Maruti Suzuki Baleno Hatchback: Technical Issues & Solutions

[Suryaputhra]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

Akash,

guess you are not updated with the history of my Baleno. I received it on 12-12-15 and after a numer of problems, tha car has been with me from 19-12-15. I think I filled in air to 29psi on 19th and then checked it on 22 or 23rd and it was 31psi or so. Dropped it down to 29psi. Again checked on 26 or so and it was 31 psi, so dropped it down to 29. Then on 30th I did a 350km round trip. While starting, I checked and it was 31 psi. Knowing backseat ride is stiff in a new car, I dropped to 28psi that time and bay the time I drove 50km it was 33~34psi. Then again dropped it down to 29psi but ride was still bumpy. It was again 31psi on 30th and then again 31 psi on the 31st. Got fed up and put in nitrogen on 31st at 29psi in a warm car. Except the 33psi reading on the long trip, all the other readings were at the same pump.
On 6th, at 1st service, I had told the ASC to check why the rear was so bumpy. The ASC called to tell me the pressure was actually 23-24psi and they had checked on two separate gauges. He put in 29psi nitrogen but when I checked on 8th evening and again today in cold condition, it was 23psi.

Now, tyre pressures apart, I really want to sort out the stiff rear ride issue and I have noticed that the car rides softer when cold and then get stiffer. Its especially stiff on long runs. I suspect the tyres, hence the uestion
In any case, air filled at 29 psi shouldnt go up by 4 psi on high speed runs and even nitrogen pressure shouldnt drop by 4 psi when driving within the city. Hence want to know what happening

Ameyam

If you don't mind may I know what type of gauge you are using, after reading your three posts regarding tyre pressure I believe in two points one is your gauge and the other point is method of checking the pressure. Digital pressure gauge will not seal properly and some air will escape and shows alwasy 3 psi difference, even with out air escape also they shows different tyre pressures every time you check. you need to seal the gauge perfectly, this can be achieved by manual gauge "Accurate" brand which is usually used by professionals.

 

[Akash1886]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

Akash,

guess you are not updated with the history of my Baleno. I think I filled in air to 29psi on 19th and then checked it on 22 or 23rd and it was 31psi or so. Dropped it down to 29psi. Again checked on 26 or so and it was 31 psi, so dropped it down to 29. Then on 30th I did a 350km round trip. While starting, I checked and it was 31 psi. Knowing backseat ride is stiff in a new car, I dropped to 28psi that time and bay the time I drove 50km it was 33~34psi. Then again dropped it down to 29psi but ride was still bumpy. It was again 31psi on 30th and then again 31 psi on the 31st.

I feel the air-filling machine could be faulty or another reason could be that the normal air expands more so it could also lead to rise in Tyre Pressure.

Got fed up and put in nitrogen on 31st at 29psi in a warm car.
On 6th, at 1st service, I had told the ASC to check why the rear was so bumpy. The ASC called to tell me the pressure was actually 23-24psi and they had checked on two separate gauges. He put in 29psi nitrogen but when I checked on 8th evening and again today in cold condition, it was 23psi.

Did they actually fill in Nitrogen only? I doubt!! My Esteem has Apollo Amazer Tyre(s) and since past 4 years I have been using Nitrogen in them and never the Psi went below 2-3 points after filling Nitrogen whenever I had checked after 2-3 months.

Now, tyre pressures apart, I really want to sort out the stiff rear ride issue and I have noticed that the car rides softer when cold and then get stiffer. Its especially stiff on long runs. I suspect the tyres, hence the uestion

I think more than Tyre(s) get the suspension set up of the rear checked as well.

In any case, air filled at 29 psi shouldnt go up by 4 psi on high speed runs and even nitrogen pressure shouldnt drop by 4 psi when driving within the city. Hence want to know what happening

I might be proved wrong here but honestly I feel, the ASC did not use Nitrogen in your car's Tyre(s)

PS: Confirm the cause at your end, if still you are unsatisfied, I'll cross check with my uncle's ASC and NEXA here.

Regards

Akash

 

[ameyam]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

I feel the air-filling machine could be faulty or another reason could be that the normal air expands more so it could also lead to rise in Tyre Pressure.

Did they actually fill in Nitrogen only? I doubt!! My Esteem has Apollo Amazer Tyre(s) and since past 4 years I have been using Nitrogen in them and never the Psi went below 2-3 points after filling Nitrogen whenever I had checked after 2-3 months.

I think more than Tyre(s) get the suspension set up of the rear checked as well.

I might be proved wrong here but honestly I feel, the ASC did not use Nitrogen in your car's Tyre(s)

PS: Confirm the cause at your end, if still you are unsatisfied, I'll cross check with my uncle's ASC and NEXA here.

Regards

Akash

@suryaputra,

Before i resorted to that stupid digital gauge, i was getting air put at the same pump. I observed a few psi increase there too.

Akash,

Forget about the ASC. I had put in nitrogen from a trusted tyre vendor. He had done the machine setting infront of me , so i know he had put in nitrogen. In fact his machine refused to deliver nitrogen unless 99% pure Concentration was achieved. We had intentionally put in 29psi

Regarding the suspension, i did ask at the ASC and they did check the suspension. They even checked another car & confirmed it had the same bumpy rear suspension. Since my initial problems, my car is under observation from Maruti directly, so i doubt they will fib. But since your uncle does have a dealership, do cross-check with him regarding complaints of bouncy rear ride in the Baleno. Mine is Zeta

Ameyam

 

[mr_k]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

Guys my baleno was attacked by rats
Thank god damage was minimal only a small hole on silver foil under engine bay
Can any one suggest me a good rat repellent spray for my car

 

[Suryaputhra]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

Guys my baleno was attacked by rats
Thank god damage was minimal only a small hole on silver foil under engine bay
Can any one suggest me a good rat repellent spray for my car

Check this below link,
How do you protect your car from Rats, Mice and Rodents.
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...re-zxi-2015-sangria-red-ownership-review.html

-suryaputhra

 

[chsrdeepu8]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

Check this below link,
How do you protect your car from Rats, Mice and Rodents.
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...re-zxi-2015-sangria-red-ownership-review.html

-suryaputhra

Thanks Suryaputhra.

Thats nice info. I was wondering about the rat problems from so long. For my earlier car Amaze, honda used to charge 820 for rodent repellent. Not sure if that actually works.

Recently my 11 year Alto has been attacked by rats for the first time. They made a complete mess inside. Speaker wires were cut, a hole in the carpet and poop everywhere even on the dash board also near the god idol. The car was covered with body cover and hence we did not notice for about 10days.

One question - Rats come from Underbody. How will the chilli powder effect them as we spray the powder on top of engine and surrounding areas only. As rats climb only from the tyres and then enter into the engine bay or inside of the car from underbody is there any way to put some powder underbody also ?

 

[Suryaputhra]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

Thanks Suryaputhra.

Thats nice info. I was wondering about the rat problems from so long. For my earlier car Amaze, honda used to charge 820 for rodent repellent. Not sure if that actually works.

Recently my 11 year Alto has been attacked by rats for the first time. They made a complete mess inside. Speaker wires were cut, a hole in the carpet and poop everywhere even on the dash board also near the god idol. The car was covered with body cover and hence we did not notice for about 10days.

One question - Rats come from Underbody. How will the chilli powder effect them as we spray the powder on top of engine and surrounding areas only. As rats climb only from the tyres and then enter into the engine bay or inside of the car from underbody is there any way to put some powder underbody also ?

Red chilli powder protects engine and wiring harness, if you want to protect inside of the car you can try raw tobacco leaves I will post the picture. Meanwhile you can sprinkle red chilli powder around the wheels where they climb, if we arrest that part they can not go inside of the engine or cabin.

One more method is there it is called pigeon spikes, but we need to shorten the size of spikes, in Europe countries people got good success with them protecting their car from rats. I will post that picture too.
-suryaputhra

 

[mr_k]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

Guys while changing direction my steering doesn't return to its original position i have to turn it back its just me or every baleno user facing this problem

 

[Suryaputhra]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

Guys while changing direction my steering doesn't return to its original position i have to turn it back its just me or every baleno user facing this problem

pls read this thread a lot baleno owners experiencing this trouble.

-suryaputhra

 

[@shri]

pls read this thread a lot baleno owners experiencing this trouble.

-suryaputhra

It doesn't come back at all ? Or does it come back half the way. With swift steering comes back easily to its original position. Can it be fixed during service ?

Finally got the update of my Ray blue zeta delivery date, the faded excitement has regenerated again. 28 Jan hopefully will receive it. Please suggest how to do the registration on my own as i think Nexa guys take 5k for doing registration . Has anyone done it by own or is it better through Nexa only. If too much hassle i wouldn't mind doing it through Nexa. Thanks

 

[mr_k]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

First servicing done at 950 KMS
Register a Complaint at mass about steering issue and bouncy ride
Average FE 18.4kmpl and mid was showing 19

 

[ameyam]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

Guys do make that complaint.

I was speaking to my mechanics and did a few things today. Firstly, I was noticing how the brightness of the headlight changes as the engine gets loaded. So you are driving along and there is a speed breaker, so you slow down. Then as you accelerate out, the headlights dim and then brighten up again. I didnt face this in any of my previous cars because I always had a relay kit installed. Went ahead and had that installed today

Secondly, I wanted white cabin and reading lights. Had them installed but they turned out to be too dim. Will replace them soon

Thirdly that horn. He removed the bumper top bolts and clips. Surprisingly, there is a dual horn- a low and a high. The low is installed next to the LHS headlight behind the bumper and the high lower, behind the air dam. I replaced with Hella horns. I dont use the horn much but whatever I drove subseuently, the horn is sufficient to make people look back. However, refitting the bumper back afterwards is an art. Firstly, a lot of screws and clips are to reinstalled. Then, the bumper slots are slightly oval, so its very easy to install the bumper crooked. I first ended up with a big gap on the LHS headlight side and the RHS bumper corner not staying level with the uarter panel. Pointed out to the fitter and he corrected it.

Then the suspension and steering. I took it to one of the reputed tyre and alloy wheel dealers I know. He did an alignment check and the first thing he asked was whether the car had been through a big pot hole or something because it was out of alignment. After correcting the same, he checked pressures and they were 29psi. He informed that the gauges that ASC uses are never caliberated, which is true in part. I agreed that my handheld gauge was not very useful but I still was having a bumpy ride. Then, he suggested to fit in these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGzIasgL9Io

These are actually inserts meant to prevent cars that tend to bottom out on rough roads and speed breakers but they also have the effect of softening up the rear bounce. I was reluctant to install something aftermarket on the suspension but he informed that it comes with a 3 year 1.5lL km guarantee (not warranty). He suggested I try it out and if it doesnt help, he will take them back. So I agreed and they do help. With my mom in the back, I was doing upto 90kmph and though the car doesnt absorb all the road throws up, it does not bounce as much as before. Though installing the inserts in the front does make the front a bit stiffer. He said to sue the product for a few days to let it settle and then check the feel. So this product is effectively in testing with me. Will report with updates in a few days. In the meantime, if anyone has any bad report of this product, let me know so I can return it immediately

Ameyam

 

[Suryaputhra]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

@Ameyam, can you post your pre and post alignment values, what values he said out of alignment. I had first hand training in USA on Paint less dent removal, alignment and balancing. I hardly believe and doubt, a big pothole can change or damage alignment on new cars, because they have separate suspension frame which is almost like chassis on frame like suvs we can call them sub chassis on frame cars. I have seen many cars which are jumped on big craters with load and found all alignment parameters are fine.

 

[ameyam]

Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!

@Ameyam, can you post your pre and post alignment values, what values he said out of alignment. I had first hand training in USA on Paint less dent removal, alignment and balancing. I hardly believe and doubt, a big pothole can change or damage alignment on new cars, because they have separate suspension frame which is almost like chassis on frame like suvs we can call them sub chassis on frame cars. I have seen many cars which are jumped on big craters with load and found all alignment parameters are fine.

Here you go

I know these guys do exaggerate. But my issue with steering centering still hasnt resolved. I forgot to mention that

Ameyam

 

[ameyam]

what bulb is this?

This bulb came from the front reading light in my Baleno. The bulb was bright but i wanted white. The bulb the shop gave me was dim. Reading somewhere, i think its a T10 bulb. Is that correct and can i use a T10 W5W led as a replacement?

Ameyam