Hi guys, here is the baleno service manual part no 9950068K3P0-74E. Costs about Rs. 2000 plus, you can order it any maruti distributor for genuine spares.
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Maruti Suzuki Baleno Hatchback: Technical Issues & Solutions
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Re: Maruti Suzuki Baleno Technical Issues
Good to know its stable at 140 kmph. How about rear passengers, anyone complained about stiffness/hardness on back seat or is it ok for them ? Let me know if there is any need to put extra cushions in back seat so i can get it done along with seat covers. Thanks nkonamme.
Good to know its stable at 140 kmph. How about rear passengers, anyone complained about stiffness/hardness on back seat or is it ok for them ? Let me know if there is any need to put extra cushions in back seat so i can get it done along with seat covers. Thanks nkonamme.
Re: Maruti Suzuki Baleno Technical Issues
It would be a good idea to put cushions. Yesterday I did a ~300 km drive in my car and the rear suspension is saggy at moderate-high speeds. Boot was having only mid-size luggage and we were 2 adults at the back, still the rear suspension became very loose. The ride was still hard with the suspension giving a hard recoil when on its extreme limit. Lateral movement was felt at speeds aas the rear end was saggy. It is the only problem I had in the drive.
If you add some more foam (cushion) during seat cover install, it would increase the comfort levels very much. Under thigh part needs more cushioning.
It would be a good idea to put cushions. Yesterday I did a ~300 km drive in my car and the rear suspension is saggy at moderate-high speeds. Boot was having only mid-size luggage and we were 2 adults at the back, still the rear suspension became very loose. The ride was still hard with the suspension giving a hard recoil when on its extreme limit. Lateral movement was felt at speeds aas the rear end was saggy. It is the only problem I had in the drive.
If you add some more foam (cushion) during seat cover install, it would increase the comfort levels very much. Under thigh part needs more cushioning.
Ice_wise, from my Swift experience, in a new car, the comfort in the rear seat comes by trial and error with tyre pressures. When I moved form the Wagon R to the Swift, the first time my mom sat in the rear seat, she complained that the car was hammering away on the road as compared to the well used Waggie. I was using 33 psi in the rear as per the manual. We didn't know what the issue was but one weekend, we notice the car really running soft. Same time when we checked the pressure, it was down to 31psi. So we began experimenting with tyre pressures. We found that 31-32 psi in the front and 30-31 psi in the back gives the best ride in terms of comfort though the sprightliness of the car reduces.
If you use the car mostly alone or if the car is new, the suspension has not softened up, you will get a harder ride at speeds. So I suggest you drop the tyre pressure by 1 or 2 psi (I think 27psi or so) for long runs. In any case, if you do a long drive, I notice that tyre pressures are going up on their own.
Unlike the Xcent and the i20 which have bucket seats, the Baleno has flat bench in the rear. There is less comfort on long runs but its much easier to get in and out, especially if you have back problems like me or are a pensioner. In that regard, the Delta is actually comfier than the Zeta and Alpha because of the lack of bucket seats in the front
Another issue with bucket seats is that they don't support the lower back lumbar region. In actuality, its the lumbar vertebra that require support for comfort. Once those are supported, the upper back doesn't need that much support. In my case, since I use a frame belt, that isint too critical but it is for my parents. Some thing I did in the Swift for comfort is to keep a set of neck and square back pillows in the car. When you start feeling uncomfortable, put the pillow behind your lower back and waist as per your comfort. On my last trip down from Pune, inspite of the very rough ride in the Swift, my dad tried this and was snoring away in the back. For the pensioners, sitting slightly knees up actually helps circulation in the feet, so you don't end up stiff in long runs
@suryaputra, what part are you talking about? I am not very clear as there seems to be no previous reference post
Ameyam
If you use the car mostly alone or if the car is new, the suspension has not softened up, you will get a harder ride at speeds. So I suggest you drop the tyre pressure by 1 or 2 psi (I think 27psi or so) for long runs. In any case, if you do a long drive, I notice that tyre pressures are going up on their own.
Unlike the Xcent and the i20 which have bucket seats, the Baleno has flat bench in the rear. There is less comfort on long runs but its much easier to get in and out, especially if you have back problems like me or are a pensioner. In that regard, the Delta is actually comfier than the Zeta and Alpha because of the lack of bucket seats in the front
Another issue with bucket seats is that they don't support the lower back lumbar region. In actuality, its the lumbar vertebra that require support for comfort. Once those are supported, the upper back doesn't need that much support. In my case, since I use a frame belt, that isint too critical but it is for my parents. Some thing I did in the Swift for comfort is to keep a set of neck and square back pillows in the car. When you start feeling uncomfortable, put the pillow behind your lower back and waist as per your comfort. On my last trip down from Pune, inspite of the very rough ride in the Swift, my dad tried this and was snoring away in the back. For the pensioners, sitting slightly knees up actually helps circulation in the feet, so you don't end up stiff in long runs
@suryaputra, what part are you talking about? I am not very clear as there seems to be no previous reference post
Ameyam
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It is workshop manual it details everything about your car service and how to do that work and specific task. Easy to get in get out is one min process but sitting for long journey is several hours comparing both is not right.
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Very correct. We did ~300 kms in around 7 hours. I was in the backseat for at least 3.5 hours in total and the ride wasn't upto the mark. Though there was no problem with legroom or headroom (leg space was able to compensate for less headroom), the ride wasn't smooth enough. We had maintained prescribed tyre pressures during the journey. Ameyam I think you haven't taken the car 60+ kmph with 4 adults right? This is when the suspension starts showing its true colours. ![[:)]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Smile.gif "Smile [:)]")
For comparison, my Etios rides much better considering suspension effectiveness (ignoring space or seat comfort factor).
Regarding the service manual, it will list out all details (process) of doing every maintenance work. IIRC it list other steps like opening door pads, dashboard, claddings, etc. also, which the owner's manual doesn't cover. It is used by people working the accessory/workshop at MASS I think.
For comparison, my Etios rides much better considering suspension effectiveness (ignoring space or seat comfort factor).
Regarding the service manual, it will list out all details (process) of doing every maintenance work. IIRC it list other steps like opening door pads, dashboard, claddings, etc. also, which the owner's manual doesn't cover. It is used by people working the accessory/workshop at MASS I think.
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Hi
I have Booked the car on 25 Dec, in Nexa Rohan. Awating for the deliver
I have one question. in traditional car when we turn the key to ignition. the petrol pump, pump the petrol for 1 or 2 sec and prepare the engion to start by spark. in this push start button how does the car know when to start the petrol pump. How does it start?![[surprise]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Surprise.gif "Surprise [surprise]")
I have Booked the car on 25 Dec, in Nexa Rohan. Awating for the deliver
I have one question. in traditional car when we turn the key to ignition. the petrol pump, pump the petrol for 1 or 2 sec and prepare the engion to start by spark. in this push start button how does the car know when to start the petrol pump. How does it start?
Ice_wise,
Did plenty of runs with 2 adults upto 100 but not with 4 adults as yet. Tomorrow is a 3 adults 350km round trip coz mom wants to go to a marriage in Pune. My bigger concern is that the car shouldnt stall halfway on the expressway and strand us. For that reason i didnt send her with the driver. I have already noted it handles rougher when driven more spiritedly. Hopefully it wont be as bad as the Swift was at those speeds
Ameyam
Did plenty of runs with 2 adults upto 100 but not with 4 adults as yet. Tomorrow is a 3 adults 350km round trip coz mom wants to go to a marriage in Pune. My bigger concern is that the car shouldnt stall halfway on the expressway and strand us. For that reason i didnt send her with the driver. I have already noted it handles rougher when driven more spiritedly. Hopefully it wont be as bad as the Swift was at those speeds
Ameyam
Service manual covers entire car like engine rebuilding, ECM, wiring, suspension, brakes AC, ABS, air bags, etc etc.
Can anyone tell me if the fog lamps on the Baleno are same as the Swift. My Swift had great fog lamps & it was possible to do city driving with just those. But on the Baleno, illumination is low & i dont think those fog lamps will do anything in fog either. Anyone else observed this?
City driving doesn't really need fogs but i use them as a way to get the attention of neighbouring drivers and pedestrians without actually using full headlights. Thinking of getting aftermarket lamps with integral LED strips or something
Ameyam
City driving doesn't really need fogs but i use them as a way to get the attention of neighbouring drivers and pedestrians without actually using full headlights. Thinking of getting aftermarket lamps with integral LED strips or something
Ameyam
Get 4300k HIDs installed in foglamps. For a good quality kit, it will cost 3k. You can expect stock-like visibility in fog/rain and a lot better illumination on normal days.
I didn't find the foglamps of Baleno weak. OTOH I found Dzire's and Swift's foglamps to be weak.
I didn't find the foglamps of Baleno weak. OTOH I found Dzire's and Swift's foglamps to be weak.
Yes. I will try today on the way back. I didn't knew that DRLs can be switched off! My RM also said that they can't be switched off.
Actually due to the projector setup I am not able to exactly know the effectiveness of fogs. If you find the output to be lacking, get HIDs done there and it will serve well in city driving (no need of low beam).
Did you do anything for the car's horn?
One interesting thing - Baleno Alpha gets Osram Xenarc D2S HIDs which retail for ~10k in the market.![[clap]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Clap.gif "Clap [clap]")
Actually due to the projector setup I am not able to exactly know the effectiveness of fogs. If you find the output to be lacking, get HIDs done there and it will serve well in city driving (no need of low beam).
Did you do anything for the car's horn?
One interesting thing - Baleno Alpha gets Osram Xenarc D2S HIDs which retail for ~10k in the market.
One interesting thing - Baleno Alpha gets Osram Xenarc D2S HIDs which retail for ~10k in the market.
Its 4300K 25W bulb.
Cheers !!
I had spoken to the MASS several days back regarding the horn. The real problem is that the horn sits behind the bumper panel. So the sound energy doesn't have a di4ect route to the ambient. Thats whyvit sounds less
The MASS has offered to install the horn at 1st service
Ameyam
The MASS has offered to install the horn at 1st service
Ameyam