Tata Vista QJD Ownership Review: Brand New Sedan Class


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True. Even I have never see anybody putting up long term reviews of the impact of the upgrade. @CarCar is the first member that I have ever seen in an online forum putting up long term reviews of the upgrade.

Hence my worry. Most of the forums say that the ideal upgrade will be 185/60 but this will slightly reduce the GC. Better don't go for R15 as it will definitely void your warranty/extended warranty.

I am even worried about upgrading to 185 combination because am not sure what the long term implications will be on suspension and steering. Vista's/Manza's have soft suspension and greater wear and tyre and also you have these alignment problems.

@CarCar - Does 185/65 fit into the spare wheel section of the boot or are there any issues?

After seen wider tyres on some Swift, the OEM looks thinner in Swift. But for Vista the stock tyres looks Decent and have Enough grip.

My Vista got Goodyear tyres as like yours, If R15 will be an issue, then I'll go for 185/60 with some good set of alloys. otherwise stock specifcations R14/175/65 in yokoyama or michelin with alloys. I'm sure It will look good & wont be a problem[;)]
 
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@Carcar,

Nice up-gradation of tyres buddy, I missed it when I bought my Ritz last year and I am waiting the tyres to worn-out now as I feel lot of body roll in Ritz and 165s and that too JK tornados are really useless with lot of noise and grip is too less.

But in the case of Vista it is 175 stock tyres and you have upgraded them to 185, so with this 10mm deference you said the ride is different completely. That is really nice to hear this, can you bit elaborate or differentiate between stock tyre and new tyres experience
 
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@CarCar - Thanks for your feedback. Did you do an upgrade immediately after buying the car or was it later?

My car's stock tyre spec is 175/65/R14 and my car is a 2009 model and I have done close to 39K on those tyres. The stock tyre is GoodYear GT3. So, thinking of going to Apollo Acelere.

I read in the online forums that the perfect upgrade will be 185/60. Any reason for going to 185/65? And is it safe to do an upgrade now to either 185/60 or 185/65? My only worry is that it should not mess up the suspensions or the steering.
You should aim to be within 3% difference from the original tyre and wheel combo to the new one when up-sizing or downsizing.

Difference in circumference between 175/65 R14 and 185/65 R14 is just +2.3% up-sizing, so why compromise on ride quality and settle on 60 sidewall height? Whereas even 175/65 to 185/60 is not a 100% accurate, in this case you are actually downsizing -0.9%, lowering your ground clearance and putting extra load on car's suspension after reduced tire sidewall height.

+3% or -3% both are okay and within tolerance levels.

Read more here - Car Bibles : The Wheel & Tyre Bible

@Carcar,

Nice up-gradation of tyres buddy, I missed it when I bought my Ritz last year and I am waiting the tyres to worn-out now as I feel lot of body roll in Ritz and 165s and that too JK tornados are really useless with lot of noise and grip is too less.

But in the case of Vista it is 175 stock tyres and you have upgraded them to 185, so with this 10mm deference you said the ride is different completely. That is really nice to hear this, can you bit elaborate or differentiate between stock tyre and new tyres experience
Most recently TATA has started to provide horribly narrow 165/70 tyres and 13 inch rims on TDI variants, earlier it used to be 175/65 R14. Maybe to keep taxi-owner's happy, mileage gain and better ride quality.

Yes 165 to 185 is a world of difference, it's even noticeable from 175 (My BIL has pre facelift Vista) to 185.

185's are the best bet for the Ritz and Vista as they give the best of both worlds. The difference in ride, braking, handling is very obvious. You guys will enjoy it even more due to Fiat's Quadrajet/DDIS under your hood.
 
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apppu i m planning to buy a car. Please help me yr.
i am interested in vista quadrajet.
Please help me
 
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apppu i m planning to buy a car. Please help me yr.
i am interested in vista quadrajet.
Please help me

Hi Mak,

First, Welcome to TAI.

you can look at the below link, that will say about my destination Vista[;)]

Q-Class or Sedan Class (Liva GD vs Vista VX)

About to Book Tata Indigo CS (ABS): Now Booked Vista QJD[/COLOR]



I'm using Vista VX(quadrajet ABS) from April 2012(8 Months). Till yesterday(09/12/12), My Whity completed 13,700Kms.

Top mileage achieved- 24.4Kmpl(Non-Ac), 18Kmpl(With AC).
Mileage calculated with the speed above 100Km/hr.

Worst Mileage - 15kmpl(with A/C) in Sabarimala hills.

What I like in my Whitey?
1. Space
2. Comfort
3. Acceleration and Engine response
4. Steering controls with Blue tooth.
5. The Most powerful ABS breaks
6. Low beam of Head light & the High beam focus at the same time

What I Dislike?
1. Centre console.
2. No Boot light.
3. ORVM's( I feel it is Insufficient for city drive)
4. Body roll.


Apart from Dislikes, I like Vista very much & it completely fulfilled my needs.


TASS in Vellore is really good so far & give proper response to customers.
I think if you go through my review, you may get some idea about Vista.
If you decided to go for Vista, first check about your nearby TASS quality of doing work. I've heared that TASS is not good in some Cities. If you have good experience/Review about your nearby TASS, you can go for it.

If you choose Vista, go for VX model, It has

1.ABS,
2. Bluetooth,
3. Inbuilt Music system with USB support & speakers,
4. Steering controls,
5. Driver seat Lumbar support,
6. Height adjustable driver seat,
7. Intelligent Rear Wiper,
8. front & Rear fog lamps,
9. 60:40 folding rear seats,
10. Centre locking with remote key,
11. Illuminated key hole,
12. Tray under co- driver seat, etc.,

I think I've covered all the features of Vista VX.

IMO, If you have good TASS in your area, you can go for Vista VX. It is a pure value for Money & really a wonderful fun machine to Drive

You can also refer:
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...new-tata-vista-vx-2012-first-impressions.html
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...-indica-vista-quadrajet-ownership-report.html
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...03-tata-indica-vista-vx-ownership-review.html
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...ws/4652-new-tata-indica-vista-test-drive.html
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...-my-first-ever-car-my-vista-qjd-aura-abs.html
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...w-tata-indica-vista-v-s-new-maruti-swift.html
 
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Hi Mak,

First, Welcome to TAI.

you can look at the below link, that will say about my destination Vista[;)]

Q-Class or Sedan Class (Liva GD vs Vista VX)

About to Book Tata Indigo CS (ABS): Now Booked Vista QJD[/COLOR]



I'm using Vista VX(quadrajet ABS) from April 2012(8 Months). Till yesterday(09/12/12), My Whity completed 13,700Kms.

Top mileage achieved- 24.4Kmpl(Non-Ac), 18Kmpl(With AC).
Mileage calculated with the speed above 100Km/hr.

Worst Mileage - 15kmpl(with A/C) in Sabarimala hills.

What I like in my Whitey?
1. Space
2. Comfort
3. Acceleration and Engine response
4. Steering controls with Blue tooth.
5. The Most powerful ABS breaks
6. Low beam of Head light & the High beam focus at the same time

What I Dislike?
1. Centre console.
2. No Boot light.
3. ORVM's( I feel it is Insufficient for city drive)
4. Body roll.


Apart from Dislikes, I like Vista very much & it completely fulfilled my needs.


TASS in Vellore is really good so far & give proper response to customers.
I think if you go through my review, you may get some idea about Vista.
If you decided to go for Vista, first check about your nearby TASS quality of doing work. I've heared that TASS is not good in some Cities. If you have good experience/Review about your nearby TASS, you can go for it.

If you choose Vista, go for VX model, It has

1.ABS,
2. Bluetooth,
3. Inbuilt Music system with USB support & speakers,
4. Steering controls,
5. Driver seat Lumbar support,
6. Height adjustable driver seat,
7. Intelligent Rear Wiper,
8. front & Rear fog lamps,
9. 60:40 folding rear seats,
10. Centre locking with remote key,
11. Illuminated key hole,
12. Tray under co- driver seat, etc.,

I think I've covered all the features of Vista VX.

IMO, If you have good TASS in your area, you can go for Vista VX. It is a pure value for Money & really a wonderful fun machine to Drive

You can also refer:
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...new-tata-vista-vx-2012-first-impressions.html
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...-indica-vista-quadrajet-ownership-report.html
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...03-tata-indica-vista-vx-ownership-review.html
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...ws/4652-new-tata-indica-vista-test-drive.html
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...-my-first-ever-car-my-vista-qjd-aura-abs.html
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...w-tata-indica-vista-v-s-new-maruti-swift.html
appu thanx. even i had red your complete ownership review, the thing is that about the suspension. Please tell me something about suspension of indica vista!!
 
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appu thanx. even i had red your complete ownership review, the thing is that about the suspension. Please tell me something about suspension of indica vista!!
What suspension issue are you talking about ? Can you please elaborate more on the same?.
 
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What suspension issue are you talking about ? Can you please elaborate more on the same?.
actuallly suspension problem means
1.more shocks within the cabin
2.allingment problem
3. wear & tear of tyre soon
4. and even company gives only 35000 km warranty over suspension

And want to share one thing even my relative had vista quadrajet old model( before sedan version) i felt bumps and shocks within the car and sometimes on road my body was shaking left and right.
 
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I don't know what is the issue you mean about the Suspension[confused]

If you ask me about the suspension, I can say Vista got best Suspension in it.

Even Yesterday also I went to Hogenakkal with my Dad, Mom, Sister & her 4month old baby. top speed touched 110Km/hr. I don't feel that I'm at 110Km/hr.

In state Highways it absorbs all the patches & holes easily.

During my Sabarimala trip(1650Km) Myself only driven My Whitey for continous 5days in all types of road. I never felt any tired. I started from Vellore on 17th Nov & reached 21st Nov Night 10:00pm at Vellore. Then left to Chennai for work on 22nd itself & I don't feel that I travelled for 1650Km.
 
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actuallly suspension problem means
1.more shocks within the cabin
2.allingment problem
3. wear & tear of tyre soon
4. and even company gives only 35000 km warranty over suspension

And want to share one thing even my relative had vista quadrajet old model( before sedan version) i felt bumps and shocks within the car and sometimes on road my body was shaking left and right.
For points 1 and 4 any existing Vista owner can throw more lights.
But as far as point 2 and 3 are concerned, these are also the outcome of how we drive, what type of roads we drive daily. I have Punto, and I do wheel alignment every 5000 KM, that is purely because of the road I travel daily.

Hope this have cleared some of your doubts.
 
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I don't know what is the issue you mean about the Suspension[confused]

If you ask me about the suspension, I can say Vista got best Suspension in it.

Even Yesterday also I went to Hogenakkal with my Dad, Mom, Sister & her 4month old baby. top speed touched 110Km/hr. I don't feel that I'm at 110Km/hr.

In state Highways it absorbs all the patches & holes easily.

During my Sabarimala trip(1650Km) Myself only driven My Whitey for continous 5days in all types of road. I never felt any tired. I started from Vellore on 17th Nov & reached 21st Nov Night 10:00pm at Vellore. Then left to Chennai for work on 22nd itself & I don't feel that I travelled for 1650Km.
actuallly suspension problem means
1.more shocks within the cabin
2.allingment problem
3. wear & tear of tyre soon
4. and even company gives only 35000 km warranty over suspension

And want to share one thing even my relative had vista quadrajet old model( before sedan version) i felt bumps and shocks within the car and sometimes on road my body was shaking left and right.


I am newbie and my relatives force me to buy swift. But since my budget is not that much and even believe in tata but dont believe its suspension coz i am already using tata indica V2, where suspension is the major problem.
 
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Hi-I have a Vista TDi-not the same model you are searching for-but i do have some issues-when you go over a speedbraker at even 5-10km you can here the shock absorbers making a squishing sound-any faster and you here a rather unpleasant sound-this has been around for the last 2 yrs-no other issues though-goes over rough roads like a dream-the TDi is a good option if you have a budget constraint
 
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actuallly suspension problem means
1.more shocks within the cabin
2.allingment problem
3. wear & tear of tyre soon
4. and even company gives only 35000 km warranty over suspension

And want to share one thing even my relative had vista quadrajet old model( before sedan version) i felt bumps and shocks within the car and sometimes on road my body was shaking left and right.

I think your relative Vista's suspension lost its life. For my Black Indica(Previous car) I changed it suspesion on its 50,000Kms. Suspension life is depend on the road you use.

That is not an issue[glasses]

If you have any doubts, go to nearby TATA showroom & take an test drive on wrost roads. Then you decide[;)]
 
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For points 1 and 4 any existing Vista owner can throw more lights.
But as far as point 2 and 3 are concerned, these are also the outcome of how we drive, what type of roads we drive daily. I have Punto, and I do wheel alignment every 5000 KM, that is purely because of the road I travel daily.

Hope this have cleared some of your doubts.
dhramesh sir,
i want to know just one more thing........
what is the difference between new vista quadrajet and old vista quadarajet???

Not about the features but about the problems sought from old version to new version???
 
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dhramesh sir,
i want to know just one more thing........
what is the difference between new vista quadrajet and old vista quadarajet???

Not about the features but about the problems sought from old version to new version???
Sorry dude, But I have no idea about in and out of the difference between them. Again any Vista owner is a better to answer the query. Sorry dude. I feel [embarass]
 
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