Tata Motor’s Cars – The Ultimate Reliability Survey

[nairrak]

Bought an used TATA Sierra for 80K, spent about 1.25L in maintenance, dumped it off for 85K. Thats my TATA experience. A.S.S was fairly ok. Issues with the Gear box, issues with suspension, rides like a boat, lot of clattering noise inside. Mentally not prepared for another TATA

 

[Raja]

Re: Tata Motor’s Cars – The Ultimate Reliability Survey

Bought an used TATA Sierra for 80K, spent about 1.25L in maintenance, dumped it off for 85K. Thats my TATA experience. A.S.S was fairly ok. Issues with the Gear box, issues with suspension, rides like a boat, lot of clattering noise inside. Mentally not prepared for another TATA

How much Kms was the car used when you bought ? And how sure are you that the car was not abused by the previous owner ? How many owners used the car before you bought ?

 

[dhruvpandit]

I have nothing personal against Maruti, I had Maruti Zen for 6-7 months and you can go and read my ownership review to know it's fate. And as far as you talk about FIAT, I never said that I have got a premium service by TASS. I had hard time resolving one issue. That also you can go and read in my ownership review.................

Agreed 100%
All in Indians has same mentality.
It's like sheep, all goes behind the first one.
But every one has to accept it that tata has improved a lot on quality basis.

 

[swift&furious]

Ok, just to come to you point as you had meant herd mentality

What is wrong if people buy the same brand if all likes it, its only their perception and they stick on to it, i can vouch most of the punto buyers are the one's who either went to maruti showroom for a swift and probably booked it and fled later due to the wait or even before, there are many TAI'ns in the forum who said the same thing what i said about it, just because you were unable to wait and go for a car which you heart wanted first doesn't meant that the other choice u went for is a great product

Nnuf said and all who bashes TATA and maruti's do know it from their heart, they were making number's during 90's were due to less competetion, probably hindustan motors were the only one at that point of time but know in this current market if they can still lead it isn't a small thing and in a country like india, which is always fascinated over western davidoff or CK over indian designer perfumes

you can book a Toyota or a Honda in newly developed cities (i:e) there are more customers and the other brands are keen to hit on this markets for making good business and now when after all this competetion they still emerge leader

I have a car from Maruti stable and one from Toyota stable in my home this is not herd mentality but being very much practical and understand what we need out of our vehicle, i would take it that way and have never felt regret against the decission which we took and most of the times maruti services have woed me against toyota's service in most of the parameters

 

[dharmesh]

Re: Tata Motor’s Cars – The Ultimate Reliability Survey

I never said the choice I went for is a great product, And never said you followed herd's mentality. I have very good friend of mine in TAI (Gurrala), he also have Ritz and his decision was more practical thinking about his own requirement and then buying the car. Buying thing just because some one said to buy is different. And when talking about fled away, It is my money and I can buy anything. Maruti or FIAT or even Amby. But I would buy following my research not where some one pointed me. And now this does not means that you also followed Herd's mentality. You might have done your set of research and analysis before buying the car. Now tell me out of 20k odd Swift and Dzires sold every month, how many people might have even considered other options, how many have ever thought of doing research of what they need?

And this is not only true for Maruti, this true for other brands as well. Now if some one comes to me and ask me how are FIAT cars? I will say it is good. But that does not means he should follow me blindly and buy FIAT. I hope you got my point. Even today many times, I talk to my wife and tell her that next car we would is either from FIAT or Ertiga. FIAT for love and Ertiga just for practicality of the car and not because it is Maruti.

I think you took the debate very personally. I think we should stop it here as the thread is already being hijacked to Maruti debate over from TATA's reliability.

P.S : Who is the one that is bashing TATA?

 

[swift&furious]

Cool Mate, i never meant to mean anyone, it was my reply and not a quote to anyone's message, i didn't take a debate here seriously as we are all enthu's and we are unified here we might defer from others views, but never take anything personal

For the matter of fact the car in which i learnt to was a Fiat Padmini and it was 11 years back, it was the First high speed engine in india during its lauch and boy i love the grunt of that engine

 

[Gurrala74]

Hey my dear friends Swift & Dharmesh !!

Yes both of you are correct in your respective discussions, but we have already gone lot of OT here I hope which is not inline with the forum rules, so we will stick to only TATA car is good or bad and experience with them and it should be clearly not comparing with any other brand car.

Of Late I have seen in many posts, somebody calling "TATA stable" "Maruti Stable" & "Toyota Stable", is it something a brand name, I mean Stable is a noun or verb. Sorry friends I am not that good in understanding english. If is a verb, then we should never use such words, because something is stable for somebody and worst of somebody else. We should not put a permanent stamp for any car or manufacturer like that which really create problem in discussions. Sorry mods again going OT here ,but felt to post this to keep the thread healthy !!

So now we move on to TATA now !! ok

 

[jayadev]

My Dad and relatives were so unhappy for I dint buy Maruti car. they thought and still think Maruti is best car. My friend circle have 9 suzuki swift and they were annoyed with me for not buying swift or Ritz. They were quite sarcastic when My Indica Vista got Kaput and I sold it.
Again they had frown eyes when I bought Punto.they all concluded "you will learn it hard way only!" that did make me worry though Punto was Loyal but "worry" is in corner of my mind .

 

[manza_class]

My dear Friends...
Lets get practical. I buy a car coz I liked some thing about the car. If some one does not buy the car I bought doesnt mean that his car or my car has problems.
I have read most of the ownership issues and every where there are CONS written about their cars. There can never be a car which meet all the requirements of any individual.

I own Tata Manza and am happy with the car but I have some negatives about it as well. Earlier I used to feel bad about these negatives but then I realised that I am not enjoying my car by thinking about not so important things about the car. I learnt not to take things so seriously and started enjoying my car. I spend almost 2.30hrs daily in my car, I should love it and respect it .

Problems are always present, so lets list the pros and cons of TATA and learn from user experiences and move on. If you dont like a particular brand then just leave it aside and move on!!!

 

[swift&furious]

Re: Tata Motor’s Cars – The Ultimate Reliability Survey

Hey my dear friends Swift & Dharmesh !!

Of Late I have seen in many posts, somebody calling "TATA stable" "Maruti Stable" & "Toyota Stable", is it something a brand name, I mean Stable is a noun or verb. Sorry friends I am not that good in understanding english. If is a verb, then we should never use such words, because something is stable for somebody and worst of somebody else.

Thank you for refreshing my memory again it was me who used the word stable in my posts, well i was not into some phoenix or oxford grammar class

But with what i know its a noun, verb just by some common english usage and understanding

If i go by a dictionary it can take form in what way you need to use it :

Horse Racing :

an establishment where racehorses are kept and trained.

Informal :

a collection of items produced by or belonging to an establishment, industry, profession, or the like: The American auto industry has some new small cars in its stable.

So when i tell from toyota stable it means collection of cars produced by Toyota

Thank you, you made me check the dictionary after a long time

Stable | Define Stable at Dictionary.com


Yes i understand now that we must stick on to the topic and make sure we don't go

 

[Iron Rock]

Gentlemen lets stick to the topic, You could continue the English language discussions in Autosafari's newly created thread in Member's Lounge. Further OT posts will be moderated. Just to remind again this thread is about "Tata Motor’s Cars – The Ultimate Reliability Survey"

 

[nairrak]

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How much Kms was the car used when you bought ? And how sure are you that the car was not abused by the previous owner ? How many owners used the car before you bought ?

Had around 52K on it. I was the second owner and the car was used by a married middle aged man. So pretty sure that the car was not too badly abused. I loved the way it looked but the frequent visits to service center turned me off and finally had to dump it.

 

[Tornado]

Re: Tata Motor’s Cars – The Ultimate Reliability Survey

@ Raja, here on this poll and thread,one thing is clear that majority is fully satisfied but most of them are complaining about the car also, inspite of good ratings given by them.

This is simply because all good done by the manufactuer is voided by the TASS most of the time and very rarely TASS suffers because of manufacturing defect(I am talking of recent time and not indica, sumo safari launch period, even those days TATA was playing pioneeing role) And the poor car user doesn't know whom to blame.
The manufacturer and ASS ( the two most important things)are two sides of one coin , but both sides can not be read at the same time .

So I would suggest a change in voting pattern, I i.e. two different polls on the same thread ,
1) reliability AFA TATA company is concerned.
2) reliability AFA TASS is concerned.
Though both are interrelated , they are not integrated, TATA S have started supervising and monitoring the TASS but do not have direct (owner/servant ) control on TASS. Car booking receipt clearly mentions that it is a partnership.

I request you to read post no. #39,#42#44#59#74#86 in this order only , on my ownership thread '9 months old manza aura Qjd: 9 months /20 k km ownership review'
, and then post no. #38,#51,#54,#56,#80,# 81,#82 #91,#93,#113 in that order,on the
same thread.


I hope , you will understand what TATA is doing , and what TASS is doing in recent time & the result of the polls will be reliable, helpful to TATA, TASS and buyers as well.

 

[Ankx]

Friends my 2 cents on this thread

I own a 6 Year old Indica XETA (I am a rare category. yes its a petrol and its a TATA, so you would want to think that i must be very unhappy), but to be honest i am really happy with my Indica XETA and also my choice to buy an Petrol Indica 6 yrs back.

Of course situations change and today petrol is very very costly, so if i want to upgrade my car it might be a Diesel today, but it does not matter as i am not changing my car now

Coming to the car - I have always kept my car like a small baby and always took her for servicing every 5000 KMs or 6 months whichever is earlier

I never used to compromise on anything that the service advisor would suggest me in the servicing schedule (Also i am very lucky to get a TASS which was very good in Thane and was also very good in Pune)

Anything or everything reccomended by my trusted service advisor has always been agreed by me, so my servicing bills every 6 months / 5k KMs would cost around 5-6k. Do you feel its costly?

Well look at the end result - I have a Indica XETA for the last 6 years and i have never been let down by her anywhere apart from Punctures (Touch Wood)

My suggestion to prospective TATA car buyers and current owners would be this:

1) Always stick to the regular service schedules and a good TASS

2)Always keep good realations with some good Service advisors in the TASS
(Beleive me - it helps)

3) Dont buy tata cars if you already are nervous about the future niggles, because even if you go ahead and buy the car,, every small issue will feel like a niggle and you would think that - this has happened because it is a TATA car (it is not the case anyhow). How many maruti and hyundai cars should i show you on Mumbai - Pune expressway in the rainy season which have failed mid way due to NIGGLES which people associate with TATA. Touchowood my Indica has never failed even once on the expressways

4) Does TATA advertise that the small cars like Indica, VISTA, Indigo, etc are the best luxurious cars? No way - It is in the business of selling VFM cars.

So why expect them to be behave and serve you like Luxurious cars which sell at 10-15 lacs rupees?

5) My Indica costed me around 3.4 laks rs ON ROAD & so i was expecting the same service from her as i would expect from any 3 lac car (Its a different thing that she has surpassed all my expecations with flying colors)

All the above points do not mean that TATA Is doing everything good about their products. they definitely need to pull their socks and face the competition or get wiped out

My Objective for this Post is only to explain that TATA passenger cars are VFM cars. Nothing less,,, Nothing More

 

[Tornado]

Re: Tata Motor’s Cars – The Ultimate Reliability Survey

@ Raja,

So I would suggest a change in voting pattern, I i.e. two different polls on the same thread ,
1) reliability AFA TATA company is concerned.
2) reliability AFA TASS is concerned.
Though both are interrelated , they are not integrated, TATA S have started supervising and monitoringl.

It seems voting pattern can not be changed, hence I have decided to vote finally. And vote is casted.