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Despite the weakness in Microsoft’s stock price today (it’s down about 5%), I think their decision to buy Nokia’s hardware and services business is absolutely the right move. And it really shouldn’t be much of a surprise. When Stephen Elop made the gutsy decision to kill Symbian and bet entirely on Windows Phone, most people correctly had a strong sense that this would eventually happen.

But Wall Street isn’t too excited at the notion of Microsoft spending over $7 billion in cash to double down on its smartphone bet. And that’s understandable. It’s a lot of money for a potential failed deal. I think it probably will end up being successful for Microsoft. They’ve already climbed up to the #3 position in the smartphone market, having overtaken BlackBerry. If they can achieve this while having to balance the growth objectives of two separate companies, then I think it should only get easier for them as a combined entity.



As a long-term BlackBerry user I always hoped the Canadian competitor would cement its #3 position in the market. But they haven’t been able to do so. And I think Microsoft’s push to get more apps on its platform has been one of the driving forces behind its success. BlackBerry didn’t dump enough money (in a smart enough way) into developer recruitment. I remember when I’d visit the website for pretty much any popular app and I’d see little advertisement for both the iTunes App Store and Google Play. Now I’m seeing more situations when Microsoft is mentioned. Microsoft says that it is outselling BlackBerry in 34 markets around the world. They’ve got some decent momentum happening.



$5 billion of the deal is attributed to Nokia’s hardware business. It’s widely reported that Microsoft was bringing in less than $10 of revenue per handset sold, but will now bring in about $40 per unit. Let’s assume net profit can be half of this, or $20 per phone. If Microsoft can maintain a solid #3 position in the market it isn’t crazy to think of them selling 250 million units over several years. This could bring in $5 billion of additional income based on my quick math. In other words, I don’t think Microsoft is overpaying here.



In reading the report from Kantar Worldpanel from yesterday I think it’s interesting how Microsoft has been successful in gaining market share by convincing first time smartphone buyers to try Windows Phone. The high end of the market is dominated by Samsung and Apple. But almost half the planet is still buying dumb phones, and this is bound to change. Nokia was successful with the Lumia 520, and it seems that under Microsoft’s ownership the Windows Phone OS will build critical mass as Lumia penetrates the lower end of the market. Not everyone wants to buy cheap Android phones. BlackBerry’s legacy OS isn’t compelling and the company has been too slow to bring BlackBerry 10 to emerging markets. Apple hasn’t attacked the lower end of the market at all yet. That leaves a lot of opportunity for Microsoft. And I’m not saying Microsoft has to compete only at the low end. That’s just where they get their critical mass. From there, they can fight for customers in the entire spectrum of price points.

As for Nokia? This sale is exactly what they needed. They were not big enough (any more) to guarantee themselves success, but they were too large to fail. They will now have a hugely strong balance sheet with which to invest in wireless infrastructure and location based services.

(Chris Umiastowski is a contributing financial writer to the Mobile Nation network. You can see the rest of his posts at AndroidCentral, iMore and CrackBerry.)

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I have seen this as something good for the buyers

as i call microsoft windows 8 as a no nonsense professional phone software and Nokia as a well build phone when it comes to either lowend or spartphones

so this combination of a right software with rite hardware will certainly brings another apple at affordable price tag
 
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When bought a Lumia phone, I am not bothered of Nokia or somebody else. I am bothered about the instrument and its OS and what it offers to me, whether it satisfy my needs that's it.

So today if my phone name is changed from Nokia to MS or something else also how am I effected with that, if Nokia name becomes a history then why am I bothered of it, I am more concerned about my instrument and OS and its periodic updates or offerings nothing more to it.

I never felt that I am in a sinking ship by buying a Lumia phone as I am never bothered about the Nokia's financial situation or their sales figures. The surprising thing is that pure droid users take the responsibility of windows phone user and say people are not happy with it[lol] which is the joke of the millennium to me. And I have never said or say droid is useless at all
 
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No new Nokia branded phones, Microsoft says it will rebrand devices | TweakTown

now please do not ask the question "so what? "[roll]

the article is self explanatory.
Yes I read that article but what it has to do with the post of yours quoted below ? How does rebranding will make it a blackberry or webos ? Hope you yourself have written this following post .
i see another HP (webOS) and blackberry in the making. [cry]
I want to know from you how do you see a hp webos or blackberry in making ? If its your desire or figment of imagination well then no need to to explain because mind can go eat a ice cream on mars too .

@ madhu +100 .
 
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When bought a Lumia phone, I am not bothered of Nokia or somebody else. I am bothered about the instrument and its OS and what it offers to me, whether it satisfy my needs that's it.
So, if MMX starts making WinOS phones would you consider it? As far as I remember, you rejected MMX because of the brand and not due to the h/w s/w it was offering.
 
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So, if MMX starts making WinOS phones would you consider it? As far as I remember, you rejected MMX because of the brand and not due to the h/w s/w it was offering.
Yes I agree with you on this, AND yes I am bothered about MMX taking over Nokia but not for the present instrument, but future instrument if I have to buy from them[:)]

Since MS is also a reputed brand in the market, so I am not worried if Nokia name will be there are not and this whole thread is about OS, so I am happy with current windows OS offered by Nokia/MS
 
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Yes I agree with you on this, AND yes I am bothered about MMX taking over Nokia but not for the present instrument, but future instrument if I have to buy from them[:)]

Since MS is also a reputed brand in the market, so I am not worried if Nokia name will be there are not and this whole thread is about OS, so I am happy with current windows OS offered by Nokia/MS
I never said "if MMX takes over Nokia". I just said if MMX starts making WinOS phones, would you buy from them? And I got that your answer is NO. So, the brand DOES matter for you, right? In which case you just contradicted your own statement. [surprise]
 
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I never said "if MMX takes over Nokia". I just said if MMX starts making WinOS phones, would you buy from them? And I got that your answer is NO. So, the brand DOES matter for you, right? In which case you just contradicted your own statement. [surprise]
Okay, to make it clear read my following statement and bold portion please
When bought a Lumia phone, I am not bothered of Nokia or somebody else. I am bothered about the instrument and its OS and what it offers to me, whether it satisfy my needs that's it.
So, that means I am bothered about the instrument apart from brand so I am free to choose the instrument quality based on my previous experience, physical appearance, reliability, quality of after sales service, finally the brand reputation and responsibility. In my same post I said that I am not bothered either it is from Nokia or MS but I am bothered about the instrument that drives me to a good manufacturer who coincidentally can be a reputed brand too
 
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For me, brand do matter when it comes to phone/TV.

If Nokia is bought by some Chinese xyz company, I would think again to buy a new phone under new name.
Microsoft is known for making lots of good products also. Xbox, Keyboard, Mouse and many other devices. (Recently they stopped manufacturing keyboard/mouse though). So, If Microsoft makes a product with their name, we know the backing of Nokia hardware is very well there. So, why worry buying a Microsoft phone ?

Again, if Microsoft had bought cheap Chinese phone making company and sells phone, I would wait for sometime before buying it :).

One thing is for sure. Microsoft do not take my information as much as google do. I am seriously thinking of going back to Old hotmail/outlook email id for personal use.

OT: I have Chrome & Firefox with an ad-on adblockplus installed with " Allow some non-intrusive advertising" unchecked. So, I do not get google ads neither in gmail or while searching.
 
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Yes I agree with you on this, AND yes I am bothered about MMX taking over Nokia but not for the present instrument, but future instrument if I have to buy from them[:)]
So, that means I am bothered about the instrument apart from brand so I am free to choose the instrument quality based on my previous experience, physical appearance, reliability, quality of after sales service, finally the brand reputation and responsibility.
The above two replies don't gel well buddy!! [;)] Well, leaving the discussion right here, for good!
 
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Yes I read that article but what it has to do with the post of yours quoted below ? How does rebranding will make it a blackberry or webos ? Hope you yourself have written this following post .


I want to know from you how do you see a hp webos or blackberry in making ? If its your desire or figment of imagination well then no need to to explain because mind can go eat a ice cream on mars too .
it is not rebranding. it is the end of nokia.

as was the end of web os. no point discussing the obvious.[frustration]
 
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it is not rebranding. it is the end of nokia.

as was the end of web os. no point discussing the obvious.[frustration]
Do you actually know what webos is and what it is actually now ? And even the history of webos ? Pls don't make sweeping statements .

A simple question how does not using name of nokia on a handset make the platform webos or blackberry ?

The end of nokia means rebranding from Microsoft everything remains same just the name changes to whatever Microsoft decides the name LUMIA stays .

Webos was a OS devloped by Palm inc which had no resources to further devlop a brilliant OS . palm as a company which was acquired by HP thinking they can compete with iOS , wp8 , and android .
Later HP knew they don't have the capacity and funds to bring the OS to a level were developers will take intrest . Hence they backed out , even samsung did that with BADA .

Same with blackberry they don't have enough funds and developer support . Plus the handset offerings are limited too again because of lack of funds .

Apple = lots of funds , own software , own hardware , great developer support .

Google = free software , also bought Motorola for having vertical integration , lots of funds , great developer support .

Microsoft = lots of funds , now with nokia are vertically integrated since they have world class hardware maker . Less developer support relatively compared to ios / android but enough money to sustain in the market .

In this case I don't understand how does Nokia device department integrating in Microsoft makes windows phone a webos or blackberry .[roll]
 
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