Maruti Suzuki Baleno Hatchback: Technical Issues & Solutions


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Hi All,

First of all, thank you Mod, for this forum and to all who are contributing to this forum which really helps novice people like me who have never been into technicalities of cars.

I had booked Baleno, premium ray blue delta variant on 10th Feb from SK wheels, Vashi.

Today I received call from RM that the car allotment is in progress however please take some accessories from us as we have sales target then only we can fasttrack the allotment and you will receive car within next 7-8 days.

I told him that I will be able to take only necessary accessories,

Q1 : Can anyone please guide about the ought to have accessories from Nexa.
Q2 : Do we receive any formal communication from Maruti for car allotment
Q3 : I had asked him for PDI while booking but have not confirmed, but my gut feel says that as there is scarcity of balenos versus booking no.s , he will refuse it. However what are minimum things that should be checked if he doesnt allow extensive PDI ?
 

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please take some accessories from us as we have sales target then only we can fasttrack the allotment and you will receive car within next 7-8 days.
Thankfully the RM was honest enough to pitch for accessories by telling the actual reason. However, allotment of car is not subject to purchase of accessories buddy.

I told him that I will be able to take only necessary accessories,

Q1 : Can anyone please guide about the ought to have accessories from Nexa.
Though a basic kit like all other MSIL cars is there which is a complementary offering by dealers. In other accessories, I would suggest a body cover and gear lock only.

Q2 : Do we receive any formal communication from Maruti for car allotment
At times yes! In my uncle's NEXA at least I have seen couple of RMs following this practice. Can't say if this a official policy or not.

Q3 : I had asked him for PDI while booking but have not confirmed, but my gut feel says that as there is scarcity of balenos versus booking no.s , he will refuse it. However what are minimum things that should be checked if he doesnt allow extensive PDI ?
Well! RM has no authority to refuse the PDI. Though a detailed PDI is ideal but still would suggest you to check exteriors, window glasses / windshields, underbody, Tyres and Interiors (Click 2-3 pics of each). Also make final payment 2 days prior to taking delivery.

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Has anyone experienced intense fogging on the windscreen, especially during rains?

I have a Baleno Delta AT and I took it out for a ride in the rains for the first time today. As the weather was cool enough, I switched off the AC and only kept the fan on. After a few minutes of driving in heavy rain, the windscreen started fogging from the inside. I thought it was normal but after a few more minutes of driving, it increased to such an extent that driving wasn't possible at all in the rain!
The fogging was from the inside and it was so intense, that I had to apply great deal of strength to wipe it off. Baleno has a front and rear defogger, but none of them helped at all!

Has anyone else experienced this problem? We had a Honda City before and it never had this problem. Please suggest some tips to alleviate this problem.
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@finical_vroom,

If you drive a car in the Mumbai rains with the windows down just a bit & without aircon, you will definitely have fogging. Further, it wont wipe off if the cloth you are using isint microfiber.
To remove the fogging, you need to run the aircon with the windscreen mode selected. This pushes air along the windscreen & removes the fog in seconds. I experienced this last time it rained a few months back. Defoggers will work only if you are not running in ambient air. All defoggers do is to heat the glass to try an raise the temperature locally above the dew point of the air. That doesnt work if the air is as saturated as it is right now

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To remove the fogging, you need to run the aircon with the windscreen mode selected. This pushes air along the windscreen & removes the fog in seconds.
Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely try this.

Defoggers will work only if you are not running in ambient air.
Sorry didn't understand the meaning of 'not running defoggers in ambient air'. Can you please tell me what's the proper way to use defoggers?
 
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Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely try this.


Sorry didn't understand the meaning of 'not running defoggers in ambient air'. Can you please tell me what's the proper way to use defoggers?
When you switched on the defogger, were you running the aircon or did you have the windows slightly down?
 
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The aircon was off and the windows were down.
Ok, understand this- what is fog? Its water condensing onto a cold surface. This happens because the glass temperature is lower than the dew point of the air around it.

What happens is that in the monsoon, the air is the car is already humid. When we sit in the car, we breathe out even more moisture. This moisture is usually cleared with air movement, so you dont see any fog on other times. But in the monsoon, we tend to raise the windows to keep water out. When it rains, the glass cools from the rain water. But the air inside of the car is close to saturation, so water starts to condense on the inside surface. The only way to clear this is to run the aircon. The aircon passes the car interior air over the cooling coil which cools & dehumidifies (meaning removes the moisture through condensation on the coil). Thus the aircon removes fogging on the inside. But you must use the windscreen mode to have this effect quickly.
Now you will have fogging on the outside. Whats happening is, the cabin is now cold & this cools the glass. But the outsind is now saturated (meaning nearly 100% humid). So the condensation occurs on the outside of the glass. Here you use the defogger. It basically heats the glass (there is a thin wire mesh in the glass) and that heats the glass above the dew point of the outside air & removes the fogging. Now remember, as long as it rains, you wont have fogging on the outside. Thats because the rain washes off the fog. But once it stops raining, fog will start to form on the outside. Then you got to use defogger or the wiper

We have a car with ACC, so we can avoid both issues. During rains, set the temperature to a higher setting. I personally even find 26~27 Deg C comfortable. Direct air on to your face and fore arms as they cool you the fastest. If you dont cool the canin too much, you wont have too much outside condensation & will save fuel also

Hope this helps

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How many owners have having the driver side mirror auto close and open not working?
I mean, mine has been hitting other cars and pedestrians (at low speeds, when crossing cars coming from the opposite side in lanes or people who are not paying attention and loitering around) quite a bit. Last week, on two occasions, I had the mirror not open up fully. It opened up to a point, then stopped and didnt go further when I opened it electrically. When I pressed the button and then released again, it went back to the fully open position. Then mid week, after it tapped into a woman in a lane, I pulled the mirror housing in while it was in fully open position just to check is all was well. To my surprise, it closed like the mirror housings on my Swift. I was able to close and then again open the housing manually and it locked into both the open and closed positions without any gear chatter or resistance. And the electrical opening and closing method still works fine. I cant open it from closed position manually but I can close it from open position by gently pulling it in manually. Wondering whether this is by design- this method can be used once the electrical mechanism stops working or lets the mirror housing close without getting damaged if it makes contact with the mirror of an oncoming car. It may be that the mechanism opening and closing the mirror housing is more of a rotating lock ratchet type rather than a gear type, if you understand what I mean

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Hello guys,
I am starting this new thread to discuss about any technical issues related to Suzuki Baleno. I am owner of Baleno Zeta Petrol and have driven 500 kms. I have 2 technical doubts with my baleno

1.Anti pinch power window for driver side. As demonstrated by Maruti, it is supposed to work if there's any obstacle. I kept my hand and windows dint stop rolling up. I touched the window and it still did not stop. Now I use force on window and then it goes down. I doubt it is the usual working of anti pinch driver window.

2 Baleno petrol doesn't get engine cover and heat insulation for exhaust outlet from engine which exposes the nearby wiring to high temperatures and I have noticed little melting of plastic covering of wiring.

Other than these 2 doubts/issues I am in love with my Baleno
Actually I am replying this
 
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How many owners have having the driver side mirror auto close and open not working?
I mean, mine has been hitting other cars and pedestrians (at low speeds, when crossing cars coming from the opposite side in lanes or people who are not paying attention and loitering around) quite a bit. Last week, on two occasions, I had the mirror not open up fully. It opened up to a point, then stopped and didnt go further when I opened it electrically. When I pressed the button and then released again, it went back to the fully open position. Then mid week, after it tapped into a woman in a lane, I pulled the mirror housing in while it was in fully open position just to check is all was well. To my surprise, it closed like the mirror housings on my Swift. I was able to close and then again open the housing manually and it locked into both the open and closed positions without any gear chatter or resistance. And the electrical opening and closing method still works fine. I cant open it from closed position manually but I can close it from open position by gently pulling it in manually. Wondering whether this is by design- this method can be used once the electrical mechanism stops working or lets the mirror housing close without getting damaged if it makes contact with the mirror of an oncoming car. It may be that the mechanism opening and closing the mirror housing is more of a rotating lock ratchet type rather than a gear type, if you understand what I mean

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Well the large spread sidemirrors actually end up hitting other cars and careless pedestrians.I have myself hit a thousand times and even got it banged 180 degrees opposite to the close position against the garage wall.What i noticed that if i press the button,the electric mechanism works inside the housing as it should but it requires some manual pressure to get it back in position.After it gets disturbed this way,at times it opens up partly and needs to get reopend using the button.Actually i think once the dynamics are disturbed in the mechanism,it is prone to erratic behaviour at times due to improper gear syncronisation.Now who would be going to the ASC for such a work unless its major.I simply tap the button twice and get happy.
 
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Actually, even if the mechanism becomes erratic, which it isint as of now, I don't mind as long as it opens and closes manually. I was surprised that I can open and close it this way and it even locks in the open and closed position as if it is a manual system. If that is really the way its designed, its just great thinking by the designer


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