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The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [210+ BHP Remap]
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [40K Kms Crossed]
The new PS is quite some time away from what the birdie tells me. Mitsubishi's next launch in India will be petrol Outlander which be followed by the new PS.
Coming to the visibility, I am the old fashioned truck driver type and I prefer to see the corners of my bonnet while driving and am able to do it on my PS as well as the new Endy and I like it that way.
Did you manage to take a TD of the Endy? What is your opinion?
The new PS is quite some time away from what the birdie tells me. Mitsubishi's next launch in India will be petrol Outlander which be followed by the new PS.
Coming to the visibility, I am the old fashioned truck driver type and I prefer to see the corners of my bonnet while driving and am able to do it on my PS as well as the new Endy and I like it that way.
Did you manage to take a TD of the Endy? What is your opinion?
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [51K Kms Crossed]
The Mitsu crossed 50K couple of weeks back, the last 5 months have done near 12k kms on this. The odo is close to 52k now. Same old reliability as well - everything works like new, stock brake pads have so far lasted 52k which is bamboozling, looks like i have to prepone the service slightly - but plus minus a 2k kms is ok as i am on synthetic anyways. There is a new service station opening at Pune shortly - so hope to visit there, i know there will be many familiar faces anyways.
Some 10 days back had to do a splash and dash hyderabad trip , had been to Pride Mitsubishi at Hyderabad to get the AC filter and Air filter blown and cleaned - extremely impressed by Sharath and team there - they very promptly helped me deal with the Hyderabad heat. Tidy set up they have.
The AC filters had done over 10k without cleaning and inevitably were dust choked - i should have cleaned it before hand my bad - just couldnt find the time and my compressor at the farm has broken down. In fact i feel AC and air filter should be cleaned as often as possible may be every 5k kms or so - definitely helps the cars respiration.
After the clean up the AC felt much much better - on the FE front the car consistently gives me between 12.xx to 13.xx depending on my driving moods!
This time and for the first time ever(on this vehicle) have put in a diesel addictive from 3M on normal fuel from HP Coco - lets see how it gulps this tank and if i notice any difference.
The Mitsu crossed 50K couple of weeks back, the last 5 months have done near 12k kms on this. The odo is close to 52k now. Same old reliability as well - everything works like new, stock brake pads have so far lasted 52k which is bamboozling, looks like i have to prepone the service slightly - but plus minus a 2k kms is ok as i am on synthetic anyways. There is a new service station opening at Pune shortly - so hope to visit there, i know there will be many familiar faces anyways.
Some 10 days back had to do a splash and dash hyderabad trip , had been to Pride Mitsubishi at Hyderabad to get the AC filter and Air filter blown and cleaned - extremely impressed by Sharath and team there - they very promptly helped me deal with the Hyderabad heat. Tidy set up they have.
The AC filters had done over 10k without cleaning and inevitably were dust choked - i should have cleaned it before hand my bad - just couldnt find the time and my compressor at the farm has broken down. In fact i feel AC and air filter should be cleaned as often as possible may be every 5k kms or so - definitely helps the cars respiration.
After the clean up the AC felt much much better - on the FE front the car consistently gives me between 12.xx to 13.xx depending on my driving moods!
This time and for the first time ever(on this vehicle) have put in a diesel addictive from 3M on normal fuel from HP Coco - lets see how it gulps this tank and if i notice any difference.
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [51K Kms Crossed]
Iron Rock...great going. Try Liqui Moly Super Diesel (200ml per 2000km) - highly recommended by my auto buddies...apparently an ahmedabad based company is importing in barrels and re bottling in India and selling.
Iron Rock...great going. Try Liqui Moly Super Diesel (200ml per 2000km) - highly recommended by my auto buddies...apparently an ahmedabad based company is importing in barrels and re bottling in India and selling.
Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [51K Kms Crossed]
Your must have created a record of sorts for running the stock brake pads till 52k and counting.
It's this amount of dust in the filter which makes one realize the real benefits of it and overall it's money well spent in saving the air conditioner components. It is surprising why it is not offered as OE fitment and now the company has made the costs of new filter sky high.
Your must have created a record of sorts for running the stock brake pads till 52k and counting.
It's this amount of dust in the filter which makes one realize the real benefits of it and overall it's money well spent in saving the air conditioner components. It is surprising why it is not offered as OE fitment and now the company has made the costs of new filter sky high.
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [51K Kms Crossed]
Thanks will try out, did you find anything specific using this ?
I am not a very big fan of additives to be honest, i use them once in a very long while - its hard to find it locally(at pumps) + easier to just put shell or premium fuel which has some additives.
Ha ha , will submit my claim to Guinness![[lol]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Laugh.gif "Laugh [lol]")
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Yes air filter must have and if you are in a dusty environment, clean them regularly too, one can easily make out when they are clogged just by the air flow from the vents.
HM is trying its best to do suicide - its a miracle they are still running. They seemed to have mastered the art of killing dealerships and setting up new ones.
Thanks will try out, did you find anything specific using this ?
I am not a very big fan of additives to be honest, i use them once in a very long while - its hard to find it locally(at pumps) + easier to just put shell or premium fuel which has some additives.
Ha ha , will submit my claim to Guinness
!Yes air filter must have and if you are in a dusty environment, clean them regularly too, one can easily make out when they are clogged just by the air flow from the vents.
HM is trying its best to do suicide - its a miracle they are still running. They seemed to have mastered the art of killing dealerships and setting up new ones.
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [51K Kms Crossed]
Recently the Mitsu got a long pending eye surgery , I was for long, looking to improve the beams however HID kits were far too expensive(and unreliable) and even high end Osram's didnt appease me much.
Got this tip off the FB Pajero group from a gentleman called Deepak Patil (not sure if he is on TAI) - thanks - nice little find and good research sir! and since these LEDs(white) looked VFM, thought of giving them a try. So now the PS has both the low beam and high beam on LED. Simple plug and play on existing connectors - no fuss DIY just need to get the polarity right. Parking bulb is currently OEM, will be upgrading it to LED as well. Fogs(yellow) i am planning to continue as is for the time being.
The spec of the LEDs as below and it comes with a 1 year warranty (whatever that means) :-
Here is the picture of the low beam(in projectors) and high beam :-
This can be bought off aliexpress from this store :-
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/2201025?spm=2114.10010108.100005.1.xaOX78
Early impressions are high beam are very good(Diwali), low beam since those are on the same projectors the spread is similar and the intensity is better. Since i only installed a week back, i have no clue on longevity etc, given the price its well worth the experiment. I will keep the thread posted on the longevity. Also planning to get this done on the other Japanese Samurai.
A big word of caution :- Use LED high beam only when needed. These can be blinding to the other side.
Recently the Mitsu got a long pending eye surgery , I was for long, looking to improve the beams however HID kits were far too expensive(and unreliable) and even high end Osram's didnt appease me much.
Got this tip off the FB Pajero group from a gentleman called Deepak Patil (not sure if he is on TAI) - thanks - nice little find and good research sir! and since these LEDs(white) looked VFM, thought of giving them a try. So now the PS has both the low beam and high beam on LED. Simple plug and play on existing connectors - no fuss DIY just need to get the polarity right. Parking bulb is currently OEM, will be upgrading it to LED as well. Fogs(yellow) i am planning to continue as is for the time being.
The spec of the LEDs as below and it comes with a 1 year warranty (whatever that means) :-
Here is the picture of the low beam(in projectors) and high beam :-
This can be bought off aliexpress from this store :-
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/2201025?spm=2114.10010108.100005.1.xaOX78
Early impressions are high beam are very good(Diwali), low beam since those are on the same projectors the spread is similar and the intensity is better. Since i only installed a week back, i have no clue on longevity etc, given the price its well worth the experiment. I will keep the thread posted on the longevity. Also planning to get this done on the other Japanese Samurai.
A big word of caution :- Use LED high beam only when needed. These can be blinding to the other side.
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [51K Kms Crossed]
Sir these are low quality and Poor design LEDs.
Sir these are low quality and Poor design LEDs.
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [51K Kms Crossed]
"Cheap" Is one thing.
Other issues are their design & Spec. As below-
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...zuki-ciaz-zdi-dignity-brown-5.html#post524354
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...zuki-ciaz-zdi-dignity-brown-6.html#post524398
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...conversion-bulbs-cars-bikes-9.html#post519803
"Cheap" Is one thing.
Other issues are their design & Spec. As below-
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...zuki-ciaz-zdi-dignity-brown-5.html#post524354
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...zuki-ciaz-zdi-dignity-brown-6.html#post524398
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...conversion-bulbs-cars-bikes-9.html#post519803
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [51K Kms Crossed]
Today the Prices of HID are lower than ever. And The PUNCH they offer are better than any other Lighting product (Even LED) that I know so far.
Coming back to your query, I find the flaws as below-
1. You have brought a COB (Wide CHIP) style lamp.
Now car headlamps are precision devices, designed to collect and focus the light from a very small, Accurate light source (In your case, Halogen Filament) and sent across to the road. With this mod, you offered a wide chip LED to the optics, Causing a wide wash of light that is not foccused there.
This defeats 2 purposes that manufacturer of car intended-
a) NOT having light where it was NOT intended- Eg in the eyes of oncoming driver.
b) Having proper light beam at certain high risk areas to highlight hazards.
Now what you have in front of the car is, essentially, flood lights are the better to lighting your Porch and hall or bathroom. Not the road.
2. The color you choosen is 6000k, which is known to have high concentration of Blue-UV radiation- In turn harmful/ Fatiguing to the eyes and also causing more glare.
Our eyes are made to look better in 4300k Spectrum- The sunlight band! (4000k~ 4800K depending on season).
3. The way our eyes work, This upgrade looks brighter to the eye in 1st impression. But do get back to me after a drive in adverse conditions like Fog, Rain, Oncoming glare etc. Thats the practical demo of both points above.
4. Pajero has High quality projector, which is still able to generate some roughly matching beam pattern- But do not be fooled.
Projectors can make beams from hilarious light sources. That does not mean its safe 100%.
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...periments-leds-xenon-strobes-torches-etc.html
Today the Prices of HID are lower than ever. And The PUNCH they offer are better than any other Lighting product (Even LED) that I know so far.
Coming back to your query, I find the flaws as below-
1. You have brought a COB (Wide CHIP) style lamp.
Now car headlamps are precision devices, designed to collect and focus the light from a very small, Accurate light source (In your case, Halogen Filament) and sent across to the road. With this mod, you offered a wide chip LED to the optics, Causing a wide wash of light that is not foccused there.
This defeats 2 purposes that manufacturer of car intended-
a) NOT having light where it was NOT intended- Eg in the eyes of oncoming driver.
b) Having proper light beam at certain high risk areas to highlight hazards.
Now what you have in front of the car is, essentially, flood lights are the better to lighting your Porch and hall or bathroom. Not the road.
2. The color you choosen is 6000k, which is known to have high concentration of Blue-UV radiation- In turn harmful/ Fatiguing to the eyes and also causing more glare.
Our eyes are made to look better in 4300k Spectrum- The sunlight band! (4000k~ 4800K depending on season).
3. The way our eyes work, This upgrade looks brighter to the eye in 1st impression. But do get back to me after a drive in adverse conditions like Fog, Rain, Oncoming glare etc. Thats the practical demo of both points above.
4. Pajero has High quality projector, which is still able to generate some roughly matching beam pattern- But do not be fooled.
Projectors can make beams from hilarious light sources. That does not mean its safe 100%.
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...periments-leds-xenon-strobes-torches-etc.html
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [51K Kms Crossed]
^^ Nice inputs
Doesn't a HID high beam affect the oncoming user in the same way as this LED? Driver discipline is anyways needed here. Any idea on whats the price for a HID kit these days with warranty ?
I did a couple of night runs, so far my observation is low beam is ok and average, simply because its still in the same projector unit and doesnt hence improve any range, its just slightly brighter than halogen. I found the high beam phenomenal compared to the previous high beam - no comparison really.
I haven't tested on fog and rain, but i have kept my oem fog light(yellow) as is , don't intend to change it for now. will report more in different conditions as i face, cheers.
^^ Nice inputs
Doesn't a HID high beam affect the oncoming user in the same way as this LED? Driver discipline is anyways needed here. Any idea on whats the price for a HID kit these days with warranty ?
I did a couple of night runs, so far my observation is low beam is ok and average, simply because its still in the same projector unit and doesnt hence improve any range, its just slightly brighter than halogen. I found the high beam phenomenal compared to the previous high beam - no comparison really.
I haven't tested on fog and rain, but i have kept my oem fog light(yellow) as is , don't intend to change it for now. will report more in different conditions as i face, cheers.
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [51K Kms Crossed]
1. Ethics and Manners always remain, and are a different topic. Even factory 55w H4 halogen High beam does hurt. And is rude.
BTW HID is never used in Dedicated high beam and switching kills it very soon.
2. Roughly 5k. All details how to select one are here-
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...-hid-kit-technical-review-install-w-pics.html
3. Going with the same suggestion I gave to fellow Ciaz owner, These COB wide chip lamps could work in High beam. because High beam does not care about glare and is roughly the floodlight pattern. But you will still loose the distance, as eyes adjust for a wide wash of Foreground light, Leaving a dark hole at the apex point. This will trouble you, if you drive speedy at night on the 4 lanes (100+).
Thats why most advanced LED/ HID OEM setups have foreground limiters (XUV has one, on low beam). I suggest reading those 2 threads , nice discussions there.
4. Buddy you are missing out on some fun.
Install a VERY high quality 4300k (All purpose, Highway biased) or 3000k (Yellow, more suited in your case, Adverse weather biased) HID kit in OEM fogs and please come back to share your joys.![[evil]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Evil.gif "Evil [evil]")
1. Ethics and Manners always remain, and are a different topic. Even factory 55w H4 halogen High beam does hurt. And is rude.
BTW HID is never used in Dedicated high beam and switching kills it very soon.
2. Roughly 5k. All details how to select one are here-
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...-hid-kit-technical-review-install-w-pics.html
3. Going with the same suggestion I gave to fellow Ciaz owner, These COB wide chip lamps could work in High beam. because High beam does not care about glare and is roughly the floodlight pattern. But you will still loose the distance, as eyes adjust for a wide wash of Foreground light, Leaving a dark hole at the apex point. This will trouble you, if you drive speedy at night on the 4 lanes (100+).
Thats why most advanced LED/ HID OEM setups have foreground limiters (XUV has one, on low beam). I suggest reading those 2 threads , nice discussions there.
4. Buddy you are missing out on some fun.
Install a VERY high quality 4300k (All purpose, Highway biased) or 3000k (Yellow, more suited in your case, Adverse weather biased) HID kit in OEM fogs and please come back to share your joys.