VDub Polo 1.2 TDi CL - Princess Comes Home

[VipinLJ]

Yup. I just realised that the first one has only 4 holes. The second one looks beautiful and I saw a similar one at Pete's in Cochin. They are expensive but if I had the money, I would plonk it on them. Simply beautiful and they reek of quality.

 

[VipinLJ]

Just saw the new Polo HL. It has the RCD 320 system with built-in bluetooth along with aux-in, USB and SD card reader. And it comes in shadow blue colour. And best of all, it has ACC.

The new Polo CL has the RCD 310 stereo with USB and aux-in. Now I feel like a fool because my 2 month old Polo does not have those features.

 

[sanke1]

Bad luck for us

 

[Rightnow]

Just saw the new Polo HL. It has the RCD 320 system with built-in bluetooth along with aux-in, USB and SD card reader. And it comes in shadow blue colour. And best of all, it has ACC.
The new Polo CL has the RCD 310 stereo with USB and aux-in. Now I feel like a fool because my 2 month old Polo does not have those features.

This had to happen. Initially the costs of production were higher and now that company is growing, they can afford to introduce new things.

I won't be surprised if soon the 1.2 cc, 3 pot motors are taken out of market. Then resale value of our cars would drop to zilch!!

 

[sanke1]

The only thing the polo has against it is the 3 cyl engine.

 

[VipinLJ]

True. A friend of mine who has a Polo which he bought six months back was telling me that he feels like a big fool for buying the Polo because VW keeps changing features every now and then.
If Polo stops the 3-cyl engine totally, the resale value of our cars will almost drop down to zero.

 

[amippjpr]

If 3 cyl means a bad engine the upcoming Ecosport with the 1.0 ltr 3 cyl engine should be dud?

2 cyl engine in Fiat 500 should be worst in the world?

There are many examples where it has been proven that if engine is good than number of cyl don't mater while counting performance. If people are still keep complaining about 3 or 4 or 6 cylinders then it means they are still living in the old era. If people owning 4 cylinder cars think themselves as owners of super-cars then come onto the ground and know that anything less then 6 cylinder is counted imbalance engine. Another thing is maybe 4 cyl produces smoother noise at low RPM, but its the 3 cylinder which will produce interesting revvy note in most of the range. And if you think that engine sound will reduce if VW brings the 4 cylinder then forget about that and listen sound of Vento 1.6 which is more sounding then the 1.2 Polo.

Why are you guys talking about 3 or 4 cylinders? Drive the other cars n same segment with 4 cylinders and try to rev them at higher RPMs, you will know the difference between VW and others. And whoever are driving the VWs, just don't forget that maybe these engines start feeling more smooth and silent at high speeds where other engines start producing lot of noise.

Instead of blaming VW, just enjoy driving your VW cars.

 

[VipinLJ]

No one said 3-cyl engines in general are bad or that people who own 4-cyl cars think they own super cars or whatever. What I said is that the 3-cyl engine on the Polo SOUNDS less refined compared to the 4-cyl engines on the other cars belonging to the same class as the Polo.
My car at 100-120 km/h is noisier than my friends' Swift, i20 and Punto at the same speed. When I say this, I do not mean that the 1.3 MJD is not at all noisy. All I'm saying is that those engines sound more refined. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say. Try cruising in a Polo at 120 km/h and then do the same in a Swift or Punto. The 1.3 MJD sounds less stressed than the 1.2 TDi. (The reason I'm saying this is because my girl bought a Polo and a Punto on the exact same day so I know how both sound as I've driven both extensively.)
And regarding the Vento. I recently had the chance to keep a Vento for a week. The Vento, on the outside, sounds all clattery. But on the inside, it is quieter than the Polo. Again like I said, it's the VW engines that are slightly more noisy, irrespective of 3- or 4-cyl, petrol or diesel. I read in many ownership threads that the petrol 1.2l Polo sounds like a diesel at times.
VW should have provided better sound deadening at the price that they are charging.

 

[amippjpr]

What I said is that the 3-cyl engine on the Polo SOUNDS less refined compared to the 4-cyl engines on the other cars belonging to the same class as the Polo.

Yes, it will behave like tractor until it gets warmed up and it takes much longer than other cars to warm up, thats it.

Try cruising in a Polo at 120 km/h and then do the same in a Swift or Punto. The 1.3 MJD sounds less stressed than the 1.2 TDi.

Strange, really strange. In my life, I experienced the Polo 1.2 TDI least noisy at speeds between 90-120 and feels much more relaxed compered to the cars you mentioned. Figo TDCI is worst. You must be straining more than required on the A pedal.

(The reason I'm saying this is because my girl bought a Polo and a Punto on the exact same day so I know how both sound as I've driven both extensively.)

There will always be difference in 'driving extensively' and 'buying and driving your own car'
Until you spend money on a car, it will keep feeling poorer compared to the car you already have. You will tend to be biased.

Again like I said, it's the VW engines that are slightly more noisy, irrespective of 3- or 4-cyl, petrol or diesel. I read in many ownership threads that the petrol 1.2l Polo sounds like a diesel at times..

All Germans are sounding (please don't use noisy for god sake if you don't understand difference). 1.2 engines can be called noisy only until they are idling or driven at below 1800 RPM range. After that they start showing their real character.

 

[Rightnow]

If 3 cyl means a bad engine the upcoming Ecosport with the 1.0 ltr 3 cyl engine should be dud?

Why are you guys talking about 3 or 4 cylinders? Drive the other cars n same segment with 4 cylinders and try to rev them at higher RPMs, you will know the difference between VW and others. And whoever are driving the VWs, just don't forget that maybe these engines start feeling more smooth and silent at high speeds where other engines start producing lot of noise.
Instead of blaming VW, just enjoy driving your VW cars.

No polo owner has ever said that he disliked the car for it being 3 cylinder, or for high noise. Its just the perception amongst those who do not own it.
I have driven 4 cyl figo, i20, swift etc. and I can say that the engine of polo still is still in the same leagues in fact better than few. For instance, swift's pulling power in third doesn't hold a candle to polo's third. I am talking about petrol here by the way.

Specifically, what we were talking about is the 'resale value' of 3 cyl polo when new 4 cyl models appear in market, which will get negatively affected due to the perception of the engine.

 

[VipinLJ]

Well. To each his own I guess :)
Btw, the Polo chassis can easily accomodate the more powerful 1.6TDi. Please VW. Are you listening. I beg you. Bring the VW Polo in the 1.6 TDi avatar and I will book one on the spot. No questions asked :D

 

[amippjpr]

Specifically, what we were talking about is the 'resale value' of 3 cyl polo when new 4 cyl models appear in market, which will get negatively affected due to the perception of the engine.

Your concern is right, but most people don't even pay attention to engines if its 3 cylinder or 4 or how much BHP it has. Most of the people still consider CC displacement as power.

For instance its been enough time since new K12 engine debuted in the Swift, but did that impact resale value of old petrol Swift? No.

Accent had 3 cylinder engines but it is still selling in the used market.

There are many examples so don't worry about resale value.

@VipinLJ - VW diesel engines are know as TDI (all caps), not TDi (i in small letters). TDi is used by Tata.

 

[Rightnow]

Well. To each his own I guess :)
Btw, the Polo chassis can easily accomodate the more powerful 1.6TDi. Please VW. Are you listening. I beg you. Bring the VW Polo in the 1.6 TDi avatar and I will book one on the spot. No questions asked :D

Price will go into the territory of sedans. Would you still?

 

[Rightnow]

Your concern is right, but most people don't even pay attention to engines if its 3 cylinder or 4 or how much BHP it has. Most of the people still consider CC displacement as power.

The bad news is that people are getting more and more aware.
Others, those who do not bother about specs like bhp, cylinders, torque, those people simply pick up Maruti or may be Hyundai from resale market. Potential cars like punto, polo still are left unseen.

Rumors are that the higher spec engines will only be offered in highline trims, if so, then it would not impact the resale of current polos to that extent.

 

[sanke1]

Guys just enjoy your car without thinking about resale value. We have bought Polo for driving pleasure and not for resale.