Why Hate Hyundai?

[Altocumulus]

Verna & i20 engines are best engines available in that price range, such is their quickness that an average man doesn't realise many a times that he has crossed 100 kmph so early (refer to 0 to 100 kmph V box reading of Verna as compared to competition ) and entered in to risky speed on roads like E way, With such amazing 0 to 100 kmph quickness, don't you think steering feedback should be more precise than the competition especially when the car is costing 1 to 2 L more than competition?

Though I agree to the latter part of your statement, I am skeptical about the former. Which engine are you talking about ? The petrol or the diesel ? The i20 petrol is sluggish and saying that is being kind to it. The petrol engines of Hyundai are not as fun as that of their Japanese counterparts like Honda, Suzuki or Mitsubishi. I extensively drive an i20, i20 Elite, Verna, City, Baleno, Brio of my friends. Hyundai petrols are no where near.

Hyundai just sells on features and their service network. Also look at the number of variants they have. They donot keep them as simple as the Marutis, etc. nor do they have the best engines nor the best driving characteristics. One of the reason I like them is because thanks to them the other manufacturers feel the pressure of adding more features to their cars.

 

[furious_driver]

Though I agree to the latter part of your statement, I am skeptical about the former. Which engine are you talking about ? The petrol or the diesel ? The i20 petrol is sluggish and saying that is being kind to it. The petrol engines of Hyundai are not as fun as that of their Japanese counterparts like Honda, Suzuki or Mitsubishi. I extensively drive an i20, i20 Elite, Verna, City, Baleno, Brio of my friends. Hyundai petrols are no where near.

Hyundai just sells on features and their service network. Also look at the number of variants they have. They donot keep them as simple as the Marutis, etc. nor do they have the best engines nor the best driving characteristics. One of the reason I like them is because thanks to them the other manufacturers feel the pressure of adding more features to their cars.

Owner of Xcent Petrol : It is not sluggish. As like every other car, it have lag till 1.8k rpm and once past, it is very good in terms of pickup. It is all about keeping the car in right rpm! I never have any trouble over taking, and if I decide to have fun, I can have.

Agreed. 1.2L in i20 is joke. Because of the weight. But saying all Petrol engines are not good is just blind generalizing. Have you driven Verna Petrol? It may not have the turbo kick like Diesel, but it is a hoot to drive.

 

[Altocumulus]

Owner of Xcent Petrol : It is not sluggish. As like every other car, it have lag till 1.8k rpm and once past, it is very good in terms of pickup. It is all about keeping the car in right rpm! I never have any trouble over taking, and if I decide to have fun, I can have.

Agreed. 1.2L in i20 is joke. Because of the weight. But saying all Petrol engines are not good is just blind generalizing. Have you driven Verna Petrol? It may not have the turbo kick like Diesel, but it is a hoot to drive.

I am not saying they are bad. I even had a Accent 1.6 GTX Tornado myself for sometime. Also as mentioned in the previous post I have driven those cars extensively, as a matter of fact I am driving one today. The Hyundai engines are powerful on paper but you never feel that power. Even in my Ritz if I floor in 2nd or 3rd I am pushed back to the seat. That feeling is not there. As a daily drive it will definitely suit our needs. All cars will. However for those 10 sec fun bursts to the rev limiter its not a Hyundai that can put a smile on your face.

Another example would be, why do you think you never/ hardly see any Hyundais in rallies or serious drags ? Why is it mostly a Maruti, Mitsubishi or Honda ?

 

[P3T3R]

The Hyundai engines are powerful on paper but you never feel that power.

I noticed this with the i10. The 65 BHP i10 felt underpowered compared to the 45 BHP Uno. Also you need good handling to make optimum use of the power generated by the engine. But what to do, some people don't understand the basics of handling.

 

[acechip]

I guess no one hates Hyundais. I am a satisfied owner of a Santro (from 2003-2008) . They do the job for 99% of the users. It is the 1% who are more discerning enough to nitpick on steering feel, handling, ride that have issues with Hyundai. And most of these 1% are Automotive forum members.
That said, Hyundai is doing something right that the Europeans (VW/Skoda/Fiat) have been unable to do, inspite of slightly better engineered cars. So they deserve their success.

 

[type-r]

No one hates Hyundai. Just stating the negatives. As the statement made by OP that other brands are not hated, I guess he just has to use a little more of his vision to find it because all brands have some flaws and Hyundai's flaw is handling. period. I do not see why this is being dragged on with one guy endlessly defending the brand as if there is no tomorow.

I've owned a Toyota, Mahindra, Honda, Maruti, VW, TATA, Ford, and lastly Hyundai. I can safely say the Hyundai had worse steering compared to all. Does it make a bad car, no? But just have to accept the flaws and move on.

Again OP mentioned that enthusiasts are against, well enthusiasts must be people who like to drive? Comfort is not on their priority list as such because they need the connection between man and machine which unfortunately a Hyundai does not give. So a note to OP, accept it and move on.

 

[furious_driver]

So a note to OP, accept it and move on.

Dude, you make it sound like as if I am Hyundai! I agree with you about handling and I mention here over and over again. But it is not about that. It is about people NOT even suggesting Hyundai to new car buyer, first timer, just because of that. Why such discrimination? It is not for you, but for stranger you met online. Be frank and open. Suggest him all AVAILABLE option and let him choose. Instead, what I see is people convenient-ly neglect Hyundai and if someone bring it up, they will start bashing. This is what I am shouting at top of my lungs throughout the posts!

 

[type-r]

Dude, you make it sound like as if I am Hyundai! I agree with you about handling and I mention here over and over again. But it is not about that. It is about people NOT even suggesting Hyundai to new car buyer, first timer, just because of that. Why such discrimination? It is not for you, but for stranger you met online. Be frank and open. Suggest him all AVAILABLE option and let him choose. Instead, what I see is people convenient-ly neglect Hyundai and if someone bring it up, they will start bashing. This is what I am shouting at top of my lungs throughout the posts!

Let me honest with you, I have many non enthusiasts friends who just did not like any Hyundai for their taste while some have indeed gone for Hyundai. So I suggest all but if they decide to not buy after checking the vehicle, is it wrong?

 

[furious_driver]

Let me honest with you, I have many non enthusiasts friends who just did not like any Hyundai for their taste while some have indeed gone for Hyundai. So I suggest all but if they decide to not buy after checking the vehicle, is it wrong?

Not at all. How come it is wrong? Did I say so before? You did what you can and it is up to them to buy whatever they want. See, this is what I was telling, at least you suggested him.

 

[saroya]

Cool down guys, "abe bachhe ki jaan loge kya".
Yes i agree that if someone is asking for suggestions to buy car, we should give him unbiased information about all the available options. But it is also necessary (IMO) to tell him our good or bad experiences about any particular brand.
While Choosing one's dream vehicle he must know its pros and cons. That's the sole purpose why everyone asking for help on various automotive forums .

 

[Altocumulus]

Dude, you make it sound like as if I am Hyundai! I agree with you about handling and I mention here over and over again. But it is not about that. It is about people NOT even suggesting Hyundai to new car buyer, first timer, just because of that. Why such discrimination? It is not for you, but for stranger you met online. Be frank and open. Suggest him all AVAILABLE option and let him choose. Instead, what I see is people convenient-ly neglect Hyundai and if someone bring it up, they will start bashing. This is what I am shouting at top of my lungs throughout the posts!

I completely disagree with you here. Every single forum I go to or am a member of, so I am not limited to TAI, people do suggest Hyundais. However that maybe limited to the hatches max to Xcent now. You wont find many people maybe recommending a Verna or Elantra or Sonata or Sante Fe. 99% of the new car buyers looking for a hatch are definitely recommended a Hyundai and along with its flaws. When it comes to full size sedans and above there are better all round packages in the market than a 'mass market' brand like Maruti or Hyundai. Also no one would want their 11L + car to crash through a porthole or requiring constant inputs in the steering on highways because there is zero feedback. If I am paying so much I need a car which makes me comfortable in the city and out of it.

 

[type-r]

Not at all. How come it is wrong? Did I say so before? You did what you can and it is up to them to buy whatever they want. See, this is what I was telling, at least you suggested him.

Yes indeed. But if enthusiasts don't like some cars and then non enthusiasts also don't like it then there must indeed be a fundamental flaw right in the car?

 

[allhyundaicars]

. When it comes to full size sedans and above there are better all round packages in the market than a 'mass market' brand like Maruti or Hyundai. Also no one would want their 11L + car to crash through a porthole or requiring constant inputs in the steering on highways because there is zero feedback. If I am paying so much I need a car which makes me comfortable in the city and out of it.

I get what op wants to say about the descrimination against hyundai.

Like i mentioned before, honda city too has lifeless steering but i got to know after so many months. Why is that ? I have never seen anyone making this point when they suggested the city over ciaz and the verna.

It's not like i don't come here often. i was searching for something else and found something important.

If you say you don't want to crash because of lifeless steering but in city's negative i have only heard of cost cutting and nvh levels. NOTHING ELSE.

So does it means lifeless steering is dangerous only in the verna ?

 

[furious_driver]

I get what op wants to say about the descrimination against hyundai.

Like i mentioned before, honda city too has lifeless steering but i got to know after so many months. Why is that ? I have never seen anyone making this point when they suggested the city over ciaz and the verna.

Because it is City and it is from Honda. Isn't this discrimination and if we talk about this, people still think we try to defend Hyundai!

 

[Tornado]

Try to understand, Verna diesel is faster car than Honda city so steering feedback becomes more important in case of Verna.
And city also gets criticism for skinny tyres, cost cutting noisy engine etc especially when it comes to price of the car.