My Dream SUV XUV500

[TSIVipul]

^^Buddy each point you mentioned is exactly right,no doubt.In fact,that's the reason I called for you to come up to rescue me..

My choice is just opposite:-
XUV has got a more direct and responsive steering which is lighter too and hence for low speed drives I'll choose XUV as it has one more advantage of softer suspension which gives it a good low speed ride and handling character.
But at high speeds its the Aria's wheel which feels more connected to me and no doubt the high speed ride is just great.So for high speed drives I'll choose the Aria.
But yes,get the XUV sprung slightly tighter and its the XUV for me.That engine and gearbox combo really begs for far better dynamics to completely exploit their capabilities.

 

[LOVECARS]

^^Buddy each point you mentioned is exactly right,no doubt.In fact,that's the reason I called for you to come up to rescue me..

My choice is just opposite:-
XUV has got a more direct and responsive steering which is lighter too and hence for low speed drives I'll choose XUV as it has one more advantage of softer suspension which gives it a good low speed ride and handling character.
But at high speeds its the Aria's wheel which feels more connected to me and no doubt the high speed ride is just great.So for high speed drives I'll choose the Aria.
But yes,get the XUV sprung slightly tighter and its the XUV for me.That engine and gearbox combo really begs for far better dynamics to completely exploit their capabilities.

Vipul, now you are quite near to Truth. As far as XUV is concerned, U are bang-on.......

 

[TSIVipul]

^^I have mentioned this point thousands of times on TAI but is unable to understand why it takes so long for it to reach everybody.
Why Safari and Aria have better high speed ride?
Simple it is:Long travel suspension with harder springs.This makes both of them feel a bit too much rolling but still they don't overturn easily.

Why Scorpio and XUV have floaty high speed ride?
Simple it is:Shorter travel suspension with softer springs make even air pressure disturb the vehicle.And even after passing over undulations,the vehicle keeps on wobbling because softer springs keep on pressing then also.This makes high speed handling floaty and with added (dis)advantage of a lighter steering(which don't weigh up upto the requirement)the game worsens even more.
Else there is nothing wrong...HAHA,I PLACE MY WORDS ON LOGIC AND MY OWN EXPERIENCE..NOT JUST ARTICLES..

 

[LOVECARS]

^^I have mentioned this point thousands of times on TAI but is unable to understand why it takes so long for it to reach everybody.
Why Safari and Aria have better high speed ride?
Simple it is:Long travel suspension with harder springs.This makes both of them feel a bit too much rolling but still they don't overturn easily.

Why Scorpio and XUV have floaty high speed ride?
Simple it is:Shorter travel suspension with softer springs make even air pressure disturb the vehicle.And even after passing over undulations,the vehicle keeps on wobbling because softer springs keep on pressing then also.This makes high speed handling floaty and with added (dis)advantage of a lighter steering(which don't weigh up upto the requirement)the game worsens even more.
Else there is nothing wrong...HAHA,I PLACE MY WORDS ON LOGIC AND MY OWN EXPERIENCE..NOT JUST ARTICLES..

I think too much technological detailing, which ideally should be left to Engineers and other experts who know much better than us, can create unnecessary phobias and ill-informed notions in mind of a person who is just supposed to enjoy the drive.
When I checked out the Safaris' and Arias' of this world, their stiff gear-shift, heavy steering and poor pick-ups dampened my spirit and these all things got rectified in XUV, so what U hate it for, I actually love it for.
Thank God, U didn't get to buy it (thx to that huge premium which discouraged U) and thank God, that I didn't get to read your strange comments which may have confused me from going ahead with buying and enjoying the ride of a marvelous car at speeds of both 20 and 129 km/hr.

 

[TSIVipul]

Eh,this is an endless debate and hence its better to leave it here itself...
Your car and your money..you are happy,that means this is the best car in the world for you.Simple it is.
How about some interior pics of him?I think you should give him a name like 'silver surfer' etc etc.

 

[2teja]

Re: Delhi-Vrindaban trip

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I don't know how many of U know but there is a route through Sohna road in Gurgaon which U approach from NH24 and it allows one to avoid maddening traffic of Faridabad-Ballabhgarh stretch. I always take this route and it allows me to drive through lush-green fields of Sohna-Palwal stretch and after Palwal, highway till Vrindaban ......

Could you shed some more light on this route?

Also, I've been noticing a lot of "U's" in your posts which seem very prominent. Any particular reason if I may ask?

 

[LOVECARS]

Re: Delhi-Vrindaban trip

Could you shed some more light on this route?

Also, I've been noticing a lot of "U's" in your posts which seem very prominent. Any particular reason if I may ask?

Mr Tuteja, if U are staying in North/West/South Delhi/Gurgaon, then only this route is suitable, reach Dhaula Kuan and take NH8 towards Gurgaon. After crossing the Toll Plaza, turn left towards Sohna Road. That road will take U straight to Sohna from where U should take left towards Palwal which is some 30km away from here and drive is through lush-green wheat fields.
Advantage is there is hardly any red-light to negotiate after Dhaula Kuan and traffic isn't a problem unlike Mathura Road.

And as for U, its just a short form for 'You'. Just the ease, no other reason.

 

[raj_5004]

Errr... I feel it is the XUV which has stiffer springs than the Aria. That is the reason Aria's ride is better and XUV's handling is better.

 

[Iron Rock]

Errr... I feel it is the XUV which has stiffer springs than the Aria. That is the reason Aria's ride is better and XUV's handling is better.

Err exactly wht i was thinking, the XUV is more configured for handling than ride quality. Its stiffer and hence low speed ride is stiff, i find the high speed ride better (high for me is over 80kmph), whereas the Aria is exactly opposite its set up for Ride quality and hence has soft springs.

 

[TSIVipul]

^^Eh,once again..Aria and XUV!!!!

@LOVECARS:Buddy don't curse me for spoiling your pleasant ownership thread..I tried to keep only positive views but.
Rest,waiting for fresh pics..

(Raj+Iron Rock+Lovecars) Vs (only one Vipul)..its not good guys.
If we have to again make these Aria Vs XUV arguments,then please make a new thread.I assure you that I'll mention just 10 points and keep on them seeking answers to them.
BTW,I was not expecting the less powerful and more fuel efficient Raj 2012 to come up with this point.

 

[raj_5004]

There is already a thread for that -

http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...-why-aria-failed-take-off-but-xuv-did-25.html

you can mention your 10 points there.

 

[TSIVipul]

The thread will come up again when it will be felt needful.But,do we really need to turn back to this endless debate once more?
Let's talk there,instead of spoiling this ownership thread.

 

[LOVECARS]

The thread will come up again when it will be felt needful.But,do we really need to turn back to this endless debate once more?
Let's talk there,instead of spoiling this ownership thread.

Come on Vipul, be a sport, there is nothing like spoiling the ownership thread, it's just about getting facts right..........

I am not a technical person like most so many experts here but I feel spring in XUV is definitely on softer side which is very helpful in handling as well as driving at slower speeds. When I had first bought it without taking a test drive, I had thought I would mainly drive it on highways while my AT i10 will help me in city drive but I was very positively surprised when I started driving my XUV in congested city roads of Delhi. It handles even slow speeds very well.
As for high speeds, it gets to 100-120 mark effortlessly and simply breezes along. Steering does feel bit light at times but then not to a level where U feel any problem. In fact, light steering is a 'boon' in this car.
To conclude, I feel XUV500 drives and handles very good both at low and high speeds, and hats off to engineers at Mahindra for pulling it off.

 

[TSIVipul]

Come on Vipul, be a sport, there is nothing like spoiling the ownership thread, it's just about getting facts right..........

Thanks for the NOC buddy...

Errr... I feel it is the XUV which has stiffer springs than the Aria. That is the reason Aria's ride is better and XUV's handling is better.

Well,this is one of the weirdest logic I have ever heard.Why?
Softer springs=Unsettled ride at high speeds.There are thousands of examples like Verna,Vento etc.
This gives a cushion like ride at lower speeds and everyone knows it very well that XUV and Scorpio both are low-speed ride kings...add Verna and Vento too to the list.

Why it happens?
Because if the suspension is soft,then it will depress a bit too much on undulations at high speeds and make the ride unsettled or say jiggly.Typical characteristics that can be observed in Verna and XUV.I hope I don't need to own an XUV for stating my points!!

The UV has got soft springs with shorter travel,which depress very easily on even mild undulations at lower speeds and the ride is good at moderate speeds like 60-80 kph and after that the game starts changing.
While if you have 7 passengers on board then the unsettlement is more and less both at the same time.

Handling thing?
No reply from my side,first of all please define me what sort of handling you people are talking of?I mean Quick steering with negligible body roll,'slight' quick steering with body roll,moderate steering with moderate body roll or what sort of handling parameter you people are comparing the cars?
In my views:
Handling:Precise steering with good weight and responsiveness+rigid chassis+settled high speed ride.(I haven't mentioned body roll because SUVs have loads of it)

And vice versa for cars with tighter sprung suspension...AND HENCE ARIA AND SAFARI,BOTH HAVE TIGHTER SUSPENSION.Any doubt?

Err exactly wht i was thinking, the XUV is more configured for handling than ride quality. Its stiffer and hence low speed ride is stiff, i find the high speed ride better (high for me is over 80kmph), whereas the Aria is exactly opposite its set up for Ride quality and hence has soft springs.

^^Please consult the above reply..

I am not a technical person like most so many experts here but I feel spring in XUV is definitely on softer side which is very helpful in handling as well as driving at slower speeds.

I think I was also saying the same and that also in 'english' only.But still no one understood it!!I hope,the owner's words will make some impact.

When I had first bought it without taking a test drive, I had thought I would mainly drive it on highways while my AT i10 will help me in city drive but I was very positively surprised when I started driving my XUV in congested city roads of Delhi. It handles even slow speeds very well.
As for high speeds, it gets to 100-120 mark effortlessly and simply breezes along. Steering does feel bit light at times but then not to a level where U feel any problem. In fact, light steering is a 'boon' in this car.
To conclude, I feel XUV500 drives and handles very good both at low and high speeds, and hats off to engineers at Mahindra for pulling it off.

Buddy,I really praise your honesty towards yourself and your ride.Your words maybe agreed or not by me,but still I praise the fact that you mention exactly what you felt..not what you have read or heard from anywhere.I too believe in what I have felt,what I have experienced myself.Only issue is that people feel me biased against the car for two cons pointed out by me but are unable to find the 12 pros which I have mentioned at the same time!!!

 

[LOVECARS]

Vipul, nobody holds anything against U for any of the Cons u mentioned. The point is to be Honest. And I think 'honest' all of us are.

My saying 10 points in favour and your saying 2 points against it isn't going to make XUV a better or worse car. The ar will remain what it already is.

The point is that a novice like me wud be fool to argue with U on technical points looking at your enthusiasm and knowledge but again it won't be wise on your part to dismiss what we have to say, though U may not agree. After all, U are 19 year old but my driving experience too dates back to around 23 years. After all, I was all of 15 years of age when I first drove my dad's Fiat all the way upto Mussoorie and back from Delhi with 7 people on board.

I do confess that I didn't have a Driving licence then but since I was very tall even then, nobody stopped me for any sort of checking. And yes, ride and handling of even Fiat wasn't that Bad either