Maruti Suzuki Baleno Hatchback: Technical Issues & Solutions

[chetan20183]

Maruti Baleno Petrol Engine Connecting Rod Broken

My Car Maruti's Baleno (petrol) engine failed after 11000 KMS. Car is under warranty but local service center refuse to replace engine under warranty giving reason that engine connecting rod bend and broken. This happen only when water goes inside engine and hydrolock happen. Actually there is no evidence of water inside engine and even car never driven in water clogged area. They have explained one theory.

May be you have driven car in water clogged area in past and water goes inside engine through air filter. Only small portion of water will enter inside engine and goes out through exhaust. Due to that connecting rod gets minor bend. It will not affect the engine performance or sound. But after a interval when you drive car on highway at a speed,this rod may bend further and after that it brakes. They told in my case the same thing thing happen. They have given photograph of carbon deposition inside cyl wall. In one cyl block lining is more and other three it is normal. It means rod is already bend earlier and then after periodic interval it is breakdown. All services and oils replaced as per schedule at authorised center. Please suggest is it possible.

 

[furious_driver]

Re: Maruti Baleno Petrol Engine Connecting Rod Broken

From my search, it looks like so. Link here.

But still, isn't this covered under warranty? Did you check air filter/cleaner to see if it is wet?

Quoting few points from the link :

***Connecting rod bearings fail for lots of reasons. To find out what really caused a rod bearing failure,
you’ve got to take apart all of the rod bearings and main bearings and compare them side by side. If all
or most of the bearings and journals show similar damage (scoring, exposed copper, or heat
discoloration), the likely culprit is oil starvation, poor maintenance, customer abuse, or running the
engine with an aftermarket power booster (a nitrous oxide setup, supercharger, or turbocharger).

***If just the bearing or journal for the failed rod looks bad, but all the other ones look good (no scoring,
exposed copper, or heat discoloration) and the crankshaft journals are smooth with no heat
discoloration, then that particular bearing/clearance would be suspect.

 

[Prabhagar]

Re: Maruti Baleno Petrol Engine Connecting Rod Broken

@OP,
Did you check with your insurance agent/provider if this is claimable?

 

[Suryaputhra]

Re: Maruti Baleno Petrol Engine Connecting Rod Broken

My Car Maruti's Baleno (petrol) engine failed after 11000 KMS. Car is under warranty but local service center refuse to replace engine under warranty giving reason that engine connecting rod bend and broken. This happen only when water goes inside engine and hydrolock happen. Atcually there is no evidence of water inside engine and even car never driven in water clogged area. They have explained one theory.
May be u have driven car in water clogged area in past and water goes inside engine through air filter. Only small portion of water will enter inside engine and goes out though exhaust. Due to that connecting rod gets minor bend. It will not affect the engine performance or sound. But after a interval when u drive car on highway at a speed,this rod may bend further and after that it brakes. They told in my case the same thing thing happen. They have given photograph of carbon deposition inside cyl wall. In one cly block lining is more and other three it is normal. It means rod is already bend earlier and than after periodic interval it is breakdown. All services and oils replaced as per schedule at authorised center. Please suggest is it possible.

This is not hydro lock it is manufacturing defect ASS people confusing and cheating you. You should fight back strongly to get new engine(not half engine) under warranty.

 

[ankverma7]

Hi Guys,

I need your valuable suggestions here:

I am using Baleno Zeta 1.2 since 10 months and ODO is at 18500 now.
I got a punctured tyre and did not notice it since 5-6 kms. It run flat and tyre sidewall is weared now. a circular wearing mark is on sidewall of tyre. This is apollo alnac 4g tyre with alloy rim. Now,

1. Should I change the tyre? as it may be weakened by sidewall wearing.
2. Should I put the tube in this tubeless tyre?
3. Change it to a new tyre of same size/brand will be good or not? as all other 3 tyres are old.
4. Should I search for an old tyre of same size/brand with better ccondition than my tyre. Where to get an old tyre in Delhi-NCR at reasonable price?

Please suggest the best option.

 

[Akash1886]

Hi Guys,

I need your valuable suggestions here:

I am using Baleno Zeta 1.2 since 10 months and ODO is at 18500 now.
I got a punctured tyre and did not notice it since 5-6 kms. It run flat and tyre sidewall is weared now. a circular wearing mark is on sidewall of tyre. This is apollo alnac 4g tyre with alloy rim.
Please suggest the best option.

I would say go for a new Tyre of Apollo and get all the Tyre(s) filled with Nitrogen. The next best option could be using of Tube in the Tyre but since the sidewall has been damaged then even that will not help much. So, best is to go for new Tyre. I suggest, if possible go to Sector 16 Market in Noida and there is a shop by name of Ashok Tyres (they are authorized seller of Apollo). I too got my Esteem's Tyre(s) from them. The shop is in the back side of the market and you may approach it from the Courier Office(s) lane.

Regards

Akash

 

[ankverma7]

I would say go for a new Tyre of Apollo and get all the Tyre(s) filled with Nitrogen. The next best option could be using of Tube in the Tyre but since the sidewall has been damaged then even that will not help much. So, best is to go for new Tyre. I suggest, if possible go to Sector 16 Market in Noida and there is a shop by name of Ashok Tyres (they are authorized seller of Apollo). I too got my Esteem's Tyre(s) from them. The shop is in the back side of the market and you may approach it from the Courier Office(s) lane.

Regards

Akash

Thanks for your valuable suggestion here. In addition I want to ask that if three old tyre and one new tyre will cause any problem?
Also, attaching the image of old weared tyre.

 

[Akash1886]

Thanks for your valuable suggestion here. In addition I want to ask that if three old tyre and one new tyre will cause any problem?
Also, attaching the image of old weared tyre.

Seeing the pic buddy, best option will be to opt for a new Tyre and then get the Front Tyre(s) & Rear Tyre(s) rotated. That ways there will not be any issues. I have done the same for my Honda CITY and same was the case with my Esteem.

Regards

Akash

 

[chairmansaab]

My baleno's battery is getting drained even when the negative terminal is disconnected. The car was not in use for couple of months , i had disconnected the -ve terminal to preserve the charge. When the time came to make use of it, the car simply didn't start and we had to postpone our outings plan.

What kind of sorcery is this ? I'm damn sure if i hadn't removed the -ve terminal and left the battery as it is, the car would've started. I'm certain because i didn't unplug the battery last summer (2016) but car started on the first crank.

I'm bemused by this incident , i was expecting opposite being true not the other way around. I thought there might be some metal contact but there wasn't , closest object being the plastic casing of the battery, the -ve cable itself was hanging in the air.

 

[Sherlock747]

Do any one have the parts catalogue for Baleno 1.2 alpha.

Thanks in advance.

 

[soumyo2710]

Thanks, I have got baleno service manual, any time any technical help pls ask me. Congrats on your new car. Tomorrow I am writing on wheel alignment and balancing.

can i get a copy of this baleno sercvice manual? You can connect me on my mail.
This will be really helpful.

I am facing little trouble shifting to first and revrse gear every now and then ...maybe i dont press full clutch ... any one else facing the same issue?

i have similar issue. Have you got yours resolved?

 

[jacob]

i have similar issue. Have you got yours resolved?

This is known issue with Maruti cars including my Baleno. The first is hard to slot in, one can feel a crunch compared to other gears. The reverse also has a similar problem, no crunch but doesn't slot in sometimes. This problem cannot be replicated at service centers, so even taking it up with mechanics doesn't usually lead to a fix.

 

[ameyam]

Hi,

the 31st August flood in Mumbai affected my car. It was in parking and the surrounding area filled up. As per neighbours, it was bobbing in water upto the sill. However, only passenger side had water in the car. The engine oil was not milky and I drove it to the ASC the next day. It actually drove just normally but we decided to atleast replace the fluids considering the bad luck I have had with this car. The ASC initially wanted to raise an insurance claim but we realised that almost all the items to be replaced were consumables and not covered in insurance. So I got it done at my cost. Then they reported the clutch had water in it and the release spring had gotten "rusted" and replaced that. In the same go, they replaced my entire suspension which I was pestering them for a while now. Final bill 15k
After the replacement, car seemed to roll rather rough for a few days but now seems to be settling in. Maruti has definately done something about the suspension design because the ride isint as violent as before. But the thuds that happened through every pothole are now gone, replaced with a "dugh" sound. However, car did seem to wobble just a bit at very low speeds initially. Not sure if that was a car issue or just the roads but under 20, you can feel the wobble. I reported it back but they informed of no issue. I even had a third party tyre shop check the car and tyres for alignment, he too reported no issue with the tyres but didnt confirm regarding the suspension. On wednesday I will have my regular mechanic have a look at the car to crosscheck any mischief done by the ASC.
The jerks I kept having after and during releasing clutch in lower gears have reduced significantly though the clutch pedal itself seems harder now. Seeing the original clutch they gave me back, it doesnt at all seem like any damage to it. Looks more like I always had a release spring issues and they effectively changed it at my cost.

Suryaputra, any inputs on above two points?

Carpet is still drying, I will get that fixed back on Wednesday. Mean time driving with 3dmat in all including drivers footwell and there is no interference with clutch with 3dmat without carpet. Interestingly, the carpet has some elements of acoustic insulation stuck under it with contact adhesive. Noise has gone up for now, may be it will go down once I install the carpet. My engine had synthetic oil replaced just a month back when I gave them the car and they gave back with Servo. Synthetic oil will get put in once I realise the car start to struggle on Servo, mostly because its a pinch right now

Ameyam

 

[Suryaputhra]

Ameyam

Pls check below link

http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...writedown-post-submerged-rain.html#post547605

Two points you are asking I hope 1. Wobble at low speed. 2. Regarding Jerks and clutch hardness

1. Wobble at low speed. Let me know your tyre brand and ODO reading

2. Regarding Jerks and clutch hardness, after 20K pressure plate will become hard this results in clutch hardness and jerks will also reduce. Very minute pickup will increase but difficult to notice. This phase will go up to 80K and clutch plate starts wear and symptoms of clutch wear starts. You can drag this phase up to 120K. I have replaced my ZEN's stock clutch at 140K. But MASS will suggest you to replace clutch at 40K.

@soumyo2710, Service manual is of 2000 pages hard copy, scanning and sharing is difficult.

 

[Sherlock747]

Hi guys, here is the baleno service manual part no 9950068K3P0-74E. Costs about Rs. 2000 plus, you can order it any maruti distributor for genuine spares.

-Suryaputhra

@suryaputhra.kindly confirm that you have this manual, if yes I am in distress and need your help.