Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues & Solutions


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Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Aditya,

Defoggers only work to remove fogging if it isint instantaneous reformed. Whats happening is you are setting the aircon so cool that the glass surface on the outside is below ambient dew point. Defogger will try to raise this using hot air on the inside but if the glass is too cold, fog will reform immediately. to prevent this, raise your cabin temperature and use the mist system to spray water onto the windscreen. The bottle water is warmer from engine heat and will immediately heat the glass while the wiper clears the liquid

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ameyam said:
aditya,

defoggers only work to remove fogging if it isint instantaneous reformed. Whats happening is you are setting the aircon so cool that the glass surface on the outside is below ambient dew point. Defogger will try to raise this using hot air on the inside but if the glass is too cold, fog will reform immediately. To prevent this, raise your cabin temperature and use the mist system to spray water onto the windscreen. The bottle water is warmer from engine heat and will immediately heat the glass while the wiper clears the liquid

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thanks ameyam

i will increase the cabin temperature and see if the front defogger works. When i used the mist system, the fog condensed on the area water was sprayed from the mist system.so practically nothing helped. I try as advised and keep up the temperature but that would make the cabin ambient temperature hot i believe. Is there any alternative to that.

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Fog will happen on inside if your aircon is not working & windows are up in rain. Fog will happen on outside if the cabin temperature is lower than ambient dew point. In your case its the latter. Now the defogger in the front does not have a heater for the glass like in back. It works by blowing hot air along tge glass. So it will heat the cabin anyway as long as it works im that mode. The only way to control fog is to avoid it by keeping a higher cabin temperature in the rains to begin with

With spray & wipers, your fog should clear immediately if its on outsidr. But at first it will just spread. The reason for this is the road much that gets mixed in. You should persist with spray a bit longer. Adding soap (windshield wiper fluid packets) to the wiper bottle will aid the clearing because soap breaks up surface tension of water droplets

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Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Swift and Dzire has brake issues, ie, lower variants have smaller brake boosters with only Z variants having bigger and better boosters.
Has Maruti Suzuki applied the same logic to Ciaz?
Hope they have not as I have a Ciaz Vxi+.
I did not feel anything wrong with the brakes on Ciaz till now.
But do they have to meddle even with the brakes on lower variants to cut costs?[frustration]
 
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Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Actually, the Swift and dzire don't have different boosters in the Z trims. AFAIK, the issue is with smaller rims in the L and Z trims. Smaller rims = smaller discs = lesser friction area. To compensate, higher braking pressure is required. But the boosters are the same as the Z trim, leading to reduction in braking effect. To add to this, lack of a brake assist (gain).
Not sure of the Ciaz though. Owners can confirm this


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ameyam said:
Actually, the Swift and dzire don't have different boosters in the Z trims. AFAIK, the issue is with smaller rims in the L and Z trims. Smaller rims = smaller discs = lesser friction area. To compensate, higher braking pressure is required. But the boosters are the same as the Z trim, leading to reduction in braking effect. To add to this, lack of a brake assist (gain).
Not sure of the Ciaz though. Owners can confirm this


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Lower variants in Ciaz also have 15" rims as compared to 16 inchers on higher variant.
The brake discs remain the same in all variants.
But I dont know if there is a difference in braking efficiency due to different wheel sizes in Ciaz.
 
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Carma said:
Lower variants in Ciaz also have 15" rims as compared to 16 inchers on higher variant.
The brake discs remain the same in all variants.
But I dont know if there is a difference in braking efficiency due to different wheel sizes in Ciaz.
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It is called proportionate valve, it distributes brake fluid appropriately to all wheels, like front wheels, back wheels via right and left channels, it will have right and left spring loaded valves to take care of left and right channels of the brake fluid. The spring force is prefixed for each channel also for front and back wheels, each wheel spring force and each channel spring force determined at the time of car design any slight change or design failure leads to tire skidding or locking upon braking because one are more tires get more or less braking force.. But in case of ABS braking models the brake force depend on the wheel speed sensors, so you get accurate braking in ABS models.

If anyone feels braking effect is inadequate after trying all other trouble shooting, changing proportionate valve will definitely helps because over the time spring loaded valves in the proportionate valve will weaken and braking is not adequate and also it loses is calibration to distribute brake fluid as per the design, so the tires which got more force may skid or lock upon braking.

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Carma said:
Im unable to close the boot of my Ciaz at the first attempt. It takes 2 or 3 attempts, that too with extra force. Any body else facing the same issue, If so any solution ?
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Ciaz boot closing issue resolved now after first service. I had reported this to SA. Dont know what they did, but now it closes on the first attempt.[clap]
 
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Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Another query for fellow CIAZ ians,
I have seen a rectangular portion on the drivers side of front bumper. What is it? Is it detachable?
Attaching image for reference (the encircled portion). image credit: motoroids and teambhp
 

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