Ownership Review: Polo 1.2 TDI Comfortline Diesel (100K Crossed)


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I bought my highline petrol 1.2 on the 1st of Mar and there was substantial engine noise felt even with the windows rolled up. VW asked to get the engine mounting changed from the rubber to Hydraulic. However I cud notice a different noise from the bonnet which happened only on bumpy roads. VW said that the gearbox mount needs to be changed. Ofcourse they did free of cost however..it disturbs me to have original parts changed when Ive not even cross 1.5k km...Also this was a Nov 2011 stock that I bought..Do you think the old stock might have been a malfunctioned one..plz suggest
I would suggest you to avoid old stocks which are surely not bad in most of the cases but trouble probability is more due to reason mentioned in previous posts.
 

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Though one should avoid buying old stock cars but there are certain slow-selling models that are most likely to be manufactured much earlier than the date of sale, this is acceptable. Normally there are no technical issues involved in such cars, except if it was not used as demo or test drive vehicle at the dealership. The only major benefit I see in buying a car of an older stock is that you can reap some huge discounts. If the sales man does not agrees to it, there is no point in considering that specific model.

At the same time, do also make sure to perform a thorough inspection inside out of the particular model which you are going to purchase (http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...pre-delivery-inspection-exhaustive-guide.html) and also insist the dealership for a complementary extended warranty. Frankly speaking, I have myself bought a car recently (Ford Fiesta 1.6 SXi) in spite of knowing that it is almost half a year old as per chassis number. After hard bargain, I managed a discount of around one lakh, which does matters to me, and I could not find a better car in the segment fulfilling my requirements within the budget than this. I also performed as much thorough inspection as I can. So far she is serving flawlessly and I am quite hopeful that the same experience will continue in the future too.

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.Do you think the old stock might have been a malfunctioned one..plz suggest
if 5 month old car start malfunctioning how is rest of the car going to stand couple of years?

The dealer (service technician)might have tampered with it.they pull out certain part in emergency from an old stock and same car remains as spare one..when they find a potential buyer just fix it back,Paint it sell like brand new .
 
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Though one should avoid buying old stock cars but there are certain slow-selling models that are most likely to be manufactured much earlier than the date of sale, this is acceptable. Normally there are no technical issues involved in such cars, except if it was not used as demo or test drive vehicle at the dealership. The only major benefit I see in buying a car of an older stock is that you can reap some huge discounts. If the sales man does not agrees to it, there is no point in considering that specific model.

At the same time, do also make sure to perform a thorough inspection inside out of the particular model which you are going to purchase (http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...pre-delivery-inspection-exhaustive-guide.html) and also insist the dealership for a complementary extended warranty. Frankly speaking, I have myself bought a car recently (Ford Fiesta 1.6 SXi) in spite of knowing that it is almost half a year old as per chassis number. After hard bargain, I managed a discount of around one lakh, which does matters to me, and I could not find a better car in the segment fulfilling my requirements within the budget than this. I also performed as much thorough inspection as I can. So far she is serving flawlessly and I am quite hopeful that the same experience will continue in the future too.

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Congrats for the car and nice to hear that.
Did you also check for the rust under seats , one of the issue which came in my car , I just want to say that to what level PDI can be done at last , do they also at times allow to drive the car before buying
I am very sorry to say that
I still have to find the source of rattling in my new vehicle
VW POLO 1.2 HL

List of services already performed in a new vehicle
1. Gear box mount replaced
3. Seat frame replaced

I am not saying that the old stock vehicle is bad .. i feel that i was unlucky with my car.
Also how to find the source of rattling in a car , the vw service guys not able to hear and somehow even i am not able to hear when they sit with me
Reason could be
Under seats noise
I plan to visit them and ask to open the seat and try to drive without left passenger seat
This is spoiling my whole ownership experience of otherwise very good car ..

Recent Incident

I was trying to press the various places of dashboard and seat while driving the car to find the source and I scrapped left side of the car with hanging bumper of alto
Luckily the car was not damaged, but still I will get to know about it in the morning.
 
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if 5 month old car start malfunctioning how is rest of the car going to stand couple of years?

The dealer (service technician)might have tampered with it.they pull out certain part in emergency from an old stock and same car remains as spare one..when they find a potential buyer just fix it back,Paint it sell like brand new .
Ah, this funda is new, and makes sense too. But if there is a waiting period, then it means there is no stock with dealer. These days when almost every car has a waiting period, it is very unlikely that dealer would have had an opportunity to tamper with stocked units.

Such thing is expected more from a garage guy than a Car dealer.

Though one should avoid buying old stock cars but there are certain slow-selling models that are most likely to be manufactured much earlier than the date of sale, this is acceptable.

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This brings respite to me. Though I was not concerned as much as Poloman and abhishek are, but still I had this doubt in mind.

I hope it its not a confusion anymore for us, those who have bought old car form VW. About the frequent rattles, we still have to figure out the reason, but old manufactured model is not at all the reason for such issues.


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Ah, this funda is new, and makes sense too. But if there is a waiting period, then it means there is no stock with dealer. These days when almost every car has a waiting period, it is very unlikely that dealer would have had an opportunity to tamper with stocked units.
Such thing is expected more from a garage guy than a Car dealer.
We cannot know about the waiting periods is it real or artificial. sometimes company do it intentionally as a marketing tactics,they have all sort of tricks to extract buyers.

high booking figures and long waiting periods are one of the few widely practiced marketing tricks in India presently to attract buyers.

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Btw if there is an old stock car from which certain part ,{a maybe slow moving and out of shelf } and have been plucked, chances are the dealer will have to wait for the same part to arrive and which may take weeks to months to arrive.
at first they do it in favor of existing customer to please . but at the end dealer has to get rid of the car which he do it in later course of time with discounts and et al.

when one is dealing with old stock cars or clearance sales etc ,he should be thorough in and out of it and shouldnt be lured with discounts and freebies.
 
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My Polo updates: Called VW-West service center on Monday for dent repair work they booked my car for Thursday, for repair they quoted 5K without insurance and 1.5K with insurance, they are able to quote exact sum after inspection, will visit them on this Thursday and update accordingly. They will keep my Polo for 4 days without diesel life will become tough.

Got call from VW-West service center, Thursday service booking is confirmed now.

On my way to office on Monday i noticed tak tak noise from my seat but later in evening i found the glass like container lying inside my seats and making noise :) I placed this container on my rear seat and from there it rolled down under the front seat and i was searching for same for a while.

Poloman and Rightnow did you got stock music system or fitted them later on? Some times these outside door speakers make occasional noise like what they did in my i10 even though i got them fitted by dealer, check them?

Poloman why don't you start your ownership review of your Polo to make everyone more aware of your car, hope this time you consider my request.
 
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Good ownership report whic very active and have become a comon place for olo owners,I must.

How did you find driving this car in th city when compared to the petrol ones you had?


Did hear thud thud sound when going over small potholes and how is the performance after 90km/h
 
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Good ownership report

Did hear thud thud sound when going over small potholes and how is the performance after 90km/h
Thanks point_city96 for your appreciation, surely ground clearance is low but if you compare this with other Indian hatchback's GC you find apart from Punto everyone is on same boat:

Punto 1.2 Fire petrol: 195MM

Punto 1.4 Fire Petrol and 1.3 Multijet diesel: 185MM

Fabia both petrol and diesel: 158MM

Figo both petrol and diesel: 168MM

Polo both petrol and diesel: 168MM

Ritz both petrol and diesel: 170MM

I-20 both petrol and diesel: 165MM

Swift both petrol and diesel:170MM

For handling and ride quality above 90 i find my Polo diesel quite stable, recently on my return journey from Jaipur a truck on my left lane (10-20M ahead) came across in front of my car for U turn this car saves our life stopped in nick of time though i am driving between 100-120kmph at that time.

City drive is good but surely diesel is diesel, car itself pulls well in second gear without acceleration and gave maximum surge in 2k rpm range.
 
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Good ownership report whic very active and have become a comon place for polo owners,I must.

How did you find driving this car in th city when compared to the petrol ones you had?


Did you hear thud thud sound when going over small potholes and how is the performance after 90km/h
I a sorry that the previous post of mine had errors.Above is the edited one.


I heard thud thud sound in vento,thats why i asked you.Even the i20(old) produces thud when going over potholes.

Punto 1.2 Fire petrol: 195MM

Punto 1.4 Fire Petrol and 1.3 Multijet diesel: 185MM

Fabia both petrol and diesel: 158MM

Figo both petrol and diesel: 168MM

Polo both petrol and diesel: 168MM

Ritz both petrol and diesel: 170MM

I-20 both petrol and diesel: 165MM

Swift both petrol and diesel:170MM

For handling and ride quality above 90 i find my Polo diesel quite stable, recently on my return journey from Jaipur a truck on my left lane (10-20M ahead) came across in front of my car for U turn this car saves our life stopped in nick of time though i am driving between 100-120kmph at that time.

City drive is good but surely diesel is diesel, car itself pulls well in second gear without acceleration and gave maximum surge in 2k rpm range.
Thanks for taking the effort to answer my queries.
Even our chevrolet beat's(petrol) GC is 165mm.

Did you find the turbo lag a problem when you have to slow down and make a quick overtaking maneuver.
 
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We cannot know about the waiting periods is it real or artificial. sometimes company do it intentionally as a marketing tactics,they have all sort of tricks to extract buyers.

high booking figures and long waiting periods are one of the few widely practiced marketing tricks in India presently to attract buyers.

__________________________________________

Btw if there is an old stock car from which certain part ,{a maybe slow moving and out of shelf } and have been plucked, chances are the dealer will have to wait for the same part to arrive and which may take weeks to months to arrive.
at first they do it in favor of existing customer to please . but at the end dealer has to get rid of the car which he do it in later course of time with discounts and et al.

when one is dealing with old stock cars or clearance sales etc ,he should be thorough in and out of it and shouldnt be lured with discounts and freebies.
Yes, I also think that waiting period and high booking figures (just like real estate) is a common gimmick in the market.

Now, such situation raises a few more questions in my mind.

If a car lot is shipped to a dealer as per dealer's requirements, doesn't the manufacturer keep track of sold/unsold cars?? If dealer intends to tamper with a unit, does he keep that unit anonymous to the manufacturer, or he allocates to a random/virtual buyer??

Assume that the dealer keeps a car for tampering- now, when the dealers posts his next round of requirement to the manufacturing plant, how does he write-off this unit? under which category does the dealer quote it as- unsold/faulty/sold to virtual buyer??

I think a dealer is not in a fair situation to tamper with stock units, though the manufacturing plant is. What do you think Jayadev?


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Yes, I also think that waiting period and high booking figures (just like real estate) is a common gimmick in the market.

Now, such situation raises a few more questions in my mind.

If a car lot is shipped to a dealer as per dealer's requirements, doesn't the manufacturer keep track of sold/unsold cars?? If dealer intends to tamper with a unit, does he keep that unit anonymous to the manufacturer, or he allocates to a random/virtual buyer??

Assume that the dealer keeps a car for tampering- now, when the dealers posts his next round of requirement to the manufacturing plant, how does he write-off this unit? under which category does the dealer quote it as- unsold/faulty/sold to virtual buyer??
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I have no indepth knowlledge in sales and marketing but basic things which I am aware of is what I mentioned. let us assume dealer will quote it in handling damage and wait for replacement or refurbishment .

I think a dealer is not in a fair situation to tamper with stock units, though the manufacturing plant is. What do you think Jayadev?
In a big country like India, a normal dealer has no other option, as the saying goes "A bird in hand is worth than 2 in bush" .
to keep customers happy dealers should know how to handle such situations by hook or crook..VW is a new entrant in India and has a very meagre service support facility but in order to keep up with the market they wont mind a compromise with mutual understanding..this I believe.
 
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I have no indepth knowlledge in sales and marketing but basic things which I am aware of is what I mentioned. let us assume dealer will quote it in handling damage and wait for replacement or refurbishment .

In a big country like India, a normal dealer has no other option, as the saying goes "A bird in hand is worth than 2 in bush" .
to keep customers happy dealers should know how to handle such situations by hook or crook..VW is a new entrant in India and has a very meagre service support facility but in order to keep up with the market they wont mind a compromise with mutual understanding..this I believe.
Yup. I know that it all happens in business and nothing is ideal, even if manufacturers boast of quality control systems, efficient supply chain etc.

I am discussing all such issues because I am still not convinced on the idea that a faulty unit is passed to a customer that easily. In my opinion, it can't be that smooth.

Lets see. I have to inquire my dealer about this issue, though I expect nothing more than some random funda on the matter[:)]


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@Rightnow did you got stock music system or fitted them later on? Some times these outside door speakers make occasional noise like what they did in my i10 even though i got them fitted by dealer, check them?
 
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Good ownership report whic very active and have become a comon place for olo owners,I must.

How did you find driving this car in th city when compared to the petrol ones you had?


Did hear thud thud sound when going over small potholes and how is the performance after 90km/h
About the thud thud: Over small pot holes, I don't hear any thud thud like sound at all. On bigger ones, or hard speed breakers, yes there is a sound but that sound is bound to be heard. I don't feel that there is anything wrong, or as if suspensions are loose.

In fact I love the way Polo handles the potholes- no jerks whatsoever. One more thing that is noticeable is- the more the speed the better it handles the potholes.

About 90 kmph- You wont even realize that you are at 90. I think 90 kmph is too low a speed to judge stability of polo at high speeds.

I had posted my Ownership Review here (need to update soon though): http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...-pal-volkswagen-polo-1-2-petrol-highline.html

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