Hyundai Fluidic Verna 1.6 VTVT SX (O) Coral White Ownership Review

[ashishkapur]

Verna Fluidic - 5K KM done - Any maintenance needed?

Hi Fellow TAIgers,

My Verna Fludic has done about 5200 KMs till now. I wanted to know if there is any maintenance activities which need to be performed like Oil Change, Wheel alignment, etc.

Hyundai told me that no maintenance is need till the 10K KMs but I thought I would ask for a second opinion here.

Thanks!

 

[_Ankit_]

Re: Verna Fluidic - 5K KM done - Any maintenance needed?

Hi Ashish check the manual for service intervals .Check the link
Hyundai Verna Fluidic Service and Maintenance Cost | CarDekho.com . It gives approx intervals for fluidic verna

 

[dbarma]

Hi karma,

What do you think about new verna fluidic security system? I am concerned about illegal entry, suppose a person breaks the window and opens the door. Car is still silent.

What do you thing. Lets discuss.

 

[karma0306]

Hi karma,

What do you think about new verna fluidic security system? I am concerned about illegal entry, suppose a person breaks the window and opens the door. Car is still silent.

What do you thing. Lets discuss.

I also wanted to raise a question too.!!! Unfortunately, this is what i heard from Hyundai people when i went for the speed sensing option, i was told that we cannot add any particular security feature than what they have given. For example - Blinking of lights or making a sound. Am not sure how far is it true.

Yes when you break the door, the car is silent, they are getting away basically by telling us that they have given us Immobilizer meaning one can only start the car with its own key, nowhere there is a feature where we can first protect anyone from entering the vehicle.

Next i wanted to talk about was the seatbelt, do you believe that with seat belts on, the airbags deploy in an accident. First of all it doesnt even let me know whether the seatbelt is not being put, offcourse when i remove the seatbelt during driving, it gives a small 5 sec beep. Thats about it. Next i saw a person complaing about the airbags not being deployed in an accident in fb and he has raised a voice and hyundai as usual is keeping quiet.!

Did u have any incident where they tried to break your car?

 

[soumen.sam]

Hi karma,

What do you think about new verna fluidic security system? I am concerned about illegal entry, suppose a person breaks the window and opens the door. Car is still silent.

What do you thing. Lets discuss.

I also wanted to raise a question too.!!! Unfortunately, this is what i heard from Hyundai people when i went for the speed sensing option, i was told that we cannot add any particular security feature than what they have given. For example - Blinking of lights or making a sound. Am not sure how far is it true.

Yes when you break the door, the car is silent, they are getting away basically by telling us that they have given us Immobilizer meaning one can only start the car with its own key, nowhere there is a feature where we can first protect anyone from entering the vehicle.

Next i wanted to talk about was the seatbelt, do you believe that with seat belts on, the airbags deploy in an accident. First of all it doesnt even let me know whether the seatbelt is not being put, offcourse when i remove the seatbelt during driving, it gives a small 5 sec beep. Thats about it. Next i saw a person complaing about the airbags not being deployed in an accident in fb and he has raised a voice and hyundai as usual is keeping quiet.!

Did u have any incident where they tried to break your car?

Okies, lets start discussing

About the security feature: this car has Immobilizer, not alarm type. If you’re inside the car sometime you may see a yellow key sign on the console, and that’s the Immobilizer active sign. Unfortunately there have no sound based stock alarm system fitted like few car have. BUT when I was taking the delivery the accessories manager gave me a list of accessories and there was a Genuine Hyundai Add-on security module, which would start alarm on tempering the door handle if its lock, also may be when vibrate and it has also rear gear sound added too. This was cost around 3 to 3.5k or may be less ( I don’t remember clearly ) and this wont require any wire cutting and no warranty void.

Regarding these systems believe me (except the stock Immobilizer) these all are just for show off, when things happens nothing will help. Thieves knows all these stuffs how to deactivate. Here in TAI few time back I was reading a post where a Eartiga (probably) was parked outside during night and thieves brooked glass, tempered the whole key system but in the end couldn’t take the car due to its encrypted Immobilizer. If there was a sound system, they should have cut the wire before doing this. I don’t know how safe is Hyndai’s Immobilizer system, but I heard Maruti’s is very secure in these days cars.

When I was in college, our car had a rear gear sound, when I takes the car (with friends) and don’t inform my parents I just disconnect the alarm wire which was easily spotted and a 5 sec task. So that no one can hear I’m taking the car . And when I’m back I reattached it again. So these are worthless actually. I said this because, when they installs these they just install and show you the sound, but never noticed these stuffs are easily spotted. This is why I didn’t get this in my new car. They says no wire cutting require, but they tap wires which is similar to cut it.

About the seatbelt and airbags: there have no relations between these, never in any car (I haven’t heard anything so far). The airbags deploys on a particular impacts on the sensors. Its not like you just hit a wall at 10kmph speed and your bumper broke so the airbag should deploy. And airbag malfunction is very common, even in top segment cars like Mercedes, Audi airbags fails during big accidents and passengers also dies. We see these type of events at least once in a year. So the thing is IF everything is fine this will work properly.

Seatbelt deactivate sound is just to warn you. So in terms of safety always put the seatbelt on (driver and co-driver) and never ever forget it when on freeways and less trust airbags.

 

[karma0306]

Okies, lets start discussing


About the seatbelt and airbags: there have no relations between these, never in any car (I haven’t heard anything so far). The airbags deploys on a particular impacts on the sensors. Its not like you just hit a wall at 10kmph speed and your bumper broke so the airbag should deploy. And airbag malfunction is very common, even in top segment cars like Mercedes, Audi airbags fails during big accidents and passengers also dies. We see these type of events at least once in a year. So the thing is IF everything is fine this will work properly.

Seatbelt deactivate sound is just to warn you. So in terms of safety always put the seatbelt on (driver and co-driver) and never ever forget it when on freeways and less trust airbags.

Nice one Soumen.sam.

But to what i know i do have a question, airbags deploy only when you have your seatbelt on. if am right.? Atleast thats what i was told. Because if your seatbelt is not on and you hit somewhere, basically you are free flowing and when a airbag deploys at that time, more than where you get hurt, i feel you would get more hurt(twisitng of your head and stuff - Am being too dramatic - Pardon me guys. Am sure everyone will always be fine.) because of the release of the airbag.

I had a swift Zxi before, it always used to give seatbelt warning sign if not put, i liked that. Even if you forget, theres something blinking in front of you to let you know please check and please do the needful types.

And yes, i am totally aware of the airbags deploying because for one of my friend, he had a collision with a bike once and frankly speaking nothing happenend, but the airbag deployed. Its good in one way but once an airbag is deployed, i guess the cars value depreciates like crazy IMO.

The security feature that you mentioned, cannot be added to SX(O) it seems. I did not enquire more. But if am wrong please do correct me.

 

[karma0306]

Hi karma,

What do you think about new verna fluidic security system? I am concerned about illegal entry, suppose a person breaks the window and opens the door. Car is still silent.

What do you thing. Lets discuss.

I will definitely ask Hyundai when i go for service about the security warning or sound warning that can be placed in our car.!

 

[karma0306]

Okies, lets start discussing

About the seatbelt and airbags: there have no relations between these, never in any car (I haven’t heard anything so far). The airbags deploys on a particular impacts on the sensors. Its not like you just hit a wall at 10kmph speed and your bumper broke so the airbag should deploy. And airbag malfunction is very common, even in top segment cars like Mercedes, Audi airbags fails during big accidents and passengers also dies. We see these type of events at least once in a year. So the thing is IF everything is fine this will work properly.

Seatbelt deactivate sound is just to warn you. So in terms of safety always put the seatbelt on (driver and co-driver) and never ever forget it when on freeways and less trust airbags.

Thanks Soumen.sam, i did see that airbag deploys no matter what, even if you are not wearing seatbelt. I guess i learnt a new lesson from a lesson that i thought i learnt.

 

[soumen.sam]

About the securities you can check after market, there have many products with less effort requires. But beside these you can follow these:

# (Make sure – Hope you all know that) In Verna if you lock the car the 4 light will blink. But if any door is not properly close, it will lock but wont blink. This should re-check during daylight.

# always park in a place where you can easily spot the car. Suppose you’re going to a restaurant, check the environment from where you can locate the car, at least half of its ok.

# (I do follow this) Always try to park in a free area, little away from other cars. When I park I park from another car this way, there will have much more gaps, BUT no other car could park between, in a parking areas. The reason try to reduce blind spots, thieves takes this advantages. Better to park in a free spots where there have no other cars except yours. Even other people can notice if anyone tempering with the car.

# This one is interesting, but I couldn't follow this so far actually. I heard this from a knowledgeable person. When you’re parking at a unknown place try to park in front of a shop, road side hawker and after parking purchase something from them, may be cigarette or any stuff. The motto is the shopkeeper should noticed you, you can give him a smile and after a hi hello you can also just inform him that’s your car and you will be back soon.

 

[soumen.sam]

Nice one Soumen.sam.

But to what i know i do have a question, airbags deploy only when you have your seatbelt on. if am right.? Atleast thats what i was told. Because if your seatbelt is not on and you hit somewhere, basically you are free flowing and when a airbag deploys at that time, more than where you get hurt, i feel you would get more hurt(twisitng of your head and stuff - Am being too dramatic - Pardon me guys. Am sure everyone will always be fine.) because of the release of the airbag.

Yes it could be, I could be wrong. I didn’t see anything like this in manual (if seatbelt deactivate the airbag will not work) neither I heard about that.

 

[Myth]

About the securities you can check after market, there have many products with less effort requires. But beside these you can follow these:

# (Make sure – Hope you all know that) In Verna if you lock the car the 4 light will blink. But if any door is not properly close, it will lock but wont blink. This should re-check during daylight.

# always park in a place where you can easily spot the car. Suppose you’re going to a restaurant, check the environment from where you can locate the car, at least half of its ok.

# (I do follow this) Always try to park in a free area, little away from other cars. When I park I park from another car this way, there will have much more gaps, BUT no other car could park between, in a parking areas. The reason try to reduce blind spots, thieves takes this advantages. Better to park in a free spots where there have no other cars except yours. Even other people can notice if anyone tempering with the car.

# This one is interesting, but I could follow this so far actually. I heard this from a knowledgeable person. When you’re parking at a unknown place try to park in front of a shop, road side hawker and after parking purchase something from them, may be cigarette or any stuff. The motto is the shopkeeper should noticed you, you can give him a smile and after a hi hello you can also just inform him that’s your car and you will be back soon.

Good points Soumen

 

[dbarma]

Excellent thread Karma,

We paid extra money in SX(O) just for projectors, chrome alloy, leather seats and push start; rest are just standard. I do agree that immobilizer is an important feature but what about the first line of security? If someone breaks the window and open the door, the car remains silent - IGNORED; Though such incident didn't took place with me but one of my uncle suffered; his spare tire, stereo set, speakers and some valuable docs are gone. Then I had to go to police station for FIR. His car wasn't equipped with alarm system but has central locking - Maruti suzuki Ritz; forgot which model.

So what good is our security system?? Does the glass made of shock proof material? and why on earth the speed sensing auto door lock had to be disabled in SX(O) variant? the meaning of disabled is "having a physical or mental condition that limits their movements, senses, or activities" which means there is the hardware but for some reason its not functional. Which means our car is equipped with this system but it has been disabled.

Talking about the relationship between seat belt and deployment of airbags is actually true as its been discussed in hyundai user manual. I wont be able to give the proper reference now but i remember reading it. There are pressure sensors in the potential places which has to be activated to deploy the bags and most importantly there are other conditions too. But i suppose the person in FB knows about it and had made a legitimate complaints. We should also back him up. Do you have his profile id?

Let me stop here for now. My duty is over. Am going home now. See you...

 

[nickandre]

Thanks Soumen.sam, i did see that airbag deploys no matter what, even if you are not wearing seatbelt. I guess i learnt a new lesson from a lesson that i thought i learnt.

In most cars with airbags it will not deploy if it does not detect a seat belt work. It can be more fatal to have an air bag pop right in your face at a close distance.
Unfortunately in the verna only drivers seat has a seat belt sensor but the alarm does not last more then a few seconds nor will the light blink.
Seat belt use saves lifes more then airbags do.
The sensors judge when the air bags will deploy i dont know at what speed the sensors activate in the verna but my friend in toyota told me speeds over 60-80 the sensors are activated and if it detects an impact it deploys the airbag. The bumpers can withstand impacts till 45km/h.

 

[soumen.sam]

Re: Verna Fluidic - 5K KM done - Any maintenance needed?

I too did the 1st service just a week back for my verna. And the service guys told me same. You can follow the service interval in manual.

Engine oil may not need to change so early but as its 5k km done its better to check and clean the air filter if its dirty. Then you will get good mileage. If we drive in dusty areas its better to clean the air filter more frequently than the service manual recommend.

Other things are not necessary unless any issues appeared.

 

[karma0306]

Excellent thread Karma,

We paid extra money in SX(O) just for projectors, chrome alloy, leather seats and push start; rest are just standard. I do agree that immobilizer is an important feature but what about the first line of security? If someone breaks the window and open the door, the car remains silent - IGNORED; Though such incident didn't took place with me but one of my uncle suffered; his spare tire, stereo set, speakers and some valuable docs are gone. Then I had to go to police station for FIR. His car wasn't equipped with alarm system but has central locking - Maruti suzuki Ritz; forgot which model.

So what good is our security system?? Does the glass made of shock proof material? and why on earth the speed sensing auto door lock had to be disabled in SX(O) variant? the meaning of disabled is "having a physical or mental condition that limits their movements, senses, or activities" which means there is the hardware but for some reason its not functional. Which means our car is equipped with this system but it has been disabled.

Talking about the relationship between seat belt and deployment of airbags is actually true as its been discussed in hyundai user manual. I wont be able to give the proper reference now but i remember reading it. There are pressure sensors in the potential places which has to be activated to deploy the bags and most importantly there are other conditions too. But i suppose the person in FB knows about it and had made a legitimate complaints. We should also back him up. Do you have his profile id?

Let me stop here for now. My duty is over. Am going home now. See you...

Hope your uncle did not lose anything really important.? So what happened with the case. Your uncle must have had a L or V version, because the Z version comes with full alarm system and it was pretty good, it definitely beeps if somethings wrong and personally after having verna, i felt more safer driving my swift than verna. Pardon me guys. I know i shouldnt have said this. Right from the seatbelt sign to everything, it always made me realise everything i do including locking the doors and stuff. I guess nowdays upgrades generally means degrading. Offcourse i got a powerful engine 1.2 to 1.6, but rest i am not that conformatable. And also the driving pleasure is really good and its more spacious.

Dbarma, as you said i never felt ripped off while buying a Suzuki frankly speaking. Like hyundai they dont do any regular upgrades in the same version, they wait and once and for all they change the whole system like the swift for example. Again thats the same thing i like with hyundai, constantly upgrading them with the present world, for example, the projector lamps and stuff. Its good in one way and in one way its like this company knows to make profit. I mean it.

Frankly speaking, vernas price increased by about 30k from before, what they said was this, we are giving projector headlamps. This is a big marketing scheme. At that time everyone would think, wow they are upgrading, but at the same time, look what they did, they took of the speed sensing lock, ripped the 3rd headrest, made the spare wheel a steel one. I guess the projector headlamps would cost around 30k. They have made the price difference in the total amount, but no one realises that they are actually profiting since they are ripping the common features that they have provided before. THEY ARE SMART.

Regarding the person in Fb, i do not know his name, but i always follow the Hyundai forum in fb, its called Hyundai India or something, not a regular in fb nowdays, when i came to know about the speed sensing door lock, i had mentioned it in fb too, i never got any response. And that person had put up a photo too of his car, it was him, his wife and a kid. All were wearing seatbelts and it was a head on collision and his whole front had been gone and the airbags did not deploy. That was his problem. I still dont think hyundai has answered to him.

Let me know what step you have taken towards the speed sensing lock thingy.!