Hyundai ix25 Compact SUV Named Creta
- Thread Starter Raja
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Yes - the 17inch diamond cut alloys are only available on the SX (O) - though one can get those fitted on the SX. That said, there will be an error adjustment needed to the spedo meter and will the void the warranty ?
Boot space is decent, not class leading.
The Creta looks amazing, has a great presence and is loaded to the brim with features. The engines are amazing, what needs testing is the ride quality
And this is the automatic !
Boot space is decent, not class leading.
The Creta looks amazing, has a great presence and is loaded to the brim with features. The engines are amazing, what needs testing is the ride quality
And this is the automatic !
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Hello sokratus,
1. Considering the wheel bay size, yes the steel rim/ silver alloy can be replaced by the machined alloys available in the top trim SX(O).
2. The tyres needs to be replaced along with the rims, since the machined alloys have a larger diameter of 17" as compared to a smaller 16" steel rims.
3. The speedometer will through an error of 7% roughly if the wheels are upsized.
Eg:- If your vehicle is running at 100 KMPH the speedometer will show 107 KMPH.
4. Modern day speedometers works on VSS(Vehilcle Speed Sensors) so they are made to a tolerance of +-10%.
I hope you find this info useful.
Regards
Car's Paradise
1. Considering the wheel bay size, yes the steel rim/ silver alloy can be replaced by the machined alloys available in the top trim SX(O).
2. The tyres needs to be replaced along with the rims, since the machined alloys have a larger diameter of 17" as compared to a smaller 16" steel rims.
3. The speedometer will through an error of 7% roughly if the wheels are upsized.
Eg:- If your vehicle is running at 100 KMPH the speedometer will show 107 KMPH.
4. Modern day speedometers works on VSS(Vehilcle Speed Sensors) so they are made to a tolerance of +-10%.
I hope you find this info useful.
Regards
Car's Paradise
If you switch 16inch alloys for 17inch alloys (on the creta) The difference in speedo will be 2.7% not 7%. Ideally you should do this if difference is less than 2.5% .
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I hope your calculator has used the Speedo error measurement formula. The image itself suggest 3% error. And the example I have used is upsizing from R14 to R15.
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here you go - the exact calculation.
And if there is an error in speedo, there will be an equivalent error on the odometer ! So I'm not sure up-sizing with such huge error is a good idea.
So for every 10,000 kms, there will be an +ve error of 250-270 kms.
And if there is an error in speedo, there will be an equivalent error on the odometer ! So I'm not sure up-sizing with such huge error is a good idea.
So for every 10,000 kms, there will be an +ve error of 250-270 kms.
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Kudos to your pictures TraderJunkie![[clap]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Clap.gif "Clap [clap]")
, the pics shows the car has good road presence IMHO. The rear license plate provision is place too loo, IMO it spoils the rear look to some extent, should have place a little higher. The interior quality is also decent. Folks at Hyundai Motor India has always designed the interior(including the shade) pretty well suiting the Indian taste.
As per my sources i have been able to collect some data:-
1. Boot space is limited to 393 liters.
2. Ground Clearance is less than 170mm.
3. Only the top variant gets machined alloys. Nissan offers machined alloys from middle variant in Terrano.
, the pics shows the car has good road presence IMHO. The rear license plate provision is place too loo, IMO it spoils the rear look to some extent, should have place a little higher. The interior quality is also decent. Folks at Hyundai Motor India has always designed the interior(including the shade) pretty well suiting the Indian taste.As per my sources i have been able to collect some data:-
1. Boot space is limited to 393 liters.
2. Ground Clearance is less than 170mm.
3. Only the top variant gets machined alloys. Nissan offers machined alloys from middle variant in Terrano.
The 3% is a rounding off done by the calculator - if you do the math manually, you will see that the exact error is 2.51% as I've shown in my second calculation.
And to your point, if you are really referring to 14inch - 15inch upsizing, the error will be much lesser
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it will be around 1.6 % ![[roll]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Roll.gif "Roll Eyes [roll]")
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As per SE, Cretas have reached Pune dealer's stockyards,
Tentatively, 1.4 L base model would cost 11.80L OTR Pune.
1.6 Topend MT would cost 17.15Land AT would cost 17.08L OTR Pune.
Topend models come with 17 inch wheels with GC 185 mm. And base model come with 16 inch wheels with same GC. I will check the car personally tomorrow.
Tentatively, 1.4 L base model would cost 11.80L OTR Pune.
1.6 Topend MT would cost 17.15Land AT would cost 17.08L OTR Pune.
Topend models come with 17 inch wheels with GC 185 mm. And base model come with 16 inch wheels with same GC. I will check the car personally tomorrow.
Here you go buddy the exact formula to calculate the error:-
For example, a standard tire is "185/70R14" with diameter = 2*185*(70/100)+(14*25.4) = 614.6 mm (185x70/1270 + 14 = 24.20 in). Another is "195/50R15" with 2*195*(50/100)+(15*25.4) = 576.0 mm (195x50/1270 + 15 = 22.68 in). Replacing the first tire (and wheels) with the second (on 15" = 381 mm wheels), a speedometer reads 100 * (1-(576/614.6)) = 100 * (1 - 22.68/24.20) = 6.28% higher than the actual speed. At an actual speed of 100 km/h (60 mph), the speedometer will indicate 100 x 1.0628 = 106.28 km/h (60 * 1.0628 = 63.77 mph), approximately.
The error showcased here is 6.28%.
I hope the converters that you have used, are using this above formula to calculate error.
Yes the error mentioned here(6.28%) is on the higher note. It shouldn't be more than 3%.
If upsizing Creta tyres from R16 to R17 and increasing the tyre width throws the error as you have mentioned, it is well within the limits.
For example, a standard tire is "185/70R14" with diameter = 2*185*(70/100)+(14*25.4) = 614.6 mm (185x70/1270 + 14 = 24.20 in). Another is "195/50R15" with 2*195*(50/100)+(15*25.4) = 576.0 mm (195x50/1270 + 15 = 22.68 in). Replacing the first tire (and wheels) with the second (on 15" = 381 mm wheels), a speedometer reads 100 * (1-(576/614.6)) = 100 * (1 - 22.68/24.20) = 6.28% higher than the actual speed. At an actual speed of 100 km/h (60 mph), the speedometer will indicate 100 x 1.0628 = 106.28 km/h (60 * 1.0628 = 63.77 mph), approximately.
The error showcased here is 6.28%.
I hope the converters that you have used, are using this above formula to calculate error.
Yes the error mentioned here(6.28%) is on the higher note. It shouldn't be more than 3%.
If upsizing Creta tyres from R16 to R17 and increasing the tyre width throws the error as you have mentioned, it is well within the limits.
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You are wrong again my friend In your example there will be a NEGATIVE error. Let me explain one last time and then stick to the Creta topic , ok
For the Creta , upsizing will introduce a +VE error of 2.51% and not 7% as you have claimed !
In your example there will be a NEGATIVE error. Let me explain one last time and then stick to the Creta topic , ok For the Creta , upsizing will introduce a +VE error of 2.51% and not 7% as you have claimed !
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Please note that the error i have claimed is not for Creta, its an example i had used to describe the formula. I have calculated the error for up sizing the tyres from R14 to R15. Check the relevant thread please.
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In your example there will be a negative error. So if the speedo shows 100, the actual speed will be 94 and not 106
Yes buddy they might have lowered it by the way you have mentioned.
But lowering the ground clearance purposefully does not make any sense here, as higher excise duty are for the vehicle who have GC higher than 200mm. IIRC. Mahindra XVU 5oo has a GC of 200mm, but officially it is 160mm. This is done to attract lower excise duty. I don't see a chance for Hyundai to do such gimmick, as you mentioned correctly that the GC as per the Chinese standards is 183mm.
The above calculation shows positive error.
Done as per standard formula.
But lowering the ground clearance purposefully does not make any sense here, as higher excise duty are for the vehicle who have GC higher than 200mm. IIRC. Mahindra XVU 5oo has a GC of 200mm, but officially it is 160mm. This is done to attract lower excise duty. I don't see a chance for Hyundai to do such gimmick, as you mentioned correctly that the GC as per the Chinese standards is 183mm.
The above calculation shows positive error.
Done as per standard formula.
Hey thanks for the info. That was really helpful. I was wondering if I go for SX+, can I opt for the 17inch including tyres of SX(O) from the dealer itself paying whatever the cost difference there is. Do dealers or even Hyundai allow this without ruining the warranty and stuff?
If the prices here are true, then it would be truly heartbreaking.
If the prices here are true, then it would be truly heartbreaking.