Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues & Solutions

[Adityagoel]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

@VISHNUCARCRAZY,

I asked the same questions at almost all Maruti Dealerships and the reply was standard:

Bosch infotainment only supported/ Maruti propheses Bosch in Ciaz zdi+ and above models.

Bosch cannot be installed in vdi+ and below models

Kindly upgrade to zdi+ if you want infotainment.

Any external touchscreen will void vehicle warranty.

MGA does not have any touchscreen options for Ciaz .

 

[VISHNUCARCRAZY]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Why it can't be installed in vdi and below models- whether the panel doesn't suit or?

You can go for legal action ,if you are ready to do ?
I would like Mr.Akash sir to intervene and say his thought for same.

 

[Adityagoel]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

No reason mentioned for why it cannot be. Or rather the only statement made in official capacity was "sir this is what msil is offering at the moment"..

It all seems a way of making the customer go as per the whims and fancies of msil and associate dealers.

What legal action are you referring to ?/ kindly elaborate. And mr. Akash kindly opine.

 

[Carma]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Im unable to close the boot of my Ciaz at the first attempt. It takes 2 or 3 attempts, that too with extra force. Any body else facing the same issue, If so any solution ?

 

[chevy90]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Team,

Have a ZDI+ variant but as you all know the light throw is not at all good both High and Low beam, I did a lot of research wrt (Philips XTreme,Diamond,Crystal bulbs and Osram NB) going through online few say Philips are better than Osram and vice versa. Thought of going for HID but my technician said during rainy season chances of vapour formation is high...
PLease suggest me what best can be done...
1. Upgrading present Halogen (H7) for Philips XTreme,Diamond,Crystal or Osram NB
2. Going for HID.
3. H7 100W bulb with relay mods
4. Upgrading Fog lights H8 (LED/HID/Philips Osram)

 

[Viru]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Team,

Have a ZDI+ variant but as you all know the light throw is not at all good both High and Low beam, I did a lot of research wrt (Philips XTreme,Diamond,Crystal bulbs and Osram NB) going through online few say Philips are better than Osram and vice versa. Thought of going for HID but my technician said during rainy season chances of vapour formation is high...
PLease suggest me what best can be done...
1. Upgrading present Halogen (H7) for Philips XTreme,Diamond,Crystal or Osram NB
2. Going for HID.
3. H7 100W bulb with relay mods
4. Upgrading Fog lights H8 (LED/HID/Philips Osram)

I think a good first step would be to upgrade the bulbs themselves as the stock bulbs are often terrible, particularly the light temperature - which can make road markings hard to see. This has made a considerable difference for me in the past, without having to hack up my vehicle's electrical system for an HID install or relay kit. Finally, the switch in bulbs would be less noticeable with the Fog lights.

 

[Carma]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Dear Friends,
Could anyone tell me what engine oil is filled in the factory in a new petrol ciaz?
I think it is mineral, but need clarity on the specification.
MS doesnt recommend changing oil at 1000 kms. But am planning to change it along with oil filter.
Advice welcome.
Thanks in advance.

 

[ameyam]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Dear Friends,
Could anyone tell me what engine oil is filled in the factory in a new petrol ciaz?
I think it is mineral, but need clarity on the specification.
MS doesnt recommend changing oil at 1000 kms. But am planning to change it along with oil filter.
Advice welcome.
Thanks in advance.

You don't need to change it at 1000. Check the oil yourself when its cold and it will be oil coloured and not black

Ameyam

 

[Suryaputhra]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Dear Friends,
Could anyone tell me what engine oil is filled in the factory in a new petrol ciaz?
I think it is mineral, but need clarity on the specification.
MS doesnt recommend changing oil at 1000 kms. But am planning to change it along with oil filter.
Advice welcome.
Thanks in advance.

Hi, Factory filled engine oil in Ciaz petrol is 0W20, You can go for Shell 0W20 fully synthetic oil. It is advisable to change engine oil at 1000km even not suggested in user manual. You can visit MGP online website and check nearest MGP distributor for maruti genuine spares. You can buy Shell 0W20 fully synthetic oil and filter there.

http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...angria-red-ownership-review-4.html#post499792

-suryaputhra

 

[Viru]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Dear Friends,
Could anyone tell me what engine oil is filled in the factory in a new petrol ciaz?
I think it is mineral, but need clarity on the specification.
MS doesnt recommend changing oil at 1000 kms. But am planning to change it along with oil filter.
Advice welcome.
Thanks in advance.

There's definitely no reason to switch out your oil and/or filter at 1000 km.

There used to be some substance to this claim when vehicles produced needed a 'hard break-in' period, during which small filings of metal would be released as engine components wore down to operating tolerances. However, as I've mentioned in other places on this forum, modern manufacturing tolerances render the 'hard break-in' and 1000 km oil change procedures redundant. It would be better for your vehicle to avoid unnecessary fluid changes.

Regardless, if you want to be on the safer side, you can get the oil and filter changed at 5000 km. I'd recommend a good synthetic, while we're at it.

 

[Carma]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Thanks ameyam, suryaputhra and viru for your valuable inputs.
I am in a lot of confusion regarding changing the oil at 1k first service.
The Service advisor at workshop has strongly objected saying there is no need to change.
He told that Ciaz petrol comes filled with mineral oil from the factory.
However after going through the running in procedure on TAI and other fora, I feel if the original oil is mineral , how can it last for 10K kms or 1 year till the next oil change?
Some fora also advise that at 1K or 5K synthetic oil should not be used as it will prolong the break in period?
This is my third car and for the other 2 cars we have changed oil during first service.

 

[Viru]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Thanks ameyam, suryaputhra and viru for your valuable inputs.
I am in a lot of confusion regarding changing the oil at 1k first service.
The Service advisor at workshop has strongly objected saying there is no need to change.
He told that Ciaz petrol comes filled with mineral oil from the factory.
However after going through the running in procedure on TAI and other fora, I feel if the original oil is mineral , how can it last for 10K kms or 1 year till the next oil change?
Some fora also advise that at 1K or 5K synthetic oil should not be used as it will prolong the break in period?
This is my third car and for the other 2 cars we have changed oil during first service.

I am with your service advisor on this one. Think about it this way: normally he would want to make as much money from servicing as possible, so if he's advising you to avoid it, there must be some reason. Look for that reason in my previous post, or do some research to corroborate my claims.

It's rather normal because of the above reasons, along with modern engines running cleaner and hence contaminating the oil less - causing it to last longer.

That last one is also a misconception stemming from the archaic 'hard break-in' practice.

Often, technology forces us to challenge what experience has taught us.

 

[Carma]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Yes viru. I think i'll follow your advice and change oil at 5k only.
Modern lubricants combined with advanced machining technology has made engines and associated parts very tolerant to wear and tear.
Changing fluids unnecessarily although harmless, may be an overkill.
However ciaz manual insists that there is a running in period of 960 kms.
The manual says :
" The future performance and reliability of the engine depends on the care and restraint exercised during its early life. It is especially important to observe the following precautions during the initial 960 km (600 miles) of vehicle operation.
• After starting, do not race the engine. Warm it up gradually.
• Avoid prolonged vehicle operation at a constant speed. Moving parts will break in better if you vary your speed.
• Start off from a stop slowly. Avoid full throttle starts.
• Avoid hard braking, especially during the first 320 km (200 miles) of driving.
• Do not drive slowly with the transaxle in a high gear.
• Drive the vehicle at moderate engine speeds.
• Do not tow a trailer during the first 960 km (600 miles) of vehicle operation."

 

[Viru]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

I wasn't saying the break-in (or running-in) period no longer exists, but that the 'hard break-in' - a specific type of running in which involves deliberately stressing certain engine components to wear them down - is obsolete. Best follow manufacturer guidelines.

 

[Adityagoel]

Re: Maruti Suzuki Ciaz: Technical Issues and Solutions

Hello folks

recently bought ciaz vdi+ variant. I am facing an issue with the defogger system especially in context to the front windscreen. Inspite of switching on the front defogger , the front windscreen accumulates dense misty hue on the exterior surface (the interior surface is fine with no condensation vapours at all) making the visibilty almost nil within few minutes. And using wipers does help initially for 2-3 wipes but later it also worsens the view making visibility poorer altogether. I do keep windows slightly open with door visors and maintain ac fan speed to 2-3 points. But to no avail.
Kindly opine.

Thanks

aditya