Maruti Ertiga VS Mahindra Xylo

[Simple_car]

I am looking for a used 7 seater car in my native place and I would personally pick a Xylo over an Ertiga because it offers more space, more GC and is more rugged for abuse. Plus it has a more powerful engine to pull 7 people comfortably. So you see, your priorities are efficiency, ride and handling. Mine are space, GC, power and ruggedness. Also, priorities change with respect to the purpose you are buying the car for.

I don't know what are the prices of used vehicles in your native, but your options will be pretty limited to xylo/ertiga/sumo/quanto/ A very high mileage innova.

Of the above and considering your requirements, if you can get a well maintained xylo, nothing better.
However, if you are going to use the rear most seats occasionally only, I think quanto makes a good case for itself. I can confirm that the engine is powerful enough to haul the 7 people with ease, and the car takes abuse really well. However, finding one in the used market will be a pain for sure.

Another good car is the grande sumo / sumo gold. I liked these cars personally. I believe that these are pretty reliable products on the whole.

Thanks,
Simple_car

 

[vu2gte]

In my opinion Mahindra tends to throw parts together to hope that it will turn into a car. Maruti is leagues ahead and I cannot ever see it catching up the majority in this country tend to lap up inferior products allowing companies like Mahindra Tatas and fiat even to convince themselves that they are actually building good products

 

[K!NkY]

Guys arguing on vehicle saftey between ertiga and xylo is limited. Raja if you have any link to say Xylo is better car than ertiga let us know. Japanese cars are not stronger than German or American cars but Mahindra is far better in metal build than Maruti. Ertiga's ingress and egress is easier than Xylo. The ride and handling of Ertiga is better in highway than Xylo. I was in a travel with Ertiga and Xylo today. Xylo wad hired as taxi. My family had a visit to ISKON temple in ECR. so we were 13 people so hired Xylo along with my Ertiga. Most of them started vomiting and were tired as the travel was bouncy like a boat. everyone started complaining and want to travel in my Ertiga. My mom for a change travelled in Xylo on way return trip to home. My mom said thank God you did not buy XYLO as my first choice was Xylo before buying Ertiga. As I said earlier I am not trying to praise Maruti or its product but its ride and handling has improved a lot than other cars. It is true to fact that Xylo is more spacious than Ertiga. But FE is realy bad when compared with Ertiga. Is int FE a main factor in India? If you say NO means you are lying.

 

[DJ bro]

Well kinky, the build of Ertiga is better than the Xylo! Even you dont understand that? Alto may be weak terribly, doesnt mean all Suzuki's are weak! I think you all seriously have to see for yourself or read AUTOCAR! I have done both!

However, if you are going to use the rear most seats occasionally only, I think quanto makes a good case for itself. I can confirm that the engine is powerful enough to haul the 7 people with ease, and the car takes abuse really well.

Well Simple car, for those who want rear seat priority wont ever go for Quanto as the rear seats are like a Bus bench, upright and hard! The Xylo has far better seats, wonder why Mahindra has changed the seats in Quanto! I agree the Quanto will take abuse better, but performance is slower than what you would expect for a 100bhp 1.5 motor, because its just 3 cylinder engine with a two stage turbo! Though it will be better for the city and not a good 7 seater!

 

[DJ bro]

In my opinion Mahindra tends to throw parts together to hope that it will turn into a car. Maruti is leagues ahead and I cannot ever see it catching up the majority in this country tend to lap up inferior products allowing companies like Mahindra Tatas and fiat even to convince themselves that they are actually building good products

Not quite vu2gte, no car is perfect! Mahindra and Tata are Indian companies that have come a long way from trucks and tractors! But still they have to catch up and improve in terms of better engineering and finesse! Tata gives good comfortable cars and great value choices whereas Mahindra gives hardy SUV's and MUV's for bad roads, but still, they have to improve their engineering in terms of quality, reliability and service (for Tata) and dynamics (for Mahindra)! Lets just support them and soon they will catch up to global markets!

 

[DJ bro]

Just now while having dinner, my dad said he traveled in a Xylo today for office work, he said even though the captain seats were comfortable, the parts were weak and the ride made him sick and giddy!

 

[saby]

Xylo __________ Ertiga

_________________ 2.2l mHawk __________ 1.3l DDIS
Power __________ 120/ 4000 rpm __________ 89/ 4000 rpm
Torque __________ 280/ 2400-2800 rpm __________ 200/ 1750 rpm
->Weight __________ 1830 kg __________ 1235 kg
Power/Wt __________ 66 __________72
Torque/Wt __________ 153 __________ 162

Not being sarcastic, but can anyone please tell me how Xylo have more power to pull 7 people??
I can compare and vote for both cars as-
Space- Xylo all the way
Refinement- Ertiga, generations ahead
Handling- Ertiga, way better
Seating comfort- Depends on an individual what kind of seats he/she prefers
Riding comfort- Xylo and Vomiting are so closely related, specially on hills!! It's too bouncy for its middle row and last row passengers
G.C- Ertiga has 5mm more than Xylo
Manufacture- Depends on an individual. how much he/she considers its s.network.
Mileage- Don't know about Xylo, but Ertiga gives very good numbers
Safety- Totally depends on the driver. Airbags/ Safety rods won't help you if you take the car into a gorge. I drive my Ertiga and Zen in TOTALLY different ways.
If you are driving a car, you MUST know its limits.

 

[raj_5004]

I don't know what are the prices of used vehicles in your native, but your options will be pretty limited to xylo/ertiga/sumo/quanto/ A very high mileage innova.
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Thanks,
Simple_car

We need the 7 seats and the boot, so Quanto is not an option.

Again, Sumo has a very utilitarian image, so I am not keen on buying it as a family car.

In my opinion Mahindra tends to throw parts together to hope that it will turn into a car. Maruti is leagues ahead and I cannot ever see it catching up the majority in this country tend to lap up inferior products allowing companies like Mahindra Tatas and fiat even to convince themselves that they are actually building good products

I am amused by your comment and would refrain from commenting on this!

But I would still like to know which Tata/Mahindra/Fiat product have you used?

Well kinky, the build of Ertiga is better than the Xylo! Even you dont understand that? Alto may be weak terribly, doesnt mean all Suzuki's are weak! I think you all seriously have to see for yourself or read AUTOCAR! I have done both!

Its high time you get out of the shell ACI has created for you. There is a big world outside ACI, a world of real experiences and ownership reviews.

G.C- Ertiga has 5mm more than Xylo

Not again!

Safety- Totally depends on the driver. Airbags/ Safety rods won't help you if you take the car into a gorge. I drive my Ertiga and Zen in TOTALLY different ways.
If you are driving a car, you MUST know its limits.

+100.

 

[Vishwas]

Adding to this futher , i have observed that eritgas struggle to get going on steep incline whereas a xylo or the scorpio have no such problems.

I know i am not being fair comparing a 1.3L engine to the 2.2L Mhawk or Meagle , but then when put into comparison, these things will always come up.

True, my enjoy can easily smoke out the ertiga in the ghats why? Because all these cars are RWD and i think it is understood the advantages of having an RWD.

This debate was and is not stupid. Nobody enjoys arguing on silly matters. You trust Maruti a lot. If you only knew the reality, you wouldn't be so sure.

Nobody is arguing that the ertiga doesn't have bad suspension/handling. It is a given. However, everybody buys a car as per their requirements and budget.

As long as you are happy with the ertiga, everybody is as well. What I can only do is request you not to assume things. Accidents happen due to a lot of factors. You say that the ertiga's handling and suspension will ensure that one may be able to avoid an accident (or whatever else), you still can never be sure. Even the german saloons which boast of high safety features will never guarantee that you will come out alive post accident.

Absolutely. At the end of the day it's the game with the fate which humans choose and not to blame on poor car.

I can also put forth another perspective: Ertiga's good handling will tempt me to drive at high speeds on the highways (even though it is unsafe). Xylo's boat like handling (which is anyways over-hyped) will ensure that I will never drive fast in the first place, hence 'theoretically' reducing the chances of an accident or my survival chances if one were to occur. It's just a perspective. Don't take it in a literal sense.

Quite true and a real life example of my father who fears a lot to drive his sister's scorpio

Guys arguing on vehicle saftey between ertiga and xylo is limited. Raja if you have any link to say Xylo is better car than ertiga let us know. Japanese cars are not stronger than German or American cars but Mahindra is far better in metal build than Maruti. Ertiga's ingress and egress is easier than Xylo.
.. It is true to fact that Xylo is more spacious than Ertiga. But FE is realy bad when compared with Ertiga. Is int FE a main factor in India? If you say NO means you are lying.

Agree Xylo is a problematic car for the ones who has nauseous sensation because of the diesel clatters, Ertiga is smooth.

In my opinion Mahindra tends to throw parts together to hope that it will turn into a car. Maruti is leagues ahead and I cannot ever see it catching up the majority in this country tend to lap up inferior products allowing companies like Mahindra Tatas and fiat even to convince themselves that they are actually building good products

If you go to the rural part of India where the there are no roads and those bumpy hilly regions, you'll regret buying a Maruti why? Because of the presence of typical rattling issue and fear of the vehicle getting abused, While in Mahindra and Tata, you can easily go around places and you seriously need to take out the perception of Mahindra's throwing inferior products.

 

[Simple_car]

In my opinion Mahindra tends to throw parts together to hope that it will turn into a car. Maruti is leagues ahead and I cannot ever see it catching up the majority in this country tend to lap up inferior products allowing companies like Mahindra Tatas and fiat even to convince themselves that they are actually building good products

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Guys arguing on vehicle saftey between ertiga and xylo is limited... As I said earlier I am not trying to praise Maruti or its product but its ride and handling has improved a lot than other cars.

Read the comments earlier thoroughly before posting. There was no debate on who is the winner w.r.t. handling and suspension. I was just requesting people to refrain commenting on aspects on which there is no proof yet. That's all. You, me or anybody else cannot predict how any car will behave in an accident. There are far too many factors involved, and this topic is best left to the experts.

But FE is realy bad when compared with Ertiga

Definitely true.

Well Simple car, for those who want rear seat priority wont ever go for Quanto as the rear seats are like a Bus bench, upright and hard! The Xylo has far better seats, wonder why Mahindra has changed the seats in Quanto!

Read my comments carefully before posting. I had clearly stated that the xylo was a better choice. Try fitting the xylo's rear bench in the quanto...then maybe you can see why mahindra put the jump seats like that.

I agree the Quanto will take abuse better, but performance is slower than what you would expect for a 100bhp 1.5 motor, because its just 3 cylinder engine with a two stage turbo! Though it will be better for the city and not a good 7 seater!

Once again, read what Mr. Raj's requirements are: Abuse friendliness is a priority. Mahindra products will be a better bet than a maruti for sure. Power in such conditions has no value. Ertiga is no good 7 seater as well (Please...I have both ertiga and quanto in my home.. The rear most seats are ok for short trips or for small kids...likewise in the quanto).

he said even though the captain seats were comfortable, the parts were weak and the ride made him sick and giddy!

Once again you are assuming that I do not agree on the handling department. Please ask your dad what he means by 'parts are weak'.

Xylo __________ Ertiga

_________________ 2.2l mHawk __________ 1.3l DDIS


Not being sarcastic, but can anyone please tell me how Xylo have more power to pull 7 people??

Your answer is stated above in your own stats. The humble tata sumo gold with just 83 bhp under hood then is surely incapable of hauling people then according to your thoughts??

The displacement of an engine matters when you use a car for hauling people / towing anything.

G.C- Ertiga has 5mm more than Xylo

Not again man.. I think this is going nowhere. Peace out..

Safety- Totally depends on the driver. Airbags/ Safety rods won't help you if you take the car into a gorge. I drive my Ertiga and Zen in TOTALLY different ways.
If you are driving a car, you MUST know its limits.

 

[Raja]

In my opinion Mahindra tends to throw parts together to hope that it will turn into a car.

This is one of the most outrageous statement I have ever read on an automobile forum .

Guys arguing on vehicle saftey between ertiga and xylo is limited.

If it is so , then what is the point in showing accident pics and claiming xylo is unsafe or ertiga is safe car ?

Raja if you have any link to say Xylo is better car than ertiga let us know. .

Can you show me one post in this thread were I have said xylo is a better car then Ertiga ?

Rather in the poll I have voted for ertiga and I have said this too

Peace of mind , relatively superior in reliability , easy to drive in city , easy to drive for ladies , relatively superior a.s.s . Better fit and finish . Better for a urban family . And far better mileage per liter . Also petrol option available who need a big car but don't travel much .
Hands down ertiga no contest atleast for me .

And now Did you read my post properly ? Iam re posting again for you .

Exactly what I will get to read ?

And Can you also tell me a source were I and others can read why the xylo is inherently a unsafe car mechanically please ?

It's not me who has claimed that xylo is a better or unsafe or safe car . The onus is on the person who claims so that xylo is a unsafe car to prove that what he is claiming is true .
Incase you have some link provide us which proves that the xylo is mechanically a unsafe car it will be highly appreciated . Thanx

 

[saby]

Your answer is stated above in your own stats. The humble tata sumo gold with just 83 bhp under hood then is surely incapable of hauling people then according to your thoughts??
The displacement of an engine matters when you use a car for hauling people / towing anything.

So weight plays no/ not so considerable role here?

F=ma,
a=F/m
acceleration= Force acting on an object/ mass of an object
Acceleration is inversely proportional to mass.
Of course everyone knows this law, I'm not trying to act like anything here, but why did you completely ignored the huge diff. in weight?? While there is considerable amount of difference in bhp/ton numbers of these two cars.
A car with more weight will naturally require more power just to move its parts,

Not again man.. I think this is going nowhere. Peace out..

I must've missed it if this has already been discussed.

 

[Simple_car]

So weight plays no/ not so considerable role here?
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Of course everyone knows this law, I'm not trying to act like anything here, but why did you completely ignored the huge diff. in weight?? While there is considerable amount of difference in bhp/ton numbers of these two cars.
A car with more weight will naturally require more power just to move its parts,

Well, this will be way too technical for me to handle...never was good in physics anyways.

However, I do understand some basics. Hauling/towing does not mean you require acceleration. A larger displacement engine is the prime requirement (this is what I have been made to understand by my cousin who works with an Indian auto company and these have been my observations of all towing vehicles I have come across the globe) for hauling. Those cars are not meant to be driven at speeds or are not intended to accelerate fast.

Of course, the weight of the vehicle itself matters, but not so much as you may think.

There are a lot of engines which are less than 1.6 litres in displacement, but are a lot more powerful and efficient than their bigger siblings. These engines are never fitted in vehicles which are intended to be hauler's or which are to be used as tow vehicles. This is just a general rule, and case to case scenarios will definitely vary.

These hauler's or towing vehicles come into their own when you have to carry huge loads on ghats or treacherous roads. You may say that the ertiga is also used by people in himalayan areas in India, and they are doing well.. I will and do agree with you. However, the car has to be worked upon a lot on these roads. The innova/tavera/xylo/sumo type cars are seriously easier to drive in these conditions. I was in ladakh 2 years back and I remember a local dealer from tata had brought the then new aria to the taxi cab operators for demo. The first question of all the operators was the displacement. Many just rejected the car based solely on the displacement. Of course, some were impressed and did end up booking one...it was fun watching the scenario as a tourist.

As I said, I will not be able to explain this in technical terms myself, since I am not so technically inclined; however, this is what I have been made to understand and this also matches my observations. Exceptions are always going to be a rule.

You will not miss the displacement as long you drive on plains and on good roads.
My cousin did mention that things will definitely change in the future and globally manufacturers are working on tech which will make the bigger displacement engines obsolete, but it still a long way.

So mass of the vehicle is a factor, but not as important as you may think.

 

[vu2gte]

Tatas think that have been making cars if I remember correctly since 1994 in my opinion they have been making very small trucks. I run a small workshop so I have driven and repaired a wide range of cars. I replaced my polo with an ertiga which I bought without even taking a td and in the 10 months that I have had it and using it for very long trips 1300 kms continuous driving I don't regret the purchase.

 

[raj_5004]

Tatas think that have been making cars if I remember correctly since 1994 in my opinion they have been making very small trucks. I run a small workshop so I have driven and repaired a wide range of cars.

You have not answered my query. I asked you - which Tata or M&M cars have you owned or extensively driven?

Let's not get into what Tata thinks. Does it make sense if I say -

Maruti thinks they make cars whereas they are manufacturing boxes made of tin foil and sometimes cardboard...

By the way, I dont feel like that about Maruti because I know that if they are a successful manufacturer (like TATA and M&M), they must be catering to a particular segment of customers who are happy with their products.

Let me tell you, I will never ever buy a Maruti product, I have my own reasons for it. But I am not against Maruti. I know a lot of owners in this forum who swear by their Maruti cars. I know it keeps them happy and that is what matters... not what me and you think.

Secondly, you have repaired and driven a wide range of cars... does that mean you are well versed with every car which these manufacturers make? If a manufacturer does not make a car of your choice or priority, is it crap?

I replaced my polo with an ertiga which I bought without even taking a td and in the 10 months that I have had it and using it for very long trips 1300 kms continuous driving I don't regret the purchase.

Very good. Similarly, there are many satisfied and happy owners of TATA and M&M in this forum who do not regret their purchase.

I must've missed it if this has already been discussed.

No problemo sir...

Here it is -

Ground clearance:

Ertiga - 185 mm
Xylo - 186 mm

Source:
Maruti Suzuki Ertiga
Mahindra XYLO | Best MUV in India | Multi Utility Vehicle | XYLO Review | MUV Cars India

This is inspite of the fact that Xylo is a RWD vehicle and hence has a rear differential. So, Xylo's GC will be shown lesser on paper.

So effectively, Xylo's GC (approx 190 mm) is more than Ertiga's.