Mahindra Scorpio: Technical Issues & Solutions

[mukeshus]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Hi raj_5004, I know that scorpio's engine is more powerful than Santro's engine. My driving habit has not been changed and the steep is very similar in both the cases. That was the reason I raised this question whether anything has been tampered in the engine during earlier service :( . If it has been done, how do I have to check and confirm that the engine has been tweaked by service people for some reason which I don't know.

In diesel engines you must be in turbo range i.e. above 2000 rpm. Pulling will be effortless.
What I think you would have done with santro is pressing the clutch and accelerate,in order to have the momentum to move.
There is nothing they can scratch near the engine.
Post a pic of the engine bay if possible.

 

[tornado78]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Buddy, every car from every manufacturer has its strengths and weaknesses.

But what is missing from Tata and Mahindra is their service quality. Whatever training they do give, do not get translated properly at the dealer level. Most of the dealers are to blame here

They always over commit and do not have enough resources (skilled manpower, infrastructure at their facilities etc)

I also heard that companies like Toyota & Honda give enough share of profit to dealers. You can see that their showrooms are world class, neat and have good customer centric facilities.

IMO, most of the profits from vehicle sales directly go to Indian car manufacturers like M&M, Tata etc. Dealers have lesser money to invest in better showrooms, service facilities and hire best technical people from the market.

But, Mahindra's customer care is getting better. Most of the issues are resolved after escalation. But dealers should resolve at their front rather than getting strict orders from manufacturer

One day, I want to see homegrown companies like Tata & Mahindra out do their counterparts not only in sales, but also in service and value addition to customers.

yes tata and mahindra both are improving. but still they need to do a lot of work for better ass.

well i must not say too many things on mahindra vehicles now as they are also equally not so good products as tatas.

i knew scorp has several issues and it has been documented here by various owners.
but a good thing is that both companies are learning and improving product by product. like for tata from indigo to manza. from siera to aria.
same for mahindra bolero to scorp and from scorp to xuv. although they still need to do a lot in aria and xuv.

someone mentioned pulling on hills and my suggestion is scorp is very much capable and you better check your vehicle completely for that sluggishness. may be an issue of clutch.

as a scorpio pulls cleanly even in second gear from standstill on an inclune around 15% without using the accelerator. this is my personal expwrience.

 

[rajscorpion]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Thanks mukeshus and tornado78, for your suggestions :). I will post my engine area. As suggested I will check with service engineer from Mahindra when I give for service about whether the problem could be due to clutch. I should be able to update you after that.

 

[mukeshus]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Hi guys after a week i took Hawk for a spin, now i am hearing some noise from the front suspension.

Some grinding noise from left front suspension, when i am parking the vehicle when the steering position is to the extereme right.

I am facing this after they recently changing the stabiliser link rod.

Does this have any connection with the issue i am having.

Also the air throw is less @at rear, which we never used to use the air speed beyond 2.

But now with 3 speed there is less air throw.

 

[ilango[speed thirst]]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Check whole of lower arm , tie rod ends etc , suspension etc.

 

[mukeshus]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Check whole of lower arm , tie rod ends etc , suspension etc.

Thanks for the info Ilango.

 

[mukeshus]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Check whole of lower arm , tie rod ends etc , suspension etc.

Ilango when i used these words the SA was like how you know this sir?

However issue was with the stopper bolt that were replaced recently that was touching the front rod like structure that is connected to the steering wheel.

That had came loose.


This one to be precise


Of the AC filter was cleaned and placed.

Now there is improvement in air throw,but not what i used to have earlier.

 

[sudharshang]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Since second free service (10,000 km) of my vehicle, I hear a squealing sound when brakes are applied (like that of buses and lorries). The sound comes from front brakes.

It happens with slow/moderate/sudden braking at all speeds

Every time I mention this during service, they do something called "OCA Brake Cleaning", which costs Rs.900 and the noise would disappear for one week. After that, it resumes.

I travel 90 km a day on good roads and travel at 100 km/h average. I don't do sudden brakings and gradually accelerate/decelerate.

Any help is greatly appreciated

Current ODO is 32,000 km in 1 year 1 month.

 

[mukeshus]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Since second free service (10,000 km) of my vehicle, I hear a squealing sound when brakes are applied (like that of buses and lorries). The sound comes from front brakes.

It happens with slow/moderate/sudden braking at all speeds

Every time I mention this during service, they do something called "OCA Brake Cleaning", which costs Rs.900 and the noise would disappear for one week. After that, it resumes.

I travel 90 km a day on good roads and travel at 100 km/h average. I don't do sudden brakings and gradually accelerate/decelerate.

Any help is greatly appreciated

Current ODO is 32,000 km in 1 year 1 month.

Ditto here, it has nothing to do with functioning.

Hope the brake bite is normal, i think the brake pads need a change.

After all you have clocked so much in a year, good to know that.

But the squealing noise in my Hawk is occasional.

 

[sudharshang]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Yes Mukesh, the sound has nothing to do with functioning. The brakes work properly, no issues in that

During 25k service, they replaced the front Brake Calipers under warranty. The SA also advised me to buy a Brake Cleaner and apply/spray it on the disc area of front tyres before power washing the car. He said it would help reduce the noise.

He also said that all disc brakes from Mahindra have this problem. Even XUV owners have reported it seems. But I doubt his comments

Do Scorpios with drum brakes on all tyres do not experience this problem? Is it only with disc brakes?

 

[mukeshus]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Yes Mukesh, the sound has nothing to do with functioning. The brakes work properly, no issues in that

During 25k service, they replaced the front Brake Calipers under warranty. The SA also advised me to buy a Brake Cleaner and apply/spray it on the disc area of front tyres before power washing the car. He said it would help reduce the noise.

He also said that all disc brakes from Mahindra have this problem. Even XUV owners have reported it seems. But I doubt his comments

Do Scorpios with drum brakes on all tyres do not experience this problem? Is it only with disc brakes?

It happens when i have not used the vehicle for 3-4 days.

But the squeals is from Disc brakes, not the rear drum brakes.

Its not an issue, just up the windows and run the vehicle.

Because changing Calipers won't solve the problem, or they would have just cleaned the calipers and say that they have changed it.

Check with the condition of brake pads around 35,000 kms as in the next stage they will wear out the discs if not changed on time.

 

[2teja]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Folks, I've been facing a couple of problems with my SLE.

1st: The other day when I started my Scorpio, I tried adjusting the ORVMs, but they were not responding, all four power windows weren't responding, and the A/C and Fan blower weren't switching on. However, the head unit and speakers were very much working. I happened to be close to Mahindra's workshop in Okhla and hence promptly went there. Had a word with their SA, and he merely locked the car and then unlocked it using the remote, and all electricals came to life. He said, the car loses its memory and if it happens again, just repeat the same procedure of locking and unlocking. It has happened twice again, but what exactly is this peculiar problem?

2nd: Like I'd mentioned a few months ago, my front windows went kaput and were replaced under warranty. And now, the rear windows have become problematic and has it's own mood, works only at times. Hope to get this replaced under warranty too.

Also, a suggestion to folks owning Mahindra vehicles; do get you extended warranty. My Scorpio's gets expired in Oct'2012 and planning to get it done during my next visit to the workshop, next month.

P.S: Mukesh and Raj and the other expert fellas, any piece of advice for problem number one?

 

[mukeshus]

Re: Number of Problems in Mahindra Scorpio

Folks, I've been facing a couple of problems with my SLE.

1st: The other day when I started my Scorpio, I tried adjusting the ORVMs, but they were not responding, all four power windows weren't responding, and the A/C and Fan blower weren't switching on. However, the head unit and speakers were very much working. I happened to be close to Mahindra's workshop in Okhla and hence promptly went there. Had a word with their SA, and he merely locked the car and then unlocked it using the remote, and all electricals came to life. He said, the car loses its memory and if it happens again, just repeat the same procedure of locking and unlocking. It has happened twice again, but what exactly is this peculiar problem?


P.S: Mukesh and Raj and the other expert fellas, any piece of advice for problem number one?

Just ask your SA whether your Scorpio has derived its genes from Ghajini, for memory loss.
For the blower not working, check the resistor behind the Glove box department.
And see whether dust has acccumulated, as that was the actual cause of resistor being fried up in my case.
These are symptoms that caused the AC to fail, because of dust being accumulated in blower, get the filter of AC cleaned.
Newer hawk's have filter behind the left wiper blades.

Also the AC blower knob may have got lose, get it checked.

If you feel AC is not adequate, get the AC coil cleaned with a jet of water.
Also get the radiator externally sprayed with water, so that dust if any will be cleaned and cooling becomes faster.

Mine is a manual Mirror folding, so no comments on that.

Rear right Power window only on one occasion in heavy rain was not working, they changed the power window motor, switch under warranty.

I have never faced such a situation.

 

[ullasissac]

Mahindra Scorpio emitting white smoke.

Hello... I am using a 2005 model scorpio turbo 2.6. done 84k. I am facing some problems. Can any one help?

It started with oil leaking through EGR valve.
Now the vehicle emitts white and black smoke.
Engine rpm rises automatically and will come down after some time when switching off the ignition key. When started again it emitted a lot of white smoke. The Local mechanic told it as a faulty turbo. When shown in the ASC they said it was because of a clogged oil seperator and changed it. but the same problem is there. They said there is no problem with the turbo and the fuel injector pump. Now they are telling the engine piston rings are weak so I need to change it. Earlier the service engineer told my vehicle is running smooth. Next day he says engine is faulty. Sounds crazy. The vehicle has good pickup and no power loss is felt.

My doubt is whether MAHINDRA SCORPIO will get engine complaints in 84k.
Will the engine rpm rise if the rings are weak?
Will there be any other reasons causing these problems?
Any one knows any good mechanic in bangalore?

 

[mukeshus]

Re: Mahindra Scorpio emitting white smoke.

Hello... I am using a 2005 model scorpio turbo 2.6. done 84k. I am facing some problems. Can any one help?

It started with oil leaking through EGR valve.
Now the vehicle emitts white and black smoke.
Engine rpm rises automatically and will come down after some time when switching off the ignition key. When started again it emitted a lot of white smoke. The Local mechanic told it as a faulty turbo. When shown in the ASC they said it was because of a clogged oil seperator and changed it. but the same problem is there. They said there is no problem with the turbo and the fuel injector pump. Now they are telling the engine piston rings are weak so I need to change it. Earlier the service engineer told my vehicle is running smooth. Next day he says engine is faulty. Sounds crazy. The vehicle has good pickup and no power loss is felt.

My doubt is whether MAHINDRA SCORPIO will get engine complaints in 84k.
Will the engine rpm rise if the rings are weak?
Will there be any other reasons causing these problems?
Any one knows any good mechanic in bangalore?

Hi Ullasissac Welcome to TAI, I consulted one of my friend who owns a crde 2.6, and is doing 2,96000 Kms with his Scorpio.
His questions were , does the white smoke comes continuously or only when you start the car??

First try to change the fuel filter, ask them to remove the fuel reservoir and clean it , he cautioned that piston rings doesn't needs overhaul so early.

If white smoke comes continuously then it means piston rings would have worn out.

If its problem with turbo, then you will get whining sound continuously.

Where did you drop your vehicle for rectifying the problem.

Try SKS auto, they know the problem and have experience in solving the same.