Hyundai Grand i10 & Xcent: Technical Problems & Solutions

[roby.thomas]

Does anyone else get steering vibration? What should I do? Get it checked with HASS or is it normal with Grand i10?

Hello nitinmehta, I would recommend that you get it checked with Hyundai service centre at the earliest. I don't think I felt any kind of steering vibration in my Xcent, and believe it would be the same in Grand i10 as well. While in Maruti, you may feel the A/C compressor switching on and off, in Hyundai you can't feel that as well. This was so in my 1st generation i10 as well.

To share an incident with you (not to scare you off , your problem is unlikely this one), the only time I felt coarse vibration on steering wheel in my old i10 was when it's radiator fan blew off. While in slow moving traffic and waiting at signal, there is no flow of air to cool the engine. The water boils and steam ejects out of the coolant chamber. Once the vehicle starts moving, the air flow seems to be sufficient enough to keep the engine cool. This vibration could be felt in the steering wheel and this was a blessing in disguise. Even before the steam can be seen, this steering vibration was a good feedback. However in Grand i10/Xcent I find that the placement of coolant tank has been moved ahead, whereas it was much closer to the steering in old i10. So I don't think now even this can cause in Grand/Xcent.

 

[puneet848]

Hello Everyone, need help!

Just noticed that my 1 month Grand i10's (petrol) steering vibrates, particularly at idle. It is not severe at the moment but I feel a new car shouldn't really vibrate. Also, felt a little strong steering vibration at the traffic signal (while the car was at idle and I was waiting for the signal to go green). The vibration level reduces as the RPM is increased and/or car is moving..

Important to note that pedals and gear lever don't carry the same level of vibration though one can feel it there too..

Does anyone else get steering vibration? What should I do? Get it checked with HASS or is it normal with Grand i10?

Thanks..

my petrol G i10 does not vibrate on steering or pedal. do get it fixed in first service for sure.

 

[nitinmehta]

Thanks @ roby.thomas and puneet848 for your inputs.

Had my car checked from HASS and they didn't find anything unusual with the car/steering. May be I'm over sensitive towards this 'mild' occasional vibrations? The HASS people checked car's system with one of their fancy tablet looking tools which they attached with the fuse box. They assured me that everything is okay with the car and very little vibration at low RPMs is acceptable as long as it is not because of some malfunction/broken part.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that things are okay. Would update, if needed.

 

[26pranshu]

My New Hyundai Xcent Base 1.2 Petrol VIN/Chassis No.:MALA741CLFM136114 Engine No.: G4 LAFM801213 Registration No.: DL1Z 6025 Date of Delivery: 3 Nov 2015 The above mentioned car engine failed at 1320 KM on 13 Nov Just after first free service. This is the quality of engines given by hyundai...my car is standing in workshop in gurgaon from last 2 days but not even the snag analysis has been done properly. They are just saying that there is problem with engine head/ block and they will send report to hyundai and will take action once the reply comes. Totally frustrated...pathetic service..bad product.

 

[roby.thomas]

Date of Delivery: 3 Nov 2015 The above mentioned car engine failed at 1320 KM on 13 Nov

Sorry to hear that. Hope they will get the car back in shape soon. That sounds like in that 10 days you went on a long drive. Would you mind explaining how the problem surfaced ?

 

[26pranshu]

Sorry to hear that. Hope they will get the car back in shape soon. That sounds like in that 10 days you went on a long drive. Would you mind explaining how the problem surfaced ?

During the first service the SA told me that engine oil level is low and 0.5 litre top up was reqd. When enquired why oil was low he told me that sometimes oil comes low from the plant itself and it is normal. Which was not the case as i had checked engine oil level at d time of delivery.
But since he was very casual abt the issue so i just told him to top up.
After servicing while i was going home after 10 kms frm service stn..the car suddenly lost all power. The engine was on but rpm wouldnt rise above say 1500. I called road side they sent some technician bt he couldnt do nything so car was towed to nearest service station.
Next day at the service stn their technicians tried then some engineer from hyundai came nd just spent 5 mins with car and told my driver that u go home this problm wont get recitified here and he left. The service manager at workshop told me that they will send a report to hyundai nd response should come by monday. I am asking fr engine replacement. Lets see what happens tomorrow.
Before breakdown the performance of car was awesome. I own a dzire also and was very pleased with this car too.

 

[roby.thomas]

engine oil level is low and 0.5 litre top up was reqd. ..so i just told him to top up.

Did they bill it to you ?

The engine was on but rpm wouldnt rise above say 1500.

Didn't you have other indications ( Engine/ECU, Oil Warning) on console when this happened ?

 

[26pranshu]

Did they bill it to you ?


Didn't you have other indications ( Engine/ECU, Oil Warning) on console when this happened ?

Yup i was charged fr engine oil.

And no other warning came...even when technicians used computer for fault analysis in the service centre nothing was detected. Workshop technicians were clueless even after 4-5 hours of work.
It was the visiting hyundai engg who first indicated towards engine failure. May be this prblm has surfaced in other engines as well because he was sure within 5 mins that it cant be rectified here.

 

[nkonamme]

Hello guys,
I own grand i10 diesel 2013 (top model). I had not opted for extended warranty. I consider this as my luck. One week before expiry of my warranty, ABS warning lamp came up and it was a faulty rear wheel sensor according to hyundai G Scan. I got the part replaced under warranty which costs around 5k.
Also SA noted slight oil leak from turbo charger and he said I will be given new turbo under warranty. Part was ordered and it took around 10 days and my warranty was expired . but I got it replaced under warranty since the job card was opened during warranty period(costs 40k approx) I am extremely happy with my SA and Hyundai

 

[nitinmehta]

Yup i was charged fr engine oil.

And no other warning came...even when technicians used computer for fault analysis in the service centre nothing was detected. Workshop technicians were clueless even after 4-5 hours of work.
It was the visiting hyundai engg who first indicated towards engine failure. May be this prblm has surfaced in other engines as well because he was sure within 5 mins that it cant be rectified here.

Sorry to hear about your car. Scary and unfortunate incident.. Hope it gets sorted without any further issue. Don't accept anything less than the faulty part being replaced, if not the entire engine.. Good luck and keep us posted with the progress..

Hello guys,
I own grand i10 diesel 2013 (top model). I had not opted for extended warranty. I consider this as my luck. One week before expiry of my warranty, ABS warning lamp came up and it was a faulty rear wheel sensor according to hyundai G Scan. I got the part replaced under warranty which costs around 5k.
Also SA noted slight oil leak from turbo charger and he said I will be given new turbo under warranty. Part was ordered and it took around 10 days and my warranty was expired . but I got it replaced under warranty since the job card was opened during warranty period(costs 40k approx) I am extremely happy with my SA and Hyundai

This reminds me to get the extended warranty.. Can't be too sure about things these days.. But really glad that it turned out to be a good experience for you and your car got back into shape without any fuss.

 

[ice_wise]

Hello guys,
I own grand i10 diesel 2013 (top model). I had not opted for extended warranty. I consider this as my luck.

Part was ordered and it took around 10 days and my warranty was expired . but I got it replaced under warranty since the job card was opened during warranty period(costs 40k approx) I am extremely happy with my SA and Hyundai

Shocked that you still haven't gone for the extended warranty! Expecting too much from your luck, is it?

 

[roby.thomas]

Also SA noted slight oil leak from turbo charger

This was a lucky and pleasant experience. I have a question though. Do you idle the engine before switching it off so that the turbo cools off ?

 

[jairajkale]

Dear Roby,
I am not technical expert in Cars, but how would you relate our pickup problem.
1) Remapping of ECU (as read in TuneOTronics website).
2) Changing of Air Filter (K&N).
3) Tuning Box.
4) clutch plate (mine is ok).

My Car is still in warranty (till 2016) and due for service in December, 2015.
Do service centre people do remapping of ECU or any specific instructions needs to be given to Service Centre people.
But, i will tell you one thing Roby, this pick up problem on terrain and speed brakers is really frustating.

Please help.
Jairaj

Dear Roby,
I am not technical expert in Cars, but how would you relate our pickup problem.
1) Remapping of ECU (as read in TuneOTronics website).
2) Changing of Air Filter (K&N).
3) Tuning Box.
4) clutch plate (mine is ok).

My Car is still in warranty (till 2016) and due for service in December, 2015.
Do service centre people do remapping of ECU or any specific instructions needs to be given to Service Centre people.
But, i will tell you one thing Roby, this pick up problem on terrain and speed brakers is really frustating.

And Roby,
What should be our course of action on this problem. Please guide.
Regards.
Jairaj

 

[roby.thomas]

Dear Roby,
... how would you relate our pickup problem.

Dear Jairaj,

It's a fact that the torque delivery of this engine at very low RPM is horrible in this car. It stalls about just anywhere. The one and only Xcent review which bluntly has stated this (terrain handling, stalls on setting vehicle to move) fact is TAI. Others just skimmed over it saying the engine is not for enthusiasts, which is anyway the case with most of the cars in this class. The fact is that, a sedate driver too is caught in this problem in circumstances like this.

Being an owner of 1st generation i10 (1.2L), I can confidently say that it was better by at-least a factor of two. But the downside was that my i10 gave terrible mileage - perhaps it gave me just about 14 Km/L in the best of highway runs. Xcent gives me not less than 13 Km/L in all circumstances, and in highways it is consistent 18.74 Km/L. So they did something to the system (Gear ratio / ECU mapping) to extract this out. But what I lost in that is, the easiness to get out of such tricky situations.

If you look at this, it is the 2nd gear which gives up. Put it on 1st and you can actually be on that and drive up to about 40 Km/Hr. It is just that 1st gear which can take that engine RPM higher (Above 3000 RPM) on a demanding condition. Being in 2nd gear, Xcent just doesn't honour it. I've learned to push this to 1st gear when I know that I would need to fly off in the very next moment. If that means first slowing down to a speed where you can actually shift to 1st, it is worth the move. This car can be driven only this way.

Perhaps an ECU remapping might help, but service centre won't do it and will void your warranty. And if this is all about a taller gear ratio, then I don't think ECU remapping would actually help. Best bet is to get used to this, as I have now become. It is slowly becoming a normal routine for me, and I am starting to have my original i10 easiness back - but the occasional stalls leave me grinding my teeth.

Now another twist is that when the car is fully loaded, then this engine is quite underpowered for the load. But that mostly affects only highway speeds that I can attain, and overtaking vehicles. It doesn't seem to affect the initial take off much.

 

[nkonamme]

Shocked that you still haven't gone for the extended warranty! Expecting too much from your luck, is it?

Hyundai standard warranty is 2 years/unlimited kms. Extended warranty is 3 years/60k kms. My car had already run 54 k and I dint find it worth to spend 9k for another 6k kms warranty