one cannot simply judge whether a car is good if the car has suffered major damage after a high speed crash.
Maruti Ertiga VS Mahindra Xylo
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I agree with vishwas and archit, a vehicle cannot be judged by the incident that took place where there would be many factors for that accidents to happen.
Same can happen to other cars as well and not just say Xylo in our comparision vehicle to Ertiga.
Same can happen to other cars as well and not just say Xylo in our comparision vehicle to Ertiga.
@Raj I agree that Xylo is more spacious than ertiga but not cramped as your picture suggests. I am a 6 footer and find it comfy but 3rd row is not comfy as Xylo. On mileage it returns 16 to 19 kms with AC 100% If you do not get some where there then you need to check your driving habit. My car returns better FE than my friends swift. We tested in our last trip of 600kms to and fro and also in Chennai b2b traffic.
Dear DJ Bro,
If you go about posting pics of accidents of Xylo, I can do the same with Ertiga as well.
Here you go -
Another one -
There are countless others. All it needs is a Google search. So lets not go into that.
Does that mean all Scorpios and Xylos which are driven on that road end up in a crash?
Bad logic, I must say.
There is a saying - with power comes responsibility. Manufacturers may give you power, it is your responsibility to use it wisely and responsibly, understanding the limitations of the vehicle.
Accidents happen because of the driver, not the vehicle.
A truck has poorer dynamics and worser suspension than a Xylo, how come every truck on that bridge doesn't crash?
So by looking at the pics of the Ertiga now, I hope you wont recommend the Ertiga to anyone anymore.
That's okay. I showed you a picture of mine seated in the middle row with the third row down. Its upto you to decide.
Are you saying that in Chennai b2b, you got 16-19 kmpl?
Thats a little difficult to believe, with no offense to you. Or else b2b traffic in Chennai maybe lighter than the traffic we have here in Mumbai.
My Punto having the same engine never gave anything more than 14 kmpl (with a very very gentle throttle) in b2b traffic. So, 19 kmpl seems questionable. Anyways, I wont debate on that.
You car maybe returning better FE than your friend's Swift simply because he maybe heavy on the throttle compared to you. Else technically, the Swift should return more FE.
By the way, FE is not the most important aspect for every customer. M&M offers more power and torque with the mHawk engine. Also, if you want FE, you can opt for the D2 or D4 variants with the mDi engine.
P.S.: I am not saying Ertiga is a bad car. It is a fine car for city dwellers if the average height of the family is not very tall. But if you really need a proper 7 seater and which is spacious as well, then the bigger UVs have their own advantages and disadvantages. Similar to every other car in the market, even the Ertiga has some disadvantages.
If you go about posting pics of accidents of Xylo, I can do the same with Ertiga as well.
Here you go -
Another one -
There are countless others. All it needs is a Google search. So lets not go into that.
Does that mean all Scorpios and Xylos which are driven on that road end up in a crash?
Bad logic, I must say.
There is a saying - with power comes responsibility. Manufacturers may give you power, it is your responsibility to use it wisely and responsibly, understanding the limitations of the vehicle.
Accidents happen because of the driver, not the vehicle.
A truck has poorer dynamics and worser suspension than a Xylo, how come every truck on that bridge doesn't crash?
The next pic is a Scorpio is on the Noida Expressway, Delhi at high speeds early morning when on the bridge, lost control, hit and dangling on the sidewall! With one or three alive people inside! Two people' including the driver were dead! RIP all!![[cry]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Cry.gif "Cry [cry]")
so I dont recommend these two cars to anyone, but even if you buy it, dont drive too fast and fasten your seatbelts all the time!
so I dont recommend these two cars to anyone, but even if you buy it, dont drive too fast and fasten your seatbelts all the time!
That's okay. I showed you a picture of mine seated in the middle row with the third row down. Its upto you to decide.
Are you saying that in Chennai b2b, you got 16-19 kmpl?
Thats a little difficult to believe, with no offense to you. Or else b2b traffic in Chennai maybe lighter than the traffic we have here in Mumbai.
My Punto having the same engine never gave anything more than 14 kmpl (with a very very gentle throttle) in b2b traffic. So, 19 kmpl seems questionable. Anyways, I wont debate on that.
You car maybe returning better FE than your friend's Swift simply because he maybe heavy on the throttle compared to you. Else technically, the Swift should return more FE.
By the way, FE is not the most important aspect for every customer. M&M offers more power and torque with the mHawk engine. Also, if you want FE, you can opt for the D2 or D4 variants with the mDi engine.
P.S.: I am not saying Ertiga is a bad car. It is a fine car for city dwellers if the average height of the family is not very tall. But if you really need a proper 7 seater and which is spacious as well, then the bigger UVs have their own advantages and disadvantages. Similar to every other car in the market, even the Ertiga has some disadvantages.
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Hey Raj no car is safe in India. Maruti has a bad metal sheets it would dent even if you press hard. In that case Mahindra has better build but not the plastics. FE realy matters a lot for many if you keep a poll you might know. City riding conditions I felt both were good. The FE what I mentioned is in Chennai city. I lived in Mumbai for 4 years so I know how the traffic works there. If you yield low FE then your driving practise might not be correct or your car has some issue. I am reaching 10k kms my lowest FE was 15kmpl and highest was 19kmpl in Chennai. Punto might have same engine but not same refinement.
Guyz,
The ertiga accident shown in the above images (beneath the bridge) is actually my wife's senior manager car.it happened a year ago, he died on the spot.his wife and 2 kids (including a 3 month old baby) seated in the 2nd and 3rd row suffered injuries and are ok now.
It happened when he lost control and doing 120km/hr in that state highway.he bought that just a month before that accident.
The ertiga accident shown in the above images (beneath the bridge) is actually my wife's senior manager car.it happened a year ago, he died on the spot.his wife and 2 kids (including a 3 month old baby) seated in the 2nd and 3rd row suffered injuries and are ok now.
It happened when he lost control and doing 120km/hr in that state highway.he bought that just a month before that accident.
Well, If you have ever been to Kerala on the Coimabtore- Palakkad highway, you can see many Innovas and even buses struggling hard while our LUV didn't even bottom out in those craters and easily passed them! Those drivers you had seen were new to the car and first we would have the sense that it is a small car as it doesn't drive or handle like a big, body rolling car! We also had a feeling like that, but when we learnt it, it was whole lot better than the bouncy-bouncy Xylo! I guessed right that you won't agree on the pics! Well, the Ertiga has much better safe suspension and is rock solid composed at speeds till 150kmph! And also is safer than the Xylo as I have seen many accidents of various cars!
Well, I say, if hit by a truck or at high speeds, no car is safe, but in these, cases if there was a Mahindra Xylo, it would have been worse! These pics were driver's faults but we too drive it fast, It hasnt felt uncomfortable and unsafe...while in the Xylo, you can feel it's unsafe right in the moment you press the brakes in traffic signals! It totally leaps front! And to make a point, the Mahindra has never been tested for crash! Ya Alto, 800 and and cheaper cars of Maruti are weak, bu not the Swift and the Ertiga, I have seen more pics of such bad condition Ertigas! and of Xylo too! In most cases of the Ertiga, there have never been accidents due to "out of control" mostly and not much casualities! In the first pic you posted, only the driver was killed and in many cases, all were safe, except very few careless driving cases! I told you I have reviewed all these cars and picked the right choice for me! I would even accept the Xylo only if it's suspension and handling was safer and interiors better with some tuning for better efficiency! But as a family, safe car, I would go always for the Ertiga!
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Here is the crash test of the 2011 Swift Euro Ncap 5 stars! So is the Ertiga which is based on that and has been given extra metal sheets and box section steels!â–º 2011 Suzuki Swift - CRASH TEST - YouTube Latest Suzukis are not so weak and cheap! XUV scored just 4 stars, so what about the Xylo?
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Adding to this futher , i have observed that eritgas struggle to get going on steep incline whereas a xylo or the scorpio have no such problems.
I know i am not being fair comparing a 1.3L engine to the 2.2L Mhawk or Meagle , but then when put into comparison, these things will always come up.
I know i am not being fair comparing a 1.3L engine to the 2.2L Mhawk or Meagle , but then when put into comparison, these things will always come up.
Ok, its true you have to work a bit uphill, but what is the harm in that when you get other things right? You get more than enough power and efficiency on the highways instead in the Ertiga!
Lolzzzzz Raj,![[lol]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Laugh.gif "Laugh [lol]")
I have seen many more and if it was a Xylo, would have been worse! I was just suggesting that the suspension is the culprit and it is also a major part of the safety! In fact I have posted these and many such pics in other thread! Proved that the LUV is safer!
I have seen many more and if it was a Xylo, would have been worse! I was just suggesting that the suspension is the culprit and it is also a major part of the safety! In fact I have posted these and many such pics in other thread! Proved that the LUV is safer!
DJ Bro,
The Swift you are quoting here is an European spec Swift with side airbags, head airbags, knee airbags and additional re-inforcement. Dont expect the same from the Indian Swift.
Moreover, just because the Swift scored good rating, dont expect the same from the Ertiga. It is absurd.
You need efficiency and ride comfort, its okay.
But there are others who need power, more space and ruggedness. The Xylo is for them.
There you go... again assumptions!
Proved? Based on your assumptions?
The Swift you are quoting here is an European spec Swift with side airbags, head airbags, knee airbags and additional re-inforcement. Dont expect the same from the Indian Swift.
Moreover, just because the Swift scored good rating, dont expect the same from the Ertiga. It is absurd.
You need efficiency and ride comfort, its okay.
But there are others who need power, more space and ruggedness. The Xylo is for them.
Lolzzzzz Raj, I have seen many more and if it was a Xylo, would have been worse!
I have seen many more and if it was a Xylo, would have been worse!
Proved? Based on your assumptions?
Not assumptions, but truth! You being a Team BHPian sir, would have noticed that how many casualties are caused in the Ertiga? and even though, the Euro Swift has all those airbags mentioned, the impact was frontal and even without knee airbags, the passengers would have survived with minor injuries! Ya it is proved as both have the same chassis along with extra metal sections and rigid construction and handling and ride is way better than the Xylo and for your info, the highway performance of the Ertiga is awesome! AUTOCARindia has given 6/10 for Xylo against Innova and Ertiga's 8/10 for safety because SUSPENSION CONTROL AND HANDLING ALSO MATTERS (they mentioned it)! But any car hit at very high speeds, are very pliable and get crushed! But the suspension of Xylo is way too soft for safe highway drives and need to control speeds!
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Well, enough of this stupid debate! I dont want to argue on silly matters! Everyone have their liberty to choose what they want, but I suggest them to choose what they want after reviewing thoroughly and know the limits of their car! Drive safe! Be safe!![[drive]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Drive.gif "Drive [drive]")