Maruti Suzuki Baleno Hatchback: Technical Issues & Solutions


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I started the car now and it gives normal beeps now.

Thanks Ameyam!
Good. Another reason for triple beeps is if any section such as door, hatch or bonet is open when locking. My car just came back from service and kept beeping thrice. Finally noticed they hadnt closed the bonet and did. Back to single beeps

If you guys have steering issue & bouncy ride, make sure to complain at service and also in between. Thats the only way we can get a solution

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I am also getting a bouncy ride with my Baleno. Today was the first service and they said it was all normal. I am also feeling that the steering has become too light/loose after the car has returned from service. What can be the reason? I am going to report this to the ASS tomorrow and also about the hard suspension issue.
 
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Whole day at Sai Service Lower Parel & no change
Clutch release still jerky
Rear still stiff. Stiffer than whe:n i gave it
Steering left and right as before

If anything has changed, FE avg down to 11 from 14 when i gave the car & handbrake has become looser

Will ask them tomm as ti what the did with the car the whole day

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Is there any refilling of liquids or top up done at the first service? Is that free of cost as well? What else can i ask them to check n the first service? What might be their money making strategy n the first service only makin me a prey? Actualy nothing comes for free in this world,so kind off confused.
 
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Car in 1st service today


Horn is behind bumper. The ASC cant change it. They aren't willing to put in a aftermarket horn either. That's exactly opposite of what they said previously. So they are saying the horn will be as it is.


Steering drift issue pointed out. However they say that normally cars will drift to the left as the road is crowned. If after applying correction, it drifts right, that means correction is not correct. That also stupid. Its like saying our product is OK, you don't drive it in the right way. This guy says if the car drifts a little every 40M, its normal. That's so dumb. Anyway, the workshop did find some minor misalignment which he has corrected.


Issue of bouncy ride in the back was pointed out. In fact I took the SA with me and he himself informed rear ride is bouncy. Later he checked the suspension and informed all is ok. He even drove another car of the same type and informed that the ride is bouncy in that also. Thats is like saying, the rear ride is like this only.
Then he dropped a bomb- said my tyre pressure was 23psi. I told him I had put in nitrogen in a warm car at 29psi. If the ride was this bouncy at 23psi, what will it be like at 29?


Finally I spoke to the Maruti territory manager and informed him of the ride as that is my main issue. He informed that if all cars are similar, there is nothing he can do. I told him that if all cars are similar, everything is to be done by him only. He said if enough complaints come in, he will pass the feedback on to management. So that means they will only solve the issue if there is a hue and cry. Ok then, lets make it.


I urge all Baleno owners to check if they have the steering and bouncy rear ride issue and inform Maruti at service. Lets make them resolve our complaints


Ameyam
Even i found bouncing at rear but after 140 kmph it's bouncing in front too!! Maybe because of weak body shell!! Guys have you satisfied with baleno or not? If not I'll cancel my booking... I'm not at all feeling safe above 100 kmph in baleno!! But it's used by mom & she only uses for city if she wants to go long distances she'll take our xuv or cruze(chauffy will drive) & I'm worried about engine guard too.
 
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Baleno bounces coz of certain reasons...as per me
1...lighter body weight
2...stiff suspension
3...larger alloys
4...ground clearance
Also,there should have been a bit more under thigh cushioning or support at the rear to compensate the bumpy ride experience.
 
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Baleno bounces coz of certain reasons...as per me
1...lighter body weight
2...stiff suspension
3...larger alloys
4...ground clearance
Also,there should have been a bit more under thigh cushioning or support at the rear to compensate the bumpy ride experience.
I think the Baleno owners are really trying out the entire performance regime for this car in their relatively short ownership tenure, and some of the inherent design issues are now surfacing. The above 4 seem to be the right aspects. Wish Maruti had not indulged in the the light body weight craze in an attempt to squeeze out that extra kmpl. I am pretty sure that a gen-1 Swift with smaller footprint and heavier body weight is more accomplished dynamically than the new Baleno.
 
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Even i found bouncing at rear but after 140 kmph it's bouncing in front too!! Maybe because of weak body shell!! Guys have you satisfied with baleno or not? If not I'll cancel my booking... I'm not at all feeling safe above 100 kmph in baleno!! But it's used by mom & she only uses for city if she wants to go long distances she'll take our xuv or cruze(chauffy will drive) & I'm worried about engine guard too.
Im 80% satisfied with baleno
Rest 20% are stiff suspension bouncy ride and lifeless steering at slow speed even Swift doesn't have engine guard
Drove at 100~110kmph car was rock solid and glides over "small" potholes didn't go beyond 110 because of road condition
 
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Im 80% satisfied with baleno
Rest 20% are stiff suspension bouncy ride and lifeless steering at slow speed even Swift doesn't have engine guard
Drove at 100~110kmph car was rock solid and glides over "small" potholes didn't go beyond 110 because of road condition
There is some slop there. For most people, the correction through the steering wheel happens by reflex. If I ever made this correction in the Swift, I didn't notice it because I never had any issues with that car and wasn't looking for any. With the Baleno its different because I was looking for issues. For the record, the car was very stable even upto 130 and I didn't have any stability issues, just a gentle drift to one side or other

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Baleno bounces coz of certain reasons...as per me
1...lighter body weight
2...stiff suspension
3...larger alloys
4...ground clearance
Also,there should have been a bit more under thigh cushioning or support at the rear to compensate the bumpy ride experience.


I think the Baleno owners are really trying out the entire performance regime for this car in their relatively short ownership tenure, and some of the inherent design issues are now surfacing. The above 4 seem to be the right aspects. Wish Maruti had not indulged in the the light body weight craze in an attempt to squeeze out that extra kmpl. I am pretty sure that a gen-1 Swift with smaller footprint and heavier body weight is more accomplished dynamically than the new Baleno.
Thing is, these assets are from the factory, not aftermarket. So Maruti should have fixed them before sale or should acknowledge and fix the issues now. Realistically, nothing can be done about the light weight but everything else can be addressed. However, to fix a problem, they must first acknowledge it. Thats where Maruti is not coming through

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Guys, i have a sneaky feeling the rough ride issue is due to the tyres. Remember i used to put in 29 psi & it would be 31psi to 33psi the next time i checked? Well, yesterday i checked havung put un 28psi nitrogen at the ASC the previous day & it showed 23~24psi when cold. Will record cold & hot pressures over the neft couple if days & infirm

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Guys, i have a sneaky feeling the rough ride issue is due to the tyres. Remember i used to put in 29 psi & it would be 31psi to 33psi the next time i checked? Well, yesterday i checked havung put un 28psi nitrogen at the ASC the previous day & it showed 23~24psi when cold. Will record cold & hot pressures over the neft couple if days & infirm

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Your sneaky feeling is right. The first thing i did when i got the car was fill up gasoline and reduce the air pressure from 48! to 31. Come on Maruti...Nexa...that's an accident waiting to happen. At delivery, the air pressure must be at company presribed levels.
The second thing i did was change 4 tyres from 185 section MRF to 195 Pirelli rubber for Rs.12000 on exchange. Well worth it, though the trade-off was a few negligible millimetre's in reduced height.
 
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There is something about the pollo Alnac tyres. Yesterday evening before leaving office, I measured the pressure with my pressure gauge and it was showing 24-23 psi. Today also in cold state, it was showing same reading. But the ASC is sure they had put in 29psi. And some days back, after putting in 29psi, when I went drove some 50km, it was 35psi. Whats with the huge variations in hot and cold pressures??

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There is something about the pollo Alnac tyres. Yesterday evening before leaving office, I measured the pressure with my pressure gauge and it was showing 24-23 psi. Today also in cold state, it was showing same reading. But the ASC is sure they had put in 29psi. And some days back, after putting in 29psi, when I went drove some 50km, it was 35psi. Whats with the huge variations in hot and cold pressures??

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^^sirji that's something unheard of. I guess you need to get your tires properly checked (especially the tyre-rim contact points). Change in pressure frequently happens but the variation is a bit too high.
I have driven the cars with Apollo Alnac but not observed any such issue. In fact I have done a proper night trip at elevated speeds covering more than 550 kms in a Swift ZDi but air pressure was fine even at the end when I refilled the fuel.
I would suggest you to go to some reputed tyre shop or mechanic. Get the tyres removed, rim cleaned and reinstalled. After than fill the air from and check it with a properly calibrated gauge. Drive 3-4 days and go back to same place and get the air checked with the same gauge with which you got checked during first exercise.
 

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There is something about the pollo Alnac tyres. Yesterday evening before leaving office, I measured the pressure with my pressure gauge and it was showing 24-23 psi. Today also in cold state, it was showing same reading. But the ASC is sure they had put in 29psi. And some days back, after putting in 29psi, when I went drove some 50km, it was 35psi. Whats with the huge variations in hot and cold pressures??
Ameya, to be honest there is no rocket science involved here buddy. Firstly, do you use normal air or Nitrogen? In case you are using normal air then it makes the Tyre hot when the car is driven and probably that would be the actual cause of sudden/huge rise in Tyre's air pressure. In case of Nitrogen, the tyre(s) remain cool and the air pressure remains constant for longer period of time say for 1-2 months after which you need to top up to just 2-3 Psi per Tyre where as normal air reduces the Psi drastically in every 15-20 days. In normal air, tyre wear tear is higher than nitrogen and a benefit of nitrogen being that your car will have less number of punctures. My Honda CITY had 2 punctures in 4.5 Years. So, the Tyre brand is not bad rather the air you are getting filled is not upto the mark and try to use Nitrogen as far as possible.

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Ameya, to be honest there is no rocket science involved here buddy. Firstly, do you use normal air or Nitrogen? In case you are using normal air then it makes the Tyre hot when the car is driven and probably that would be the actual cause of sudden/huge rise in Tyre's air pressure. In case of Nitrogen, the tyre(s) remain cool and the air pressure remains constant for longer period of time say for 1-2 months after which you need to top up to just 2-3 Psi per Tyre where as normal air reduces the Psi drastically in every 15-20 days. In normal air, tyre wear tear is higher than nitrogen and a benefit of nitrogen being that your car will have less number of punctures. My Honda CITY had 2 punctures in 4.5 Years. So, the Tyre brand is not bad rather the air you are getting filled is not upto the mark and try to use Nitrogen as far as possible.

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Akash,

guess you are not updated with the history of my Baleno. I received it on 12-12-15 and after a numer of problems, tha car has been with me from 19-12-15. I think I filled in air to 29psi on 19th and then checked it on 22 or 23rd and it was 31psi or so. Dropped it down to 29psi. Again checked on 26 or so and it was 31 psi, so dropped it down to 29. Then on 30th I did a 350km round trip. While starting, I checked and it was 31 psi. Knowing backseat ride is stiff in a new car, I dropped to 28psi that time and bay the time I drove 50km it was 33~34psi. Then again dropped it down to 29psi but ride was still bumpy. It was again 31psi on 30th and then again 31 psi on the 31st. Got fed up and put in nitrogen on 31st at 29psi in a warm car. Except the 33psi reading on the long trip, all the other readings were at the same pump.
On 6th, at 1st service, I had told the ASC to check why the rear was so bumpy. The ASC called to tell me the pressure was actually 23-24psi and they had checked on two separate gauges. He put in 29psi nitrogen but when I checked on 8th evening and again today in cold condition, it was 23psi.

Now, tyre pressures apart, I really want to sort out the stiff rear ride issue and I have noticed that the car rides softer when cold and then get stiffer. Its especially stiff on long runs. I suspect the tyres, hence the uestion
In any case, air filled at 29 psi shouldnt go up by 4 psi on high speed runs and even nitrogen pressure shouldnt drop by 4 psi when driving within the city. Hence want to know what happening

Ameyam
 
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