The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [210+ BHP Remap]

[Iron Rock]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [4K Kms Crossed]

I like it too and would not mind importing one for Chetak (My Pajero Sport, Aug-2013, Anniversary Edition, Black done 6k kms) as well.

Further, do you find the low beam adequate? I find it absymally below standards (with the std bulbs) and the throw inadequate. This is at its highest setting.

I finds the lights average, how many cars exist in which we can say low beam is great! I suggest you put in auxiliary lamps - looks good as well.

Btw welcome to TAI - pajero owners are a rarity, any other mods you did ?

 

[Chetak]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [4K Kms Crossed]

I finds the lights average, how many cars exist in which we can say low beam is great! I suggest you put in auxiliary lamps - looks good as well.

I am initially thinking of putting Osram 4300k HIDs for the low beams and Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited for the high beam and check the results. The problem with installing auxiliary lights is getting a good bracket which ensures they do not shake on bad roads, and that is slightly difficult in India.

Btw welcome to TAI - pajero owners are a rarity, any other mods you did ?

I havent done any other modifications yet except putting some 3M mats and 3M PPF at a few places. Have a long list of things in mind though.

By the way, I was at Pune yesterday and reached B'lore at 0200hrs IST today.

 

[Sam Dinkar]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [4K Kms Crossed]

3M PPF at a few places.

Would love to know the efficacy of the paint protection film. Please post a few snaps too.

 

[Iron Rock]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [4K Kms Crossed]

I am initially thinking of putting Osram 4300k HIDs for the low beams and Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited for the high beam and check the results. The problem with installing auxiliary lights is getting a good bracket which ensures they do not shake on bad roads, and that is slightly difficult in India.


I havent done any other modifications yet except putting some 3M mats and 3M PPF at a few places. Have a long list of things in mind though.

By the way, I was at Pune yesterday and reached B'lore at 0200hrs IST today.

Yes those should be good enough or contact kinshuk arya on the forum, he is an HID DIY guy :) - I have only put DRLs and Cruise control so far. I need a nice HD display for the second row, havent found a good one yet.

Lets catch up next time you are in pune, i was anyways out travelling this time.

And yes as Sam said please post photos!

 

[kinshuk.arya]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [4K Kms Crossed]

I am initially thinking of putting Osram 4300k HIDs for the low beams and Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited for the high beam and check the results. The problem with installing auxiliary lights is getting a good bracket which ensures they do not shake on bad roads, and that is slightly difficult in India.


I havent done any other modifications yet except putting some 3M mats and 3M PPF at a few places. Have a long list of things in mind though.

By the way, I was at Pune yesterday and reached B'lore at 0200hrs IST today.

Exactly the same setup I am thinking for my Optimus. I already have 55W 4300K HID in the low beam and planning to get some osram nightbreakers for the highs.

You can mount auxiliary lights not an issue with that. The bracket's widht should be equal to or more than 3-4mm and for rubber washers with every nut and bolt. try to keep the bracket as close to the bumper or grill as possible for additional support.
I am not putting in aux lights majorly for the following reasons:
1. Havent seen them working in real life.
2. There are better things available than Aux lights. (Read LED beam lights a pair of 2*10W should be more than enough)
3. fear of getting them stolen or "policified".

 

[Chetak]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [4K Kms Crossed]

Would love to know the efficacy of the paint protection film. Please post a few snaps too.

The film, at the places where I ve put it is extremely effective in protecting against scratches and other marks. I will post a few pictures soon.
That said, it is pretty expensive to install and hence I do not recommend it being installed on bumpers and other places because the cost of painting a bumper is lesser than the cost of the film on it.

I have only put DRLs and Cruise control so far. I need a nice HD display for the second row, havent found a good one yet.

Lets catch up next time you are in pune, i was anyways out travelling this time.

Do mean you need head rest mounted monitors for the middle row passengers?

Exactly the same setup I am thinking for my Optimus. I already have 55W 4300K HID in the low beam and planning to get some osram nightbreakers for the highs.

Ok then. I guess I ll try this first and then look at additional lights. I m not a big fan of additional lights either but cannot compromise on visibility at night on highways.

I am not putting in aux lights majorly for the following reasons:
1. Havent seen them working in real life.
2. There are better things available than Aux lights. (Read LED beam lights a pair of 2*10W should be more than enough)
3. fear of getting them stolen or "policified".

Hmmm...interesting reasons and pretty valid too.

1. I have, and good lights are effective as well.
2. LEDs are good but don't they fail to focus in foggy conditions? Also, they too need to be mounted outside the OEM lights. What is your opinion?
3. Theft is a real fear and I completely agree with you on that part.

 

[kinshuk.arya]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [7K Kms Crossed]

LED aux lamps are very small. XUV has a wide cross member beam which can be used to seat the lamps and the best part is it exactly in front of the grill, so the beam will also not have any hindrance.
Check if there is something similar in the Pajero.

If you are looking at aux lamps for Fog go for 3000K HID in your fog lamps. they should be more than enough. Any kind of light above 4300K will be scattered in case of Fog.

 

[dhoom9]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [7K Kms Crossed]

Congratulations for mighty PS ownership & Big thanks for confusion thread, ultimate Test drive review & this ownership threads which had provide lots of insight to persons like me who are at present in confusion state. Probably not read about cars in last 20 years as much I am doing since Innova sold out (15 days).

After 9 years of Innova ownership, now want to change to newer SUV ( as I had 2 very serious & other 4-5 small accidents - so prefer SUV over sedan), & had taken TD of XUV500 / Pajero Sport / Rexton Rx6. No doubt functionally PS is baap of all SUVs, & is probably best off roader. Being you owing initial both, I think you are perfect person to answer my queries:-

1) I am gizmo lover & XUV500 has plenty of it - do you miss feature like auto bending headlamps / chiller in central console / BT phone controls on steering / auto lock doors & ORVM / tyretronics / voice commands
2) Do you miss security features like 6 airbags (as usually I am chauffer driven)/ ESP/HLA/HDC/Traction control ( sales person said TC is there but I can't find on brochure / PS website / many web reviews).
3) No mention of Immobiliser, but sales executive said it is there & I found in PS brochure (but not in PS Anniversary edition brochure). I think immobilizer is must as anti-theft device on modern cars.
4) Initial Turbo lag was little disappointing, but I think one can get easily adjusted to it.

 

[Iron Rock]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [7K Kms Crossed]

Congratulations for mighty PS ownership & Big thanks for confusion thread, ultimate Test drive review & this ownership threads which had provide lots of insight to persons like me who are at present in confusion state. Probably not read about cars in last 20 years as much I am doing since Innova sold out (15 days).

I know exactly what you mean, i had lost all sleep while making this decision!
thank you!

After 9 years of Innova ownership, now want to change to newer SUV ( as I had 2 very serious & other 4-5 small accidents - so prefer SUV over sedan), & had taken TD of XUV500 / Pajero Sport / Rexton Rx6. No doubt functionally PS is baap of all SUVs, & is probably best off roader. Being you owing initial both, I think you are perfect person to answer my queries:-

I am surprised to not see fortuner in your list ?
Build Quality wise Pajero is the best! Its the best sub 30L on/off roader in my books though i am a big fan of the fortuner too!

1) I am gizmo lover & XUV500 has plenty of it - do you miss feature like auto bending headlamps / chiller in central console / BT phone controls on steering / auto lock doors & ORVM / tyretronics / voice commands

I like your qustions, it shows you have done your research, but my suggestion do not put XUV and Pajero Sport in the same league, your needs should dictate whether you need features/softroader vs all out allrounder true SUV.

I bought the Pajero Sport because i already had the XUV and my need this time was fundamentally opposite to the dna of XUV. Pajero and XUV are hence like opposite poles!

The features i miss in the Pajero Sport are more the automatic wipers, auto lock - nothing else really, tyretronics would have been nice but those you can always get after market - voice commands is frankly useless. I have managed to install cruise control - so that was a must for me. I also had the MID installed, so didnt miss much.

2) Do you miss security features like 6 airbags (as usually I am chauffer driven)/ ESP/HLA/HDC/Traction control ( sales person said TC is there but I can't find on brochure / PS website / many web reviews).

Yes ESP and more airbags would have been welcome, but i believe this will come shortly in the AT version around september this year.
I dont see need of HLA, HDC - do remember Pajero is a purist vehicle, this has minimum ECU control and pure driver's vehicle. I would like to retain that character of the Pajero.

3) No mention of Immobiliser, but sales executive said it is there & I found in PS brochure (but not in PS Anniversary edition brochure). I think immobilizer is must as anti-theft device on modern cars.

Immobiliser exists as standard, additionally one can always fit gps trackers and like of it these days aftermarket - its in my to-do list.

4) Initial Turbo lag was little disappointing, but I think one can get easily adjusted to it.

True that - but you get used to it, beyond the warranty period you can always chip it

 

[dhoom9]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [7K Kms Crossed]

I am surprised to not see fortuner in your list ?
Build Quality wise Pajero is the best! Its the best sub 30L on/off roader in my books though i am a big fan of the fortuner too!

I like "macho" image, utmost reliability of Toyoto & 3rd row luxury of TF, but I don't want Innova interiors again, & more because it is costliest of XUV/Rexton Rx6/PS/TF but with bare minimum features (e.g. VSC only with AT & AT has no 4WD)

.... your needs should dictate whether you need features/softroader vs all out allrounder true SUV.

Sorry did't mentioned my needs. I am absolute onroader (mainly chauffer driven since my accidents) except few trips to my farmhouse in monsoon required 0.5/1 km patch of mild slush road where my Innova/i10/friend's Duster 110PS get trapped, so fascinated to have 4WD in my new car (till today had to walk that much to reach the farmhouse in monsoon, that is 4-5times/year).

I am most delighted with features of XUV500 AWD, but my knowledge in cars is just to open up the hood. I don't know the meaning of little rattle or kitkat noise, only know when something major happens, e.g 1) I don't know when one of the tyre has low air pressure (once on road with full A/C & audio, I heard flap-flap sound on one side of car, stopped the car, seen RHS back tyre gone haywire as puncture might had occurred some way back & car ran on flat tyre & the tyre teared of & make noise), 2) occas press break paddle but no breaking occurs, live with that & while returning to home town 200 kms stretch, gradually break stopped working, break warning light came up persistent, & last few kms to home were managed by hand brake & slow speed. Many examples but what I meant to reinstate is I can't diagnose car problem or origin of problem just with minor sound or driving pattern change. So in XUV500 I am scared that small niggle will start & if in time I had not found it, major catastrophe might occur. So everyday my heart start with XUV500 AWD & mind insists to do more study. Now as I am more here, I like to love my vehicle with all its features & niggles, enjoy all its features every day, & may be few visits to ASS for niggles is OK, but real scared if car stall on highway.

So next comes Rexton Rx6 & PS, with features in decreasing order (as I am bit gizmo fan, I think my shortcoming of car knowledge will be balanced by different sensors on the dashboard - but XUV500 dashboard is loaded with tons of sensors light, but mind says they are Chinese & hence may be not dependable).

The only problem with PS is 1) only 1 ASS/dealer in Gujarat is in Surat, that is 333Km away, 2) will Mitsubishi will be available in India/Gujarat for next 10 years.

Problem with Rx6 1) Mahindra & rest you all know that.

Don't know where to compromise?!?

Had driven Chevrolet Enjoy & Tavera, but appear taxi vehicles without much recent features like Navigation, Reverse Camera, Steering controls, Auto ORVM.
Ford endeavor, tata safari/storme appear aged vehicles.
And yes, no AT please.

So now to decide between
XUV500 AWD (pro: for its never ending feature list, cons: Mahindra, Chinese sensors) &
Rexton Rx6 MT (pro: 4L switch, Sunroof, many features although less than XUV, cons: Mahindra, long term future) &
PS Boss (Pros: legacy, super select 4WD, ruggedness etc, cons: less features of all but will watch your thread & implement all your mods to improve features list, only 1 ASS far up)

The features i miss in the Pajero Sport are more the automatic wipers, auto lock - nothing else really, tyretronics would have been nice but those you can always get after market - voice commands is frankly useless. I have managed to install cruise control - so that was a must for me. I also had the MID installed, so didnt miss much. Yes ESP and more airbags would have been welcome, but i believe this will come shortly in the AT version around september this year.

I don't like AT I am chauffer driven + can't accept decreased fuel efficiency just for AT ( I know many would not agrre, but that is my inclination) + want to enjoy 4WD at its maximum. But after watch your thread, I had asked for MID as option & sales person has agreed to do that with extra 22K expense + 10K for cruise control ( I had shown him your thread).

I dont see need of HLA, HDC

Last Diwali we went to Rajasthan & near Rana Pratap memorial at Haldi Ghati, my Innova easily climbed up the hill with passengers, but my friend's Duster could not climb but drifted back, so we kept big stones behind rear wheels & revv up the car & ultimately reached the chetak memorial at hilltop. I wonder if HLA (Hill Hold Control) would have helped to overcome the situation without manual help. But again I think 4HLc of PS or 4L of Rx6 could manage very easily.

do remember Pajero is a purist vehicle, this has minimum ECU control and pure driver's vehicle. I would like to retain that character of the Pajero

I never think that way, but I fully agree with that. I think my dislike for AT has roots in this view.

 

[Iron Rock]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [7K Kms Crossed]

I like "macho" image, utmost reliability of Toyoto & 3rd row luxury of TF, but I don't want Innova interiors again, & more because it is costliest of XUV/Rexton Rx6/PS/TF but with bare minimum features (e.g. VSC only with AT & AT has no 4WD)

I drove all of this and personally i didnt like rexton, its not in the league of T-Fort and PS is my observation. Btw Toyota has VSC in 4WD MT i beleive please cross check.

Sorry did't mentioned my needs. I am absolute onroader (mainly chauffer driven since my accidents) except few trips to my farmhouse in monsoon required 0.5/1 km patch of mild slush road where my Innova/i10/friend's Duster 110PS get trapped, so fascinated to have 4WD in my new car (till today had to walk that much to reach the farmhouse in monsoon, that is 4-5times/year).

For mild slush an AWD is enough assuming the XUV approach angle serves your purpose, but clearly XUV is onroader and very good at that. Looks like your budget is flexible all the way from XUV to PS ?

I am most delighted with features of XUV500 AWD, but my knowledge in cars is just to open up the hood. I don't know the meaning of little rattle or kitkat noise, only know when something major happens, e.g 1) I don't know when one of the tyre has low air pressure (once on road with full A/C & audio, I heard flap-flap sound on one side of car, stopped the car, seen RHS back tyre gone haywire as puncture might had occurred some way back & car ran on flat tyre & the tyre teared of & make noise), 2) occas press break paddle but no breaking occurs, live with that & while returning to home town 200 kms stretch, gradually break stopped working, break warning light came up persistent, & last few kms to home were managed by hand brake & slow speed. Many examples but what I meant to reinstate is I can't diagnose car problem or origin of problem just with minor sound or driving pattern change. So in XUV500 I am scared that small niggle will start & if in time I had not found it, major catastrophe might occur. So everyday my heart start with XUV500 AWD & mind insists to do more study. Now as I am more here, I like to love my vehicle with all its features & niggles, enjoy all its features every day, & may be few visits to ASS for niggles is OK, but real scared if car stall on highway.

A mahindra xuv would be just as reliable or unreliable as any other indian suv - yes it will need attention once a while. It cannot match the japanese in reliability but you get a lot more in what you pay - but remember its built at a price!

So next comes Rexton Rx6 & PS, with features in decreasing order (as I am bit gizmo fan, I think my shortcoming of car knowledge will be balanced by different sensors on the dashboard - but XUV500 dashboard is loaded with tons of sensors light, but mind says they are Chinese & hence may be not dependable).

I have not had any electronics failures whatsoever, chinese electronics talk is a bit overhyped! Majority of the problems have been elsewhere rather.

The only problem with PS is 1) only 1 ASS/dealer in Gujarat is in Surat, that is 333Km away, 2) will Mitsubishi will be available in India/Gujarat for next 10 years.

That is a good point and i pondered over it a lot too, the PS is supremely reliable though and hardly needs attention, in my case Pune has one of the best service centres and the HM guys pulled all plugs to help me make up my mind.

Problem with Rx6 1) Mahindra & rest you all know that.

An rX6 in my view will not age as gracefully as a Mitsu or a Toyota.

So now to decide between
XUV500 AWD (pro: for its never ending feature list, cons: Mahindra, Chinese sensors) &
Rexton Rx6 MT (pro: 4L switch, Sunroof, many features although less than XUV, cons: Mahindra, long term future) &
PS Boss (Pros: legacy, super select 4WD, ruggedness etc, cons: less features of all but will watch your thread & implement all your mods to improve features list, only 1 ASS far up)

I don't like AT I am chauffer driven + can't accept decreased fuel efficiency just for AT ( I know many would not agrre, but that is my inclination) + want to enjoy 4WD at its maximum. But after watch your thread, I had asked for MID as option & sales person has agreed to do that with extra 22K expense + 10K for cruise control ( I had shown him your thread).

What is the total deal you are getting please post breakup, i can connect you with HM as well as the mumbai dealer and may be sweeten things further,

Last Diwali we went to Rajasthan & near Rana Pratap memorial at Haldi Ghati, my Innova easily climbed up the hill with passengers, but my friend's Duster could not climb but drifted back, so we kept big stones behind rear wheels & revv up the car & ultimately reached the chetak memorial at hilltop. I wonder if HLA (Hill Hold Control) would have helped to overcome the situation without manual help. But again I think 4HLc of PS or 4L of Rx6 could manage very easily.

I never think that way, but I fully agree with that. I think my dislike for AT has roots in this view.

Forget 4wd it will climb in normal 2wd mode , have you seen the pajero sport videos that i have posted in this thread :)

 

[Iron Rock]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [7K Kms Crossed]

Second Service Report

The Red Elephant went to the second service 2 days back :- its 6 months or 10k service.

Largely a lot of inspection and oil and oil filter change, air filter cleaning.

I got most of the suspension torque checked too - had nothing to complaint or talk about. The HM guys at J Williams did a fantastic job as usual - the knowledge they display is a marked difference to the general yada yada you get! Technically these are the most adept boys i have met!

Total Cost :- 8.2k + 12.5% tax
Oil Filter - 1k
Synthetic Oil some 6 litres of so :- whopping 7.2k

Post service no change noticed, i am not a placebo effect person - the elephant still remains the elephant! Keeping fingers crossed the FE improves slightly.
Additionally i also got both shafts greased, there is a small greasing inlet provided and the grease gun just needs to be aimed there!

All the brothers in saline mode!



The synthetic gold fluid!



A minor technical bulletin for pajero sports owner to check mechanism of the stepney chain pulley mechanism - there is a possibility it can get stuck if its isnt properly installed, i had no such problems.



Old Oil filter replaced



My shock had a tinge of oil, not sure if those were from the seals, but they promptly replaced it nevertheless, i hadnt noticed anything from the ride quality perspective but nevertheless i see this as proactive management - great job by HM/Mitsu! They take a lot of flak normally but credit where due!



And here is a old working trekker they still own, what beautiful interiors :)

 

[dhoom9]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [7K Kms Crossed]

Btw Toyota has VSC in 4WD MT i beleive please cross check.:)

You are right, Sir. I should had cross checked with Toyota Fortuner site before hand.

Looks like your budget is flexible all the way from XUV to PS ?

I had always moved ahead one step with new car, i.e. Maruti 800 -> Maruti Zen -> Maruti Esteem -> Innova, so next turn was TF, so yeah, budget is flexible. My only annoyance is that features & price don't go linear (Mind understand that certain things can't be shown & go linear with price like durability, after sales service, reliability, - but you know, dil hai ki manta nahin)

What is the total deal you are getting please post breakup, i can connect you with HM as well as the mumbai dealer and may be sweeten things further,

Pajero Sport Anniversary Edition
Ex-showroom - 2394000 + Depo /charges 15000 + RTO & services 150313 + Insurance 51891 = Total 2611204 + Zero depreciation Insurance extra 18-19K
+ 1) It is possible to fit Cruise Control in Pajero Sport, But Right now part is not available and it will take sometimes to arrange the part. Cost of this part approximately 10,000Rs.
+ 2) MID will be supplied by company, But Wiring harness and other things we have to do locally. ( Cost of MID approximately 22,000 Rs.)

 

[Iron Rock]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [7K Kms Crossed]

I had always moved ahead one step with new car, i.e. Maruti 800 -> Maruti Zen -> Maruti Esteem -> Innova, so next turn was TF, so yeah, budget is flexible. My only annoyance is that features & price don't go linear (Mind understand that certain things can't be shown & go linear with price like durability, after sales service, reliability, - but you know, dil hai ki manta nahin)

Here is my concluding quote from the review thread , you might find it ringing a few bells


"We generally rate VFM factor with what we see, does it have enough features for the price, but for some vehicles its the factor that we don't necessarily see visually - the durability, the robust engineering with plenty of safety margins built within every component whether its the engine, the drive train, a bush, suspension or just a clip holding a hose in the engine bay. Its what it can do on and off road that makes it a Mitsubishi Pajero Sport!
"

Pajero Sport Anniversary Edition
Ex-showroom - 2394000 + Depo /charges 15000 + RTO & services 150313 + Insurance 51891 = Total 2611204 + Zero depreciation Insurance extra 18-19K
+ 1) It is possible to fit Cruise Control in Pajero Sport, But Right now part is not available and it will take sometimes to arrange the part. Cost of this part approximately 10,000Rs.
+ 2) MID will be supplied by company, But Wiring harness and other things we have to do locally. ( Cost of MID approximately 22,000 Rs.)

Do you want me to try something for you from bombay ?

 

[dhoom9]

Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [7K Kms Crossed]

Here is my concluding quote from the review thread , you might find it ringing a few bells

"We generally rate VFM factor with what we see, does it have enough features for the price, but for some vehicles its the factor that we don't necessarily see visually - the durability, the robust engineering with plenty of safety margins built within every component whether its the engine, the drive train, a bush, suspension or just a clip holding a hose in the engine bay. Its what it can do on and off road that makes it a Mitsubishi Pajero Sport!"

I do agree 100%. I think when your or family life is at stack, durability/reliability is much more vital than features, when you can have either one of both.

Do you want me to try something for you from bombay ?

Sure, Big thanks.