Tata Storme vs Mahindra XUV5OO - Which One To Choose?

[swift&furious]

Sometimes, i feel that its hard for you guys who love XUV to prove a safari user wrong about his machine, one more example : Its like telling something wrong or complaining about a bullet to a bulleter

Yes, we all love our machines, but the bond/feel which certain vehicles create cannot be met by all others

I am aware its but still there is always something more to a safari, which we can say something like a character that is what which makes most of us love a safari/Bullet leaving aside its minor niggles

 

[raj_5004]

handling on high speeds I give it to xuv and I have maintained that from the very first page of this thread , although I will never corner at high speeds so for me that ability is of no use .
For someone who wants to corner ofcourse the xuv has advantage .

At normal speed I dint find the storme any less efficient in handling so ride and handling combo " as per my personal requirements are perfect in storme .

Its not only about cornering at high speeds Raja. I wont be doing 120 on a tight bend in the XUV, that would be foolishness.

Even at normal high speeds (say 80-100 kmph), the XUV is capable of sudden turn and sharp lane changes and stays more composed than the Storme. Thats what I mean by handling. Because of its squat stance, stiff suspension and lower C.O.G., the XUV is more eager to change directions without discomforting the passengers.

Now, I know many Storme owners and lovers will say even a Storme is comfortable in lane changes. Drive both back to back, you will notice the difference. The Storme rolls more and passengers would be aware or startled if you try such daring maneuvers in the Storme.

This is from my experience of driving the Storme. Those who dont agree are free to do so!

Now incase if someone want to off-road ( which I don't think I will ) the storme gives him added advantage .

If he has a 4x4.

both have their advantages and disadvantages.
Just to get a rough idea read here ->

Body-on-Frame vs. Unibody Construction | Web2Carz

Correct.

I had disappeared from this thread............

Again, I am gonna disappear from this thread.....

If you keep dis-appearing from the thread like this, it is not a wonder that you are not aware about the numerous times we have dicussed that Storme has lesser issues. Try to stay more on board to be in tune.

XUV supporters here were continously boasting about number of air bags, ESP etc, none of them warned the concerned XUV owner about simple and basic safety precaution about not to allow more than 7 people on board in XUV. Rather they liked the overloading adventure.

This thread is not to advise people how to drive. Our member here has his own brains and is capable enough to think about his safety, so why should we comment on it, unless asked?

Sometimes, i feel that its hard for you guys who love XUV to prove a safari user wrong about his machine, one more example : Its like telling something wrong or complaining about a bullet to a bulleter

LOLZ. Thats amusing.

Dear friend, do you seriously think that XUV users/lovers here are trying to prove Storme users wrong about the choice of their car? Dont you think we have much better things to do in life?

Listen friend, this thread is obviously to compare both the cars. When I say something negative about the Storme, it does not mean - "Look Storme user, your car is crap, sell it right away". And vice versa. And even if someone does mean it like that, do you think the owners care, as long as they are happy with their cars and enjoying it?

Secondly, a debate happens when someone says something about a car and I or someone else does not agree to it. For example, someone said XUV bounces around on rough patches. I am using the car daily on rough roads and I am sure it does not. So I will voice out my opinion. Rest is upto the readers to believe what they want to. Its as simple as that.

In the end, I spent my money on the XUV. Inspite of the multiple visits to the A.S.S. for nothing but just my apprehensions (will be updated in mu ownership report), I am totally loving and enjoying my car. If given a choice again, I would still confidently pick the XUV over the Storme because it suits my needs more than the Storme.

If you ask any Storme user, they may say the same thing. So, it is not about proving one car is inferior to the other. It is just a discussion on which car is better for what needs.

Yes, we all love our machines, but the bond/feel which certain vehicles create cannot be met by all others

Trust me, I have shared a very strong bond with all my cars. All car enthusiasts love their cars. Safari oozes nothing special. "Cannot be met by others" is a tall claim.

I am aware its but still there is always something more to a safari, which we can say something like a character that is what which makes most of us love a safari/Bullet leaving aside its minor niggles

I will not go into such vague assumptions.

 

[Raja]

slightly OT:
Since XUV has been ruled out, there is a scope for another thread " Ford Ecosport -the urban SUV" vs "Safari Storme-the real SUV"- which One to choose?

OT
Hahahahahaha that was a good one .

But be prepared we will see many such threads jeep wrangler vs xyz . Honda vezel vs xuv and so on and so forth .

@ raj-5004

I have myself done sudden lane changes in storme at 80-100 speed and honest to god I dint find any un settling or un comfortable feeling nor did my father and wife seating in the second row felt any sort of discomfort . Any storme owner on our forum can comment here .

If you wish we can do a test drive and try changing lanes at speed of 100 . Xuv will remain composed I agree but so does the storme .

Safari maybe will not be composed .

The xuv might feel more composed then storme but that difference is not at all so big at speeds of 80-100 . Above those speed I won't do lane cutting in either of the cars so it hardly matters to me which will be better .



Iam a sedate driver for me max speed on freeways too is 120kmph and I find bliss in both the cars at that speed .

 

[Gurrala74]

Friends,

Please don't break your heads on the following things

1. Storme is a SUV or Crossover, XUV is a SUV or crossover
2. Which chassis is good
3. Other members writing style/expertise or focus on particular view point on the vehicle
4. Thread is useful or not(Do not become a examiner of threads, that is the readers job)
5. Debate is good in a form of discussion and not in a form of argument or proving other person or vehicle is wrong

This thread is not started keeping in mind that XUV is a crossover and Storme is a SUV, it is started just because most of the buyers refer to Storme while buying XUV and refer to XUV while buying Storme as simple as that.

 

[swift&furious]

LOLZ. Thats amusing.

Dear friend, do you seriously think that XUV users/lovers here are trying to prove Storme users wrong about the choice of their car? Dont you think we have much better things to do in life?

Listen friend, this thread is obviously to compare both the cars. When I say something negative about the Storme, it does not mean - "Look Storme user, your car is crap, sell it right away". And vice versa. And even if someone does mean it like that, do you think the owners care, as long as they are happy with their cars and enjoying it?

Secondly, a debate happens when someone says something about a car and I or someone else does not agree to it. For example, someone said XUV bounces around on rough patches. I am using the car daily on rough roads and I am sure it does not. So I will voice out my opinion. Rest is upto the readers to believe what they want to. Its as simple as that.

In the end, I spent my money on the XUV. Inspite of the multiple visits to the A.S.S. for nothing but just my apprehensions (will be updated in mu ownership report), I am totally loving and enjoying my car. If given a choice again, I would still confidently pick the XUV over the Storme because it suits my needs more than the Storme.

If you ask any Storme user, they may say the same thing. So, it is not about proving one car is inferior to the other. It is just a discussion on which car is better for what needs.

When you say all this i remember about the Swift/Punto debate, i swear if you raise a Swift/Punto debate you will have something similar or even more cross discussions, and when it comes to cars , the grass is greener on our side and not on the other side

I rest it here

Trust me, I have shared a very strong bond with all my cars. All car enthusiasts love their cars. Safari oozes nothing special. "Cannot be met by others" is a tall claim.

Might be our perception varies, though i don't own a safari and its my BIL which i use, i have a similar kind of connect with the machine which i had with my bullet and do have with my 540DP

This is totally personal and i just shared my personal view, like how you shared yours

I will not go into such vague assumptions.

Might be you are so practical which is good for the current world which we live in, but i certainly do have some emotional connect with vehicles i own so i felt there are people who belong to the similar league which i belong to, and see things or enjoy things in that perspective

There was a guy who doesn't like off roading and when we unfortunately took him with us for a track for his timepass, he asked us after watching us for a long time, on why we waste money on diesel and the gear (when we told him the cost involved) and why do we kill time by unnecessarily by dropping your jeep on dirt and huge potholes, it was like for what fun do you do this ?

He is definitely a generous person who does many other social help and has involved in other generous work for the needed, but he was a wrong person in the wrong place, so in the END he would never get to know about it

Unless he is in the vehicle, unless he is in the driver seat and MAINLY unless he has the interest of getting associated with it

By no way or in any context had meant any offence to your logical and practical decision taken -throughout this post

 

[manojodungat]

Friends,

Please don't break your heads on the following things

1. Storme is a SUV or Crossover, XUV is a SUV or crossover
2. Which chassis is good
3. Other members writing style/expertise or focus on particular view point on the vehicle
4. Thread is useful or not(Do not become a examiner of threads, that is the readers job)
5. Debate is good in a form of discussion and not in a form of argument or proving other person or vehicle is wrong

This thread is not started keeping in mind that XUV is a crossover and Storme is a SUV, it is started just because most of the buyers refer to Storme while buying XUV and refer to XUV while buying Storme as simple as that.

Due to the nature of the thread title a comparison between the vehicles is inevitable. While doing so, every technical details of the vehicles in the context are bound to be covered which itself is the purpose of the forums like ours to help readers to take informed decisions while choosing cars.

For a person looking for a part time 4WD vehicle, XUV doesn't even come in to picture. The discussion is meaningful only if one is confused between a Storme 4x2 Vs XUV FWD/AWD. But unfortunately the title doesn't provide/allow such a differentiation.

 

[Gurrala74]

^^Manoj there is a saying

"Things are simple always, people make them critical"

So as the title is very simple for a common buyer and an expert buyer is different with his views and can draw any kind of conclusions !!

 

[Storme911]

Even at normal high speeds (say 80-100 kmph), the XUV is capable of sudden turn and sharp lane changes and stays more composed than the Storme. Thats what I mean by handling. Because of its squat stance, stiff suspension and lower C.O.G., the XUV is more eager to change directions without discomforting the passengers.

Last week i travelled from mumbai to kolhapur in storme and after pune was travelling between 100-120 continuously on 2 lane highway and since i was sitting in co driver seat i never felt discomfort while changing lane and infact after halt when i was at rear seat i didn't even realise that the car is changing lane and overtaking

My driver was continuously switching the lane never felt that discomfort

And "sudden" lane change in any car is going discomfort the passenger.isnt it ?

 

[raj_5004]

Last week i travelled from mumbai to kolhapur in storme and after pune was travelling between 100-120 continuously on 2 lane highway and since i was sitting in co driver seat i never felt discomfort while changing lane and infact after halt when i was at rear seat i didn't even realise that the car is changing lane and overtaking

My driver was continuously switching the lane never felt that discomfort

And "sudden" lane change in any car is going discomfort the passenger.isnt it ?

Very good. Now I knew Storme owners will come up with such posts... Why do you think I wrote this in my post above-

Now, I know many Storme owners and lovers will say even a Storme is comfortable in lane changes. Drive both back to back, you will notice the difference. The Storme rolls more and passengers would be aware or startled if you try such daring maneuvers in the Storme.

This is from my experience of driving the Storme. Those who dont agree are free to do so!

Notice the part in Bold.

Let me re-iterate this -

I have nothing against the Storme. Its a good car when compared to the Scorpio, Duster, etc. But it is a fact - the Storme rolls more than the XUV. Now how comfortable or uncomfortable you are with it - thats your personal prerogative. I do like a car which is more stable at higher speeds and I dont mind compromising on a bit of ride for it, hence I chose the XUV. Now, I will clarify this - I am not saying the Storme is not stable at higher speeds, but I will be more confident in the XUV doing three digit speeds than the Storme.

XUV has a stiffer suspension because of which the ride is harsher, but the roll is lesser. Storme has a softer suspension because of which the car rolls more than the XUV, but then offers a better ride. In the end, its your pick... I chose the former and you chose the latter!

P.S.: We achieved 150 pages of debate, fights and nonsense guys, great milestone!

 

[DJ bro]

In that case bro, the XUV is easily unsettled and made unstable even by small undulations at speeds whereas the Storme's setup is stable and absorbent even though it rolls! Now that unsettling makes everyone uncomfortable for sure...especially in the rear seats!

 

[MrRanger]

Very good. Now I knew Storme owners will come up with such posts... Why do you think I wrote this in my post above-



Notice the part in Bold.

Let me re-iterate this -

I have nothing against the Storme. Its a good car when compared to the Scorpio, Duster, etc. But it is a fact - the Storme rolls more than the XUV. Now how comfortable or uncomfortable you are with it - thats your personal prerogative. I do like a car which is more stable at higher speeds and I dont mind compromising on a bit of ride for it, hence I chose the XUV. Now, I will clarify this - I am not saying the Storme is not stable at higher speeds, but I will be more confident in the XUV doing three digit speeds than the Storme.

XUV has a stiffer suspension because of which the ride is harsher, but the roll is lesser. Storme has a softer suspension because of which the car rolls more than the XUV, but then offers a better ride. In the end, its your pick... I chose the former and you chose the latter!

P.S.: We achieved 150 pages of debate, fights and nonsense guys, great milestone!

I appreciate if your comments are unbiased,
to be frank STROME is very stable and offers very planted ride even at 3 digit speed, where as XUV is too bumpy as speed increases,

people who are keep saying that if they want a true off-road car then they go for gurkha or thar etc, in the same way if I want a car which can make great cornering at high speed then I go for sedan instead of XUV,
I tried cornering at high speed in XUV and XUV it is not even close to any sedan.

STORME is a SUV and built on frame construction is never meant to do high speed cornering, if my concern is just high speed cornering then I go for some low slung sedan instead of XUV(Im not a fool).

 

[Raja]

Very good. Now I knew Storme owners will come up with such posts... Why do you think I wrote this in my post above-



Notice the part in Bold.

What is the problem if he or others post their own experience of lane cutting on 100plus speeds as a owners of storme ? It is same as you are posting your experience. Like you they too have driven the xuv and storme and dint find any dramatic difference which you have experienced .

Let me re-iterate this -

I have nothing against the Storme. Its a good car when compared to the Scorpio, Duster, etc. But it is a fact - the Storme rolls more than the XUV

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Storme rolls more then xuv you are right , but it's not some dramatic difference in both at speeds of 80-100 when it comes to handling which you are saying .

Jarpickle and I was in storme 911's storme and storme911 he was easily cutting lanes and taking turns at 80-100 on Bandra flyover and nothing un settling was even felt inside the cabin . Jarpickle is free to share what he felt .

Now how comfortable or uncomfortable you are with it - thats your personal prerogative.

It is same as some don't find the ride quality of xuv harsh some find it very harsh .

Beside that why don't we someday try changing lanes at 80-100 in storme and xuv both when we meet for our Mumbai meet and experience for ourself how big actually is the difference ? If we want we will make a video too and post it here .

I do like a car which is more stable at higher speeds and I dont mind compromising on a bit of ride for it, hence I chose the XUV. Now, I will clarify this - I am not saying the Storme is not stable at higher speeds, but I will be more confident in the XUV doing three digit speeds than the Storme

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I don't know how many times you have driven the storme to come to this conclusion but all storme owners regularly drive the storme in triple speeds without any issue . Heck my wife too drove the storme and xuv back to back on the same exact road and she too dint find any dramatic difference in both the cars at 100 -130 speeds .
But yes you are free to have your own perception and believe in it .

XUV has a stiffer suspension because of which the ride is harsher, but the roll is lesser. Storme has a softer suspension because of which the car rolls more than the XUV, but then offers a better ride

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Rolls more yes but nothing is dramatic at speeds of 80-100 .

Nerul - new Mumbai has fortune motors and g3 motors . only a wall divide them . They have service road in front of the showrooms which is in absolute bad shape one can drive a storme and xuv back to back and check for themselves the ride quality over bad roads .
Then take the xuv and storme to palm beach road which is open road were you can take both the cars easily above 100+ speeds and see if there is some dramatic difference in both in lane cutting at speeds of 80-100 -120.

Incase you are free let me know we will go and try that anytime next week , or we will try lane cutting in our Mumbai meet in jan at sea link or Bandra fly over . Or whichever road you decide .

In the end, its your pick... I chose the former and you chose the latter!

+100

P.S.: We achieved 150 pages of debate, fights and nonsense guys, great milestone!

Great this milestone would have not been possible without you , me and all others who have dedicatedly contributed on this thread regularly and religiously

 

[raj_5004]

In that case bro, the XUV is easily unsettled and made unstable even by small undulations at speeds whereas the Storme's setup is stable and absorbent even though it rolls! Now that unsettling makes everyone uncomfortable for sure...especially in the rear seats!

You had mentioned the same thing a couple of pages back and I will give the same reply, but in a different way-

XUV's suspension setup - Stiff.
Cons: Crashes into potholes. Low speed ride is not very absorbent.
Pros: High speed ride and poise is great. Rolls lesser.

Storme's suspension setup - Soft.
Cons: Rolls more. Is bouncier at high speeds.
Pros: Much more absorbent. Low speed ride is great.

Its your choice to pick which one suits you more.

The above are my opinions. If someone feels the Storme has a soft suspension and a great ride and still does not even roll and the handling is great, in other words, the ride and handling is magical... then its okay, I am not in for a debate on that!

I appreciate if your comments are unbiased,
to be frank STROME is very stable and offers very planted ride even at 3 digit speed, where as XUV is too bumpy as speed increases,

See, you posted your experiences with both the cars and I posted mine. If you think that is bias, I cant help it.

When compared to the XUV, I do find the Storme rolls more and is not as surefooted at triple digit speeds. That has been my experience with the car.

Strangely, while I am accepting that Storme has a better ride, there is no problem. But when I state XUV has better handling, that is bias for you! Should I consider your comments as bias since even you are a Safari owner?

You want to see bias - 'XUV is the best car in the world, rest all cars be damned'!

people who are keep saying that if they want a true off-road car then they go for gurkha or thar etc, in the same way if I want a car which can make great cornering at high speed then I go for sedan instead of XUV,

If you notice some posts back, I had mentioned in a post to Raja that I am not foolish to corner at high speeds in the XUV. I have also mentioned there what I mean by handling. It is a combination of stability, roll and cornering.

STORME is a SUV and built on frame construction is never meant to do high speed cornering,

Like XUV is not built for off roading?

What is the problem if he or others post their own experience of lane cutting on 100plus speeds as a owners of storme ? It is same as you are posting your experience.

No problemo!

Just stating the fact that my earlier post itself contains the reply to their upcoming posts...

Storme rolls more then xuv you are right , but it's not some dramatic difference in both at speeds of 80-100 when it comes to handling which you are saying .

See, "dramatic" is a subjective word.

In that case, I would say there is not a dramatic difference in the ride quality of the Storme and the XUV! I test drove the Storme on the interior roads of Chandlivali. If you have been there, it is a really really bad section. The Storme did sway sideways on bigger potholes. But point is, there is a difference. Storme offers better ride and XUV offers better handling. Now, the intensity of the difference is difficult to measure.

Jarpickle and I was in storme 911's storme and storme911 he was easily cutting lanes and taking turns at 80-100 on Bandra flyover and nothing un settling was even felt inside the cabin . Jarpickle is free to share what he felt .

See, all these things are subjective and varies based on individual experiences. Now, if I drive a Storme after driving a Scorpio, it would feel much better. If I drive it after driving an Innova, it does not stand a chance.

Beside that why don't we someday try changing lanes at 80-100 in storme and xuv both when we meet for our Mumbai meet and experience for ourself how big actually is the difference ? If we want we will make a video too and post it here .

+10.

Nerul - new Mumbai has fortune motors and g3 motors . only a wall divide them . They have service road in front of the showrooms which is in absolute bad shape one can drive a storme and xuv back to back and check for themselves the ride quality over bad roads .

I have always maintained the Storme has a superior ride.

See Raja, when I am in my XUV, I am very happy with the ride. None of my friends or other occupants have complained about the ride of the XUV till now. Yes, if they sit in the Storme and then have a ride in the XUV, they may feel a difference.

Point here is - I like the current suspension setup of the XUV because it is not very uncomfortable like the Scorpio and Xylo and at the same time is stiff enough to be comfortable and stable at higher speeds with little roll.

My earlier car was a Punto - it also had a very stiff suspension. It also used to crash into potholes. Compared to that, the i20 has a softer suspension and felt pliant and more comfortable at slow speeds within city. But take the car to the highway and at those speeds, this kind of suspension shines.

I am sure almost all XUV owners will agree on one thing - at higher speeds, nothing affects the XUV. Potholes and ruts are dismissed off with a thud. Even humps and undulations of the road does not throw around the car. So, I personally do not feel XUV has a bad ride. I still agree Storme has a better ride though.

Then take the xuv and storme to palm beach road which is open road were you can take both the cars easily above 100+ speeds and see if there is some dramatic difference in both in lane cutting at speeds of 80-100 -120.

I have driven the Storme at high speeds (Eastern express highway) and that is the reason I commented.

Incase you are free let me know we will go and try that anytime next week , or we will try lane cutting in our Mumbai meet in jan at sea link or Bandra fly over . Or whichever road you decide .

Lets not get over enthusiastic and try dangerous driving on the road! Such maneuvers help in emergency situations, not to be practiced for the sake of a debate.

Great this milestone would have not been possible without you , me and all others who have dedicatedly contributed on this thread regularly and religiously

 

[Raja]

See, "dramatic" is a subjective word.

Dramatic is the bolded part ->

Even at normal high speeds (say 80-100 kmph), the XUV is capable of sudden turn and sharp lane changes and stays more composed than the Storme. Thats what I mean by handling. Because of its squat stance, stiff suspension and lower C.O.G., the XUV is more eager to change directions without discomforting the passengers.

Now, I know many Storme owners and lovers will say even a Storme is comfortable in lane changes. Drive both back to back, you will notice the difference. The Storme rolls more and passengers would be aware or startled if you try such daring maneuvers in the Storme.
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What you wrote is your subjective experience or fact ?
If it's subjective then ok but if you are claiming it as a fact then there is nothing what you are mentioning happens in the storme at 80-100 speed . Absolutely nothing , it's not at all a daring maneuver as your claiming it's a normal maneuver even if you relatively compare it to the xuv .

Iam saying this after driving both the storme and xuv back to back on the exact same road . High speeds maybe more then 130-140 yes , but at 80-100 strictly nothing .

My debate with you is only on the claim you made about lane changes on speeds 80-100 .


And why one must try sudden lane changes for what ?

See, all these things are subjective and varies based on individual experiences. Now, if I drive a Storme after driving a Scorpio, it would feel much better. If I drive it after driving an Innova, it does not stand a chance.

The above claim in your post which I bolded is your subjective experience ?

I have always maintained the Storme has a superior ride.

Similarly xuv handles better then storme on high digit speeds only at 80-100 there is negligible difference in things like lane cutting it's something which can't be even felt . My point is this .

See Raja, when I am in my XUV, I am very happy with the ride. None of my friends or other occupants have complained about the ride of the XUV till now. Yes, if they sit in the Storme and then have a ride in the XUV, they may feel a difference.

Exactly , similarly storme owners too are very happy with ride + handling setup . They might feel the difference only in xuv on high speeds and not at speeds like 80-100 .

Point here is - I like the current suspension setup of the XUV because it is not very uncomfortable like the Scorpio and Xylo and at the same time is stiff enough to be comfortable and stable at higher speeds with little roll.

+100 .

My earlier car was a Punto - it also had a very stiff suspension. It also used to crash into potholes.

OT ,punto has better ride quality then xuv saying because I , Superbad , dharmesh , Guralla have driven punto and xuv on exact same pot hole infact punto had a little more not much speed then xuv and the result is known to 4 of us . You can ask Superbad about the result if he remembers .

I am sure almost all XUV owners will agree on one thing - at higher speeds, nothing affects the XUV. Potholes and ruts are dismissed off with a thud. Even humps and undulations of the road does not throw around the car.

Exactly in same way storme owners or who have driven the storme many times will say at conservative high speeds 100-140 nothing effects the storme it's rock solid and stable . Above that I have never driven the storme or xuv and will never dare too since it's highly risky IMHO on Indian roads .

 

[jarpickle]

I was in the the back seat of the Storme and of the XUV on the same night and no I did not drink so there is no question of induced body roll

The Storme back seat ride was softer and it soaked up all the bumps and I did not feel anything.The ride felt a bit wavy compared to the XUV.

The XUV back seat ride was hard.I could feel mostly everything.It handles more like a car and it felt a bit more planted compared to the Storme.This does not mean the Storme will just up and leave the road.

This is the nature of these beasts.I felt this in the back seat with my bottom.

Neither of these two felt unsafe.

Lets not have these factions/camps and go at it.The discussion was about the nature of a monocoque and not whats its turned out to be.So we have established that monocoques can go off road.Albeit not to brutal ones yet.

Suzuki for instance married the BOF and Monocoque and made the Grand Vitara.This car won the raid this year.What this goes to show is you cannot go wrong with either.

If this does not satisfy your needs to argue more, what say someone sponsor a G sensor and we can find which car induces more G force in the seats.That will most definitely put an end to the argument.