Who is writing Ciaz off? Where in my post did you see that? I clearly mentioned it will dethrone Verna from second position if priced Reasonably. How is that writing it off? In fact i clearly mentioned if Petrol variant is priced good i may buy it for my father. Now why will i write off a car and buy it as well
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Thats what my point was, I was replying to the other quote.
Not at all. I am glad Maruti is taking such steps and i clearly mentioned this competition in C segment will only be good to us buyers.
Yes agree, competition will help and offcourse buyers will have options to choose from.
Buddy which Maruti car you are mentioning is rattle free? I owned an esteem for 5 years. It rattled like crazy. My best friend has a swift which i have driven extensively. Its a rattle king. Another friend has an Alto. Same rattling story. In fact with Maruti this is my biggest complaint that it rattles so much and i sincerely hope Ciaz changes that perception.
My family (including relatives) owns WagonR, Swift, Ertiga, SX4, 3rd Gen Honda City, Nissan Sunny to name a few, and out of which I felt WagonR was the least rattle free and easy to maintain and so was SX4. I never visted service station except for regular servicing but was not the same case with other cars. On Indian roads, even the german cars would rattle. But then this differs from owner to owner , thus i leave it to them to decide.
Biggest selling point for Maruti is the small cars didn't have any direct competition. Most reliable makers like Honda, Toyota, Hyundai were not serious about small cars. This will change in future.
Sorry, I don't agree here. Maruti didn't have competition in 90's, but today we have small cars from almost all manufaturers in India. Specially in last 5 years, we have seen many new entries in small car segment but baring Hyundai, nobody could compete with Maruti cars. Even the mighty Toyota (Liva) could not challenge. Maruti has almost 45% of the market share out of the 80% share, as they are not in SUV segment which has close to 20% share. This is commandable, and we should give due credit where it belongs!
Not all products from Maruti are successful (A-Star, Estilo, Baleno, Vitara to name a few), but looks like they learn fast from the mistakes. And they have good plans for
future as well.
People do buy Maruti cars thinking they will be cheap to own and thats a fact. Otherwise Sx4 would have been a top seller instead of City when Sx4 had more features and undercut City in price point.
Agree, my point was the same. Maruti cars are easy to maintain that means cheaper parts. SX4 was a no match for 3rd gen Honda City and neither was a match for Verna, thus failed.
Lol. That is a rubbish comparison. How can you do any comparison between a finished product and a product which has only provided spy shots with bits and pieces of information which we can't even know is true or not. Gaadiwaadi.com is only trying to grab eyeballs with such gimmicks. Let's keep the true comparison to the day Ciaz is officialy launched as its not fair to both cars right now.
Yes, lets wait & watch.
Its confirmed Ciaz is not coming with 1.6MJD. its coming with 1.3 and trust me that will be a major factor for a customer while buying it. A person spending million bucks these days at least checks how many bhp a car has. I know cos my father with his very limited knowledge of cars always checks what engine it has.
No one is labeling Ciaz as a cheap sedan. In fact i want it to succeed.
Agree. As mentioned in my earlier posts in this thread, 1.6 Ltr MJD was a key for Ciaz but if its not available, they are loosing the USP. Let us see how Ciaz is priced and how is it loaded.
Ciaz Diesel is for full time sedate drivers. This engine is going to struggle if you are pushing it hard. Well, I know you guys like the Ciaz but its just my perspective.
And so is the Earth Dreams engine in City, it calls for sedate driving. But many people like the sudden surge/punch in Fiat MJD post 2000 RPM which is missing in some other engines which are tuned for lesser turbolag to allow better drivability in city.
Only the Verna can be a strong contender here with 128 BHP on tap.
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? Just because they are giving bunch of projector headlamps and asthetic looks, I am not gonna fall for it. Ciaz Diesel is for full time sedate drivers. This engine is going to struggle if you are pushing it hard. Well, I know you guys like the Ciaz but its just my perspective.
? Looks good. After the comparison between the 0-100 times of Ciaz and City, I think it might attract some enthusiasts. Having a car with the same engine (but lower displacement, 1.0 l),I can say it works really well. But GM has contributed, so the Beat TCDi XSDE performs well. And the 1.3 l MJD is also available in Chevrolet Sail and UV-A, Swift, Dzire, the Punto and Linea itself so, a buyer only there for the engine would look at the Punto and such, it's cheaper too. Fingers crossed...![[:)]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Smile.gif "Smile [:)]")
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