Hyundai Grand i10 & Xcent: Technical Problems & Solutions
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But isn't that weird? I didn't get such noise from any other car that we have! Anyways, will try to check with ASS!
Guys, Thought of gathering all issues I've been observing from date of purchase and post here. I would request you all to confirm if any of these are non-issues (you've also observed with your Grand) or concerning issues:
- Clutch is normal and not 'too soft' (USP of grand / excent), it gets harder with speed and normalizes once slow down.
- 'Tak' sound when applying and releasing clutch.
- Engine sound increases if you revv even slightly 'unreasonable', i.e higher than 2.5K RPM in 2-3rd gears, once increased it doesn't get lower at all.
- Ground clearance is pathetic , it doesn't do well crossing half feet speedbrakers of Pune.
- Unreliable braking on higher speed, the distance to stop is huge whereas the same is too short in low speed (brake bites).
- Gear won't move smoothly from 1st to 2nd (skipping neutral) and likewise 2nd to 3rd rest are pretty smooth.
- Very lazy takeoff, engine revvs like racing car in 1st gear while the speed is not achieved even 15KMPH, very difficult to match the speed with other cars on signals / traffic. It only performs 3rd gear onwards, though after 40KMPH it's rocket.
- Clutch is normal and not 'too soft' (USP of grand / excent), it gets harder with speed and normalizes once slow down.
- 'Tak' sound when applying and releasing clutch.
- Engine sound increases if you revv even slightly 'unreasonable', i.e higher than 2.5K RPM in 2-3rd gears, once increased it doesn't get lower at all.
- Ground clearance is pathetic , it doesn't do well crossing half feet speedbrakers of Pune.
- Unreliable braking on higher speed, the distance to stop is huge whereas the same is too short in low speed (brake bites).
- Gear won't move smoothly from 1st to 2nd (skipping neutral) and likewise 2nd to 3rd rest are pretty smooth.
- Very lazy takeoff, engine revvs like racing car in 1st gear while the speed is not achieved even 15KMPH, very difficult to match the speed with other cars on signals / traffic. It only performs 3rd gear onwards, though after 40KMPH it's rocket.
No - Clutch is normal and not 'too soft' (USP of grand / excent), it gets harder with speed and normalizes once slow down.
Yes, Only while releasing - 'Tak' sound when applying and releasing clutch.
No - Engine sound increases if you revv even slightly 'unreasonable', i.e higher than 2.5K RPM in 2-3rd gears, once increased it doesn't get lower at all.
Not unless car is fully loaded - Ground clearance is pathetic , it doesn't do well crossing half feet speedbrakers of Pune.
Not experienced so far - Unreliable braking on higher speed, the distance to stop is huge whereas the same is too short in low speed (brake bites).
Only for shifting Reverse - Gear won't move smoothly from 1st to 2nd (skipping neutral) and likewise 2nd to 3rd rest are pretty smooth.
No - Very lazy takeoff, engine revvs like racing car in 1st gear while the speed is not achieved even 15KMPH, very difficult to match the speed with other cars on signals / traffic. It only performs 3rd gear onwards, though after 40KMPH it's rocket.
Yes, Only while releasing - 'Tak' sound when applying and releasing clutch.
No - Engine sound increases if you revv even slightly 'unreasonable', i.e higher than 2.5K RPM in 2-3rd gears, once increased it doesn't get lower at all.
Not unless car is fully loaded - Ground clearance is pathetic , it doesn't do well crossing half feet speedbrakers of Pune.
Not experienced so far - Unreliable braking on higher speed, the distance to stop is huge whereas the same is too short in low speed (brake bites).
Only for shifting Reverse - Gear won't move smoothly from 1st to 2nd (skipping neutral) and likewise 2nd to 3rd rest are pretty smooth.
No - Very lazy takeoff, engine revvs like racing car in 1st gear while the speed is not achieved even 15KMPH, very difficult to match the speed with other cars on signals / traffic. It only performs 3rd gear onwards, though after 40KMPH it's rocket.
- 'Tak' sound when applying and releasing clutch - Even I am facing this issue, will confirm with HASS and provide an update here
- Engine sound increases if you revv even slightly 'unreasonable', i.e higher than 2.5K RPM in 2-3rd gears, once increased it doesn't get lower at all. - I own a petrol variant and the engine even after 15K kms is silent when on idle and if I step on the gas I hardly hear the engine. But the same engine when I step out of the car gives me a cranky sound which is very feeble.
- Ground clearance is pathetic , it doesn't do well crossing half feet speedbrakers of Pune. - It's a news to me. I had a Alto before owning Xcent, this car easily cleared reasonably high bumpers which my Alto scraped.
- Unreliable braking on higher speed, the distance to stop is huge whereas the same is too short in low speed (brake bites). ABS is really good but I met with a small accident because my ABS didn't stop the car on time.
- Gear won't move smoothly from 1st to 2nd (skipping neutral) and likewise 2nd to 3rd rest are pretty smooth. - Gear nob moves like butter, pls check with HASS on this.
- Very lazy takeoff, engine revvs like racing car in 1st gear while the speed is not achieved even 15KMPH, very difficult to match the speed with other cars on signals / traffic. It only performs 3rd gear onwards, though after 40KMPH it's rocket. - Petrol engine pickup is good, not like a racing car but it serves its purpose. Diesel is a bit sluggish though.
Above all is personally IMO and based on my car's performance.
- Engine sound increases if you revv even slightly 'unreasonable', i.e higher than 2.5K RPM in 2-3rd gears, once increased it doesn't get lower at all. - I own a petrol variant and the engine even after 15K kms is silent when on idle and if I step on the gas I hardly hear the engine. But the same engine when I step out of the car gives me a cranky sound which is very feeble.
- Ground clearance is pathetic , it doesn't do well crossing half feet speedbrakers of Pune. - It's a news to me. I had a Alto before owning Xcent, this car easily cleared reasonably high bumpers which my Alto scraped.
- Unreliable braking on higher speed, the distance to stop is huge whereas the same is too short in low speed (brake bites). ABS is really good but I met with a small accident because my ABS didn't stop the car on time.
- Gear won't move smoothly from 1st to 2nd (skipping neutral) and likewise 2nd to 3rd rest are pretty smooth. - Gear nob moves like butter, pls check with HASS on this.
- Very lazy takeoff, engine revvs like racing car in 1st gear while the speed is not achieved even 15KMPH, very difficult to match the speed with other cars on signals / traffic. It only performs 3rd gear onwards, though after 40KMPH it's rocket. - Petrol engine pickup is good, not like a racing car but it serves its purpose. Diesel is a bit sluggish though.
Above all is personally IMO and based on my car's performance.
I used to get tak tak sound when pressing my i10's clutch pedal and it could be felt on my feet as well.
Turns out the clutch pedal was broken. It developed a crack. Bill for the same.
Turns out the clutch pedal was broken. It developed a crack. Bill for the same.
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That looks and sounds scary bro!! I am gonna get it checked next week! ![[frustration]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Frustration.gif "Frustration [frustration]")
Hello Everyone!
Its been long time since I have participated in any sort of discussion on this forum. I own Grand i10 Petrol Asta (O) trim and was casually going through the thread and found out that the "TAK" sound from clutch (while pressing and releasing) is actually common with Grands and Xcents. I had taken my car to two HASS in Delhi to get this sound checked but was told that this is quite normal and happens with all cars. I obviously didn't buy it and asked the SA (Samara, Mayapuri) to get this rectified. He made me check one of the other Grands, which to my surprise, had the same "TAK" sound while pressing and releasing the clutch. Honestly, to me, this is not normal at all! I confronted him and told him I didn't care if all Hyundai cars have this issue and I wanted this to get rectified. Only then he agreed to get it checked but informed me that the whole clutch assembly would have to checked which will take good couple of hours. Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time to spare. The SA promised me to have the clutch checked on my next visit (which would happen for the second service which is due next month).
Now I'm more concerned post reading 'Allhyundaicars' comment that it was his car's clutch pedal which was broken. I'm pissed because these Hyundai people just wouldn't accept the fact that there is indeed some issue with the clutch. May be with the design, pedal, quality or whatever it is..
Has anyone else had chance to get their car checked for the same issue? Please share your experience and/or outcome..
Thanks..
Hi Allhyundaicars (sorry, don't know your real name),
Can you please let us know if the "TAK" sound has now been completely taken care of after the clutch pedal being replaced? I mean, any distinct sound/noise you get while pressing/releasing the clutch?
Also, how long did it take for the service guys to find out that the clutch pedal was the culprit and how much time did they take to fix it? I have the same issue with my Grand and I'm taking my car again next month to get this fixed..
Thanks in advance..![[:)]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Smile.gif "Smile [:)]")
Its been long time since I have participated in any sort of discussion on this forum. I own Grand i10 Petrol Asta (O) trim and was casually going through the thread and found out that the "TAK" sound from clutch (while pressing and releasing) is actually common with Grands and Xcents. I had taken my car to two HASS in Delhi to get this sound checked but was told that this is quite normal and happens with all cars. I obviously didn't buy it and asked the SA (Samara, Mayapuri) to get this rectified. He made me check one of the other Grands, which to my surprise, had the same "TAK" sound while pressing and releasing the clutch. Honestly, to me, this is not normal at all! I confronted him and told him I didn't care if all Hyundai cars have this issue and I wanted this to get rectified. Only then he agreed to get it checked but informed me that the whole clutch assembly would have to checked which will take good couple of hours. Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time to spare. The SA promised me to have the clutch checked on my next visit (which would happen for the second service which is due next month).
Now I'm more concerned post reading 'Allhyundaicars' comment that it was his car's clutch pedal which was broken. I'm pissed because these Hyundai people just wouldn't accept the fact that there is indeed some issue with the clutch. May be with the design, pedal, quality or whatever it is..
Has anyone else had chance to get their car checked for the same issue? Please share your experience and/or outcome..
Thanks..
Hi Allhyundaicars (sorry, don't know your real name),
Can you please let us know if the "TAK" sound has now been completely taken care of after the clutch pedal being replaced? I mean, any distinct sound/noise you get while pressing/releasing the clutch?
Also, how long did it take for the service guys to find out that the clutch pedal was the culprit and how much time did they take to fix it? I have the same issue with my Grand and I'm taking my car again next month to get this fixed..
Thanks in advance..
Hi nitin. First i'd like to clear I had the normal i10 and not grand i10 but since the latter uses the same engine most of the components should be the same.
My clutch was hard so went to the sc (outside mechanic quoted the same) i did tell him about the clutch noise and he too said only after opening the assembly he could check.
He ringed me and told me about the pedal crack and I told him to replace it. He showed me the pedal with the crack and it was not that big and a simple weld from outside would have been sufficient. I don't think I have the pedal with me right now or would have posted pics of the same. You can confirm the same from sa if a crack could be causing this issue. Since many people change to sportier pedals I don't think the paddle would require the clutch assembly to be openEd. So you can get it checked. Maybe this is the issue maybe not. And yes it solved the tak sound.
Can you feel it when pressing the clutch ?
My clutch was hard so went to the sc (outside mechanic quoted the same) i did tell him about the clutch noise and he too said only after opening the assembly he could check.
He ringed me and told me about the pedal crack and I told him to replace it. He showed me the pedal with the crack and it was not that big and a simple weld from outside would have been sufficient. I don't think I have the pedal with me right now or would have posted pics of the same. You can confirm the same from sa if a crack could be causing this issue. Since many people change to sportier pedals I don't think the paddle would require the clutch assembly to be openEd. So you can get it checked. Maybe this is the issue maybe not. And yes it solved the tak sound.
Can you feel it when pressing the clutch ?
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Okay, thanks for the info.. Yes, both models (Grand and i10) share most of the engine components so I guess I would have my SA to check the pedal first since that's not very time consuming either. My car has covered close to 9K and I would take it for service as soon as it hits the mark..
I'm really sad to see this kind of issue cropping up on otherwise such brilliant cars and what disturbs me more is Hyundai Service Center folks have this tendency to duck these sort of issues which aren't too prominent![[anger]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Anger.gif "Anger [anger]")
. Anyways, thanks again for your response..
Just one more thing, where in Delhi did you have your car fixed? Can you also share the name of your SA please?
Cheers
I'm really sad to see this kind of issue cropping up on otherwise such brilliant cars and what disturbs me more is Hyundai Service Center folks have this tendency to duck these sort of issues which aren't too prominent
. Anyways, thanks again for your response..Just one more thing, where in Delhi did you have your car fixed? Can you also share the name of your SA please?
Cheers
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I go to samara hyundai gt karnal road. I think his name is ravi. I always get confused. The previous sa shifted to another branch from whom I got my i10 fixed. Ravi is my current sa now (moustache guy , a lititle dark complexion)
Noted. Thanks..
Sorry, missed your question in your previous comment - yes, I do feel that my car' clutch has got a little hard.. And the "TAK" sound is very much audible which happens while pressing and releasing the clutch. I have also noted that the sound occurs only when the car ignition is ON and not when its OFF. Interestingly, the clutch makes more noise while standing idle, during 1st and 2nd gear operation. From 3rd gear onwards, the noise becomes less audible..![[confused]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Confused.gif "Confused [confused]")
Sorry, missed your question in your previous comment - yes, I do feel that my car' clutch has got a little hard.. And the "TAK" sound is very much audible which happens while pressing and releasing the clutch. I have also noted that the sound occurs only when the car ignition is ON and not when its OFF. Interestingly, the clutch makes more noise while standing idle, during 1st and 2nd gear operation. From 3rd gear onwards, the noise becomes less audible..
If you can't hear it if engine is off then I don't think it should be a cracked paddle. It should behave the same even when engine is off.
Hmm.. Makes sense.. Guess, SC guys would have to check the assembly.. Thanks again for your inputs..
Slightly off topic..I want to share a incident happened with my grand i10 last night around 2, a thief was trying to break in. But thank god that my neighbours were returning back and they saw and responded immediately. Thief did ran way but luckily my ride was fine. As mine is magna, doesn't come with anti theft alarm.
When I get to know about this incident next morning. I got autocop xs plip 80 for it. Which have door and volumetric security as well. I want to ask is there anything else should I install like..a gear lock??
When I get to know about this incident next morning. I got autocop xs plip 80 for it. Which have door and volumetric security as well. I want to ask is there anything else should I install like..a gear lock??