Maruti Suzuki Baleno Premium Hatchback Now Launched


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Last month i made a highway trip covering around 980 kms. Unfortunately when i was trying to overtake a vehicle front right wheel struct with a big solid sharp stone. unexpected that big stone on a highway. im very sure wheel rolled over that stone. but didnt find any significant change in the driving of remaining 780 kms. but after the trip i found a small cut on the tyre on the right side. Not sure any damage done at the bottom of the tyre. Do i need to take any necessary steps now? Please suggest.

About the driving experience. car is very stable even at 155 kms. yes maximum i tried so far is 155kms. mileage is 21.4 during the entire trip. i own alpha petrol rayblue.
Godknows how you guys drive beyond 100. Yesterday, driving to to pune on the rough concrete expressway, everytime i exceeded 100, the car began to buzz. That didnt happen at lower speeds. However, there were some straight patches where it went past 100 without the buzz

On the way back, my driver was at the wheel & he felt the same drift to one side then other that i had previously reported. However, it only happens in the patch between Talegaon toll & lonavala. Later, the car didnt pull irrespective of speed

Also, with my mom in the back as previously, the car didnt jump around like in the previous trips. I have now completed 5k km, so it looks like suspension starts settling down after this distance as some have reported previously. Also, the pressure gauge at Khalapur HPCL pump is out of calibration. I know i had 28psi in for regular city use and it never reduces much. But at that pump, it was showing 25psi even in a warm car. I put in 28psi there and the ride became considerably rough. So once i cleared the ghat section, i stopped and released some air by judgement and the ride was much more bearable. My mom said the car did jump around but not as much as before. I dont have any suspension inserts now.

I noticed two things with the aircon. Firstly after stopping in the sun at the food plaza, the car heayed up and the pull down with aircon was non-existant. I finally switch it off totally after driving a few km, then restarted it and cooling was better thereafter. Still, when i stopped to lower pressure, it was colder outside than inside. Secondly, the aircon was putting a big load on the engine. There was traffic in the ghats and i was driving in 1st gear behind a truck on a particularly uphill section. The car didnt seem to want to accelerate and i finally had to put the aircon off to get the ruthless pickup i wanted on the truck who was driving in the 1st lane with a heavy load and in 1st gear

My total FE including all this and the Pune traffic was 16.6 as per the MID. I didnt bother to check by tank to tank methods because by the time i got home, i had a fever from a stomach upset i has since morning and just needed to rest

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I don't think air con putting load on engine in present generation MSIL engines staring from Swift 2015.

"The car didnt seem to want to accelerate" The actual reason is below

It is just gear ratio+MAP(Manifold absolute pressure)+APP+real time ETP+real time VVT feedback+ECM.

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Last month i made a highway trip covering around 980 kms. Unfortunately when i was trying to overtake a vehicle front right wheel struct with a big solid sharp stone. unexpected that big stone on a highway. im very sure wheel rolled over that stone. but didnt find any significant change in the driving of remaining 780 kms. but after the trip i found a small cut on the tyre on the right side. Not sure any damage done at the bottom of the tyre. Do i need to take any necessary steps now? Please suggest.

About the driving experience. car is very stable even at 155 kms. yes maximum i tried so far is 155kms. mileage is 21.4 during the entire trip. i own alpha petrol rayblue.
Hi alextki, good to kw its stable at even 155 kmpl. Let me guess did you took Hassan highway ? I guess that's the only strech where you can get chance to stretch your Alpha's legs. I did tried 120 and it was very stable but when any heavy vehicle passes by it just leaves the ground and go slightly one side happens mostly with those multi axel Volvos.

Making a trip to Ooty this month end and excited to try zeta on those 36 hairpin bends.
 
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I don't think air con putting load on engine in present generation MSIL engines staring from Swift 2015.

"The car didnt seem to want to accelerate" The actual reason is below

It is just gear ratio+MAP(Manifold absolute pressure)+APP+real time ETP+real time VVT feedback+ECM.

-suryaputhra
Could you explain in simpler english. Never had this issue on the 2014 Swift

This pull down issue is there in my car atleast. I often find that the cold air wont start being delivered in a hot car, even after you have vented heat with the blower & windows. Cold air will only come out of the vent once the car has driven for a few minutes & a couple of km, that too when starting from a higher setpoint & lowering the setting slowly. Have described the issue to both MS and the ASC before & again did last week. To demonstrate it, i need to heat soak the car in the sun for an hour atleast, then start it. The ASC never gas time for this. But MS has said theu will check it at 2nd service on Wednesday

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Godknows how you guys drive beyond 100. Yesterday, driving to to pune on the rough concrete expressway, everytime i exceeded 100, the car began to buzz. That didnt happen at lower speeds. However, there were some straight patches where it went past 100 without the buzz

On the way back, my driver was at the wheel & he felt the same drift to one side then other that i had previously reported. However, it only happens in the patch between Talegaon toll & lonavala. Later, the car didnt pull irrespective of speed

Also, with my mom in the back as previously, the car didnt jump around like in the previous trips. I have now completed 5k km, so it looks like suspension starts settling down after this distance as some have reported previously. Also, the pressure gauge at Khalapur HPCL pump is out of calibration. I know i had 28psi in for regular city use and it never reduces much. But at that pump, it was showing 25psi even in a warm car. I put in 28psi there and the ride became considerably rough. So once i cleared the ghat section, i stopped and released some air by judgement and the ride was much more bearable. My mom said the car did jump around but not as much as before. I dont have any suspension inserts now.

I noticed two things with the aircon. Firstly after stopping in the sun at the food plaza, the car heayed up and the pull down with aircon was non-existant. I finally switch it off totally after driving a few km, then restarted it and cooling was better thereafter. Still, when i stopped to lower pressure, it was colder outside than inside. Secondly, the aircon was putting a big load on the engine. There was traffic in the ghats and i was driving in 1st gear behind a truck on a particularly uphill section. The car didnt seem to want to accelerate and i finally had to put the aircon off to get the ruthless pickup i wanted on the truck who was driving in the 1st lane with a heavy load and in 1st gear

My total FE including all this and the Pune traffic was 16.6 as per the MID. I didnt bother to check by tank to tank methods because by the time i got home, i had a fever from a stomach upset i has since morning and just needed to rest

Ameyam
Hi ameyam, I think on concrete roads all you can do is drive under 80. Even my experience till now is bad on concrete roads. Good that we have mostly tar roads inside and around Bangalore. Pune I kw they have concrete roads covering most of the places.

Other thing about air con which I noticed is that when car is under direct sunlight for longer time it does take time to cool off when you use auto ac option. Instead i use to adjust it manually by keep it the temp completely low and once its cooler inside turn auto mode on.
 
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Actually shri, if i set "lo" in a warm car, it just doesn't cool. I have to drive a bit, then set 24~25, then drop it lower. But this last week, it was set at 20 and full blower & still was not cooling

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" noticed is that when car is under direct sunlight for longer time it does take time to cool off when you use auto ac option. Instead i use to adjust it manually by keep it the temp completely low and once its cooler inside turn auto mode on"

I do not agree with above statement, auto AC is well equipped with four sensors and it will do best any time over manual.

@ameyam, your trouble is that they have changed your compressor, your symptoms are improper installation.

Regarding MSIL air con, I am writing a very special post titled "The beauty of AC compressors used by MSIL in a day or two, that reveals everything.

"gear ratio+MAP(Manifold absolute pressure)+APP+real time ETP+real time VVT feedback+ECM." it is complex thing to explain, to cut short, When you go uphill, based on the above parameters ECM senses that you are going uphill and adjust VVT and other parameters to get more torque at wheels to climb instead of acceleration.

My recent trip to native in Andhra where temp reads 46 to 47C I never had any issue with air con while driving uphill or using the air con under red hot sun after lunch.

-suryaputhhra
 
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I replaced my Ritz vxi with the Baleno AT in January. Couldn't be happier in city traffic. It's a point and shoot car, even without engaging Sport Mode. This button gives you any speed at either a cruising or torquey rpm. Hills and curves are a delight, while it manages adequately on long straights. Choice of tyre & air pressure is critical in it's set-up.
 

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" noticed is that when car is under direct sunlight for longer time it does take time to cool off when you use auto ac option. Instead i use to adjust it manually by keep it the temp completely low and once its cooler inside turn auto mode on"

I do not agree with above statement, auto AC is well equipped with four sensors and it will do best any time over manual.

@ameyam, your trouble is that they have changed your compressor, your symptoms are improper installation.

Regarding MSIL air con, I am writing a very special post titled "The beauty of AC compressors used by MSIL in a day or two, that reveals everything.

"gear ratio+MAP(Manifold absolute pressure)+APP+real time ETP+real time VVT feedback+ECM." it is complex thing to explain, to cut short, When you go uphill, based on the above parameters ECM senses that you are going uphill and adjust VVT and other parameters to get more torque at wheels to climb instead of acceleration.

My recent trip to native in Andhra where temp reads 46 to 47C I never had any issue with air con while driving uphill or using the air con under red hot sun after lunch.

-suryaputhhra
Well, all i can say is that, once i switched off the aircon, i had the acceleration to do the needful. Everyone's feel of the drive is different. I am going to have MS look through the car anyway

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Hi alextki, good to kw its stable at even 155 kmpl. Let me guess did you took Hassan highway ? I guess that's the only strech where you can get chance to stretch your Alpha's legs. I did tried 120 and it was very stable but when any heavy vehicle passes by it just leaves the ground and go slightly one side happens mostly with those multi axel Volvos.

Making a trip to Ooty this month end and excited to try zeta on those 36 hairpin bends.
It is on bangalore to salem highway. im surprised to see the comments on the stability of the vehicle at high speeds. believe me it is the best on highways at high speed. max i touched was 155 kms. but my constant speed was 115-130. no complaints at all and i travelled nearly 980 kms on highways.
 
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" noticed is that when car is under direct sunlight for longer time it does take time to cool off when you use auto ac option. Instead i use to adjust it manually by keep it the temp completely low and once its cooler inside turn auto mode on"

I do not agree with above statement, auto AC is well equipped with four sensors and it will do best any time over manual.

@ameyam, your trouble is that they have changed your compressor, your symptoms are improper installation.

Regarding MSIL air con, I am writing a very special post titled "The beauty of AC compressors used by MSIL in a day or two, that reveals everything.

"gear ratio+MAP(Manifold absolute pressure)+APP+real time ETP+real time VVT feedback+ECM." it is complex thing to explain, to cut short, When you go uphill, based on the above parameters ECM senses that you are going uphill and adjust VVT and other parameters to get more torque at wheels to climb instead of acceleration.

My recent trip to native in Andhra where temp reads 46 to 47C I never had any issue with air con while driving uphill or using the air con under red hot sun after lunch.

-suryaputhhra[/
 
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" noticed is that when car is under direct sunlight for longer time it does take time to cool off when you use auto ac option. Instead i use to adjust it manually by keep it the temp completely low and once its cooler inside turn auto mode on"

I do not agree with above statement, auto AC is well equipped with four sensors and it will do best any time over manual.

@ameyam, your trouble is that they have changed your compressor, your symptoms are improper installation.

Regarding MSIL air con, I am writing a very special post titled "The beauty of AC compressors used by MSIL in a day or two, that reveals everything.

"gear ratio+MAP(Manifold absolute pressure)+APP+real time ETP+real time VVT feedback+ECM." it is complex thing to explain, to cut short, When you go uphill, based on the above parameters ECM senses that you are going uphill and adjust VVT and other parameters to get more torque at wheels to climb instead of acceleration.

My recent trip to native in Andhra where temp reads 46 to 47C I never had any issue with air con while driving uphill or using the air con under red hot sun after lunch.

-suryaputhhra
Agree with you as the auto ac is better then manual, just problem is when I keep it parked in office under direct sunlight and tried auto ac as soon as o start it goes on full mode and takes more then 10 mins sometimes to throw cool air. I tried doing it manually couple of times by dropping the temp completely low and I cud feel cooler air in about 5-8 minutes. Not in the case of auto ac as you get warm air for longer time.

Not sure as everyday the temp also varies which needs to be also taken into consideration when taking about this.
 
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" noticed is that when car is under direct sunlight for longer time it does take time to cool off when you use auto ac option. Instead i use to adjust it manually by keep it the temp completely low and once its cooler inside turn auto mode on"

I do not agree with above statement, auto AC is well equipped with four sensors and it will do best any time over manual.

@ameyam, your trouble is that they have changed your compressor, your symptoms are improper installation.

Regarding MSIL air con, I am writing a very special post titled "The beauty of AC compressors used by MSIL in a day or two, that reveals everything.

"gear ratio+MAP(Manifold absolute pressure)+APP+real time ETP+real time VVT feedback+ECM." it is complex thing to explain, to cut short, When you go uphill, based on the above parameters ECM senses that you are going uphill and adjust VVT and other parameters to get more torque at wheels to climb instead of acceleration.

My recent trip to native in Andhra where temp reads 46 to 47C I never had any issue with air con while driving uphill or using the air con under red hot sun after lunch.

-suryaputhhra
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Actually shri, if i set "lo" in a warm car, it just doesn't cool. I have to drive a bit, then set 24~25, then drop it lower. But this last week, it was set at 20 and full blower & still was not cooling

Ameyam
Yes it takes sometime to get cool air out.. My point here is if I match timings for both auto ac and manual ac I see manual worked little better in cooling off the cabin when kept in LO ..
 
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That's the way AC works. Cooling is better in manual mode compared to Auto Mode.

When you step inside the car which is parked in Sun, 1st thing to do is to roll down all windows to let heat out (I hope everyone knows this), then if you're not in hurry, spend 2 minutes by revving the engine in Neutral at around 2k-2.5k rpms.

Prefer to set AC to lowest temperature and select fan speed according to your liking. Select Recirculation and Face 'Only' Mode. Doing this will cool cabin quickly.

After that, you can drive away.

I do the same steps I have mentioned above in any car, any day. Frankly I don't use Auto mode, I find it useless although many use them. It's thier convenience.

Selecting Auto Mode does few things.
1. Increase in fan speed at fixed temperature (23-24 deg)
2. As soon as temperature knob is altered, fan speed drops accordingly.
3. Sometimes, it automatically switches to fresh air mode which will affect cooling compared to recirculation mode which aids cooling.

Try once and see if you feel any difference.
 
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