Maruti Suzuki Swift: Technical Issues & Solutions

[ameyam]

Colour of the engine oil is not the correct measure of its effectiveness, infact its holding combustion impurities well if your engine oil colour becomes brown its doing its job correctly. Engine oil flush not at all recommended even at 2 lak km. Change engine oil at regular intervals just before manufacturer specified time limit.

-suryaputhra

Ok look at it like this- when refilling water in a drinking water bottle, we do flush it before we fill na. Similarly with the oil.
Like you said, the oil holds combustion impurities but also, fine mteal fragments from the liner & piston rings as well as the soot from its own degradation. When the oil is drained, some impurities are left behing in the passages & sump. If you refill without flush, these enter the new oil & reduce its capabilities to do its job. Thats why the suggest to flush. Basically, during flush, they put in some cheap oil & run the engine to let it pickup the residue. Then they drain this oil & put in new oil as per manufacturer standards & filter.

Based on the running of the car, engine flush needs to be done. My preowned WagonR did not have complete service history, so i flushed it at 40k service & the engine became appreciably smoother. In mt Swift, i did the flush at 10k but i hadn't used the car too much so didn't notice much difference. But my oil remained yellow till i sold the car 4 months later at 15k km

Ameyam

 

[Suryaputhra]

Ok look at it like this- when refilling water in a drinking water bottle, we do flush it before we fill na. Similarly with the oil.
Like you said, the oil holds combustion impurities but also, fine mteal fragments from the liner & piston rings as well as the soot from its own degradation. When the oil is drained, some impurities are left behing in the passages & sump. If you refill without flush, these enter the new oil & reduce its capabilities to do its job. Thats why the suggest to flush. Basically, during flush, they put in some cheap oil & run the engine to let it pickup the residue. Then they drain this oil & put in new oil as per manufacturer standards & filter.

Based on the running of the car, engine flush needs to be done. My preowned WagonR did not have complete service history, so i flushed it at 40k service & the engine became appreciably smoother. In mt Swift, i did the flush at 10k but i hadn't used the car too much so didn't notice much difference. But my oil remained yellow till i sold the car 4 months later at 15k km

Ameyam

Sir, I have given my opinion based on highly tech resources, I never mind someone want to do engine flush that is upto them, my whole agenda is to bring authentic tech info to forum members.

-suryaputhra

 

[VISHNUCARCRAZY]

Engine flush is totally unnecessary .

Old cars used mineral oil,now the technology has changed ,synthetic oil has additives in them which takes away the metal impurities or dilutes them within the oil layer.

Flushing isn't necessary , certain amount of the impurities if at all the oil doesn't take in the oil filter will do its job.

 

[Suryaputhra]

@VISHNUCARCRAZY, 2014 Oct onwards maruti suggests 5W30 for diesel and 0W20 oil for petrol cars.

-suryaputhra

 

[raceon]

Swift VDI 4th paid service advice

Hi Guys,

A month ago, completed 2 years with my Swift VDI . But my vehicle driven only 5000 KM(we use only occasionally).
My vehicle is due of 4th paid service. And Varun motors keep calling me everyday.

Is it right time to give service as i haven't driven much.
Service person told me that it will cost me around 9000rs. He said that labour charges is 1550 and rest is for filters includes wheel alignment which costs 9k rupees, as the vehicle completes 2years so has to change filter.

Is the price for total service is normal or is he telling any extra amount ?

Between How do we know that the filters are changed ?

 

[Suryaputhra]

Re: Swift VDI 4th paid service advice

Hi Guys,

A month ago, completed 2 years with my Swift VDI . But my vehicle driven only 5000 KM(we use only occasionally).
My vehicle is due of 4th paid service. And Varun motors keep calling me everyday.

Is it right time to give service as i haven't driven much.
Service person told me that it will cost me around 9000rs. He said that labour charges is 1550 and rest is for filters includes wheel alignment which costs 9k rupees, as the vehicle completes 2years so has to change filter.

Is the price for total service is normal or is he telling any extra amount ?

Between How do we know that the filters are changed ?

Ask him what he is doing for Rs.7450 let him give in detail, rest we will decide. Generally, change engine oil, change gear oil because your car falls I hope type 2 engine, change coolant, change fuel filter, no engine flushing, no radiator flushing, Alignment and balancing do outside. Try for Hunter road force wheel balancing.

-suryaputhra

 

[VISHNUCARCRAZY]

When was last service done ?
Specify how many months and kms have passed after last service?

 

[VISHNUCARCRAZY]

Guys
Recently when my car was done wheel rotation,i noticed that the mounts where wheel is mounted ,that area had small bits of rust,the technician had told me its normal ,and mostly during brake servicing,the area will be cleaned,and he adviced to paint the area ,and he too added the idea to paint calliper.

My query is ,is the rusting normal?
The image is from net.
In my case the entire assembly is not rusted,just the outer rotor(slight rust) and the 4 mount area on rotor.

 

[allhyundaicars]

yeah it's normal. nothing to worry about.

 

[raceon]

When was last service done ?
Specify how many months and kms have passed after last service?

Last service was done in June 2015 . After that i driven 2600km approx.

Ask him what he is doing for Rs.7450 let him give in detail, rest we will decide. Generally, change engine oil, change gear oil because your car falls I hope type 2 engine, change coolant, change fuel filter, no engine flushing, no radiator flushing, Alignment and balancing do outside. Try for Hunter road force wheel balancing.

-suryaputhra

Everything plus AC filter is included except radiator flushing(i do not know what it is) that costs Rs.7450.
Well i do not know any outside service center. And i have nil knowledge about cars,so i prefer Authorized service center.

When i asked my Neighbor about this,he said no need to give service as car was not driven much.

But is it really necessary to change filters as i haven't driven much ?

June 2015 was my last Third service ran 2400km at that moment. Today it is 4992km reading.

 

[VISHNUCARCRAZY]

Actually for your kind of running a petrol was the ideal one.
A diesel with too low running.
For service - You can just ask them to check with level of fluids-
1.Transmission fluid/Gear oil
2.Coolant
3.Brake fluid
4.A/C coolant

Engine oil and oil filter may be replaced(Needed if you wish ,as 2 years with same engine oil ,in my opinion needs a change,and my car hasn't been left in such a long condition)

 

[Suryaputhra]

Everything plus AC filter is included except radiator flushing(i do not know what it is) that costs Rs.7450.
Well i do not know any outside service center. And i have nil knowledge about cars,so i prefer Authorized service center.

When i asked my Neighbor about this,he said no need to give service as car was not driven much.

But is it really necessary to change filters as i haven't driven much ?

June 2015 was my last Third service ran 2400km at that moment. Today it is 4992km reading.

Change engine oil and filter, you can skip coolant and skip AC cabin filter. Better change gear oil, you can skip air filter but change fuel filter.

-suryaputhra

Guys
Recently when my car was done wheel rotation,i noticed that the mounts where wheel is mounted ,that area had small bits of rust,the technician had told me its normal ,and mostly during brake servicing,the area will be cleaned,and he adviced to paint the area ,and he too added the idea to paint calliper.

My query is ,is the rusting normal?
The image is from net.
In my case the entire assembly is not rusted,just the outer rotor(slight rust) and the 4 mount area on rotor.

May be normal but not advisable, if you leave the car like that gap between brake disk surface and wheel rim lug nut mounting will increase, over the time your lug nut hole taper is increased and lug nut will go inside. The result you will always out of toe and wheel rim or alloy wheel rim should be replaced.

To avoid that you can apply thick graphite grease will last for many washes. That is the way I protect my car.

-suryaputhra

 

[VISHNUCARCRAZY]

Can i do the greasing during next service ,as now i have cleaned and i had applied conventional technique of cleaning with kerosene.

 

[Suryaputhra]

Can i do the greasing during next service ,as now i have cleaned and i had applied conventional technique of cleaning with kerosene.

Yes you can do next time but don't clean rust, you will be losing the metal, just apply thick grease no further rust will be formed.

-suryaputhra

 

[raceon]

Actually for your kind of running a petrol was the ideal one.
A diesel with too low running.
For service - You can just ask them to check with level of fluids-
1.Transmission fluid/Gear oil
2.Coolant
3.Brake fluid
4.A/C coolant

Engine oil and oil filter may be replaced(Needed if you wish ,as 2 years with same engine oil ,in my opinion needs a change,and my car hasn't been left in such a long condition)

Last service done a year back which means a year old Engine oil.