Tata Safari 2.2 Dicor VX 4X4 : Black Bahamut

[avindu]

Congratulations again mastersquall. Safari looks best in black. Wish you miles of happiness with your new ride. Please do post more pictures, as that's the only treat we can expect from you, for now

 

[mastersquall]

@Master:
Even your will be very smooth,just drive it with a light foot(I mean don't exceed 3500 rpms now) and then you see after you cross 2000 kms.
The safari will become butter smooth just take care of its maintenance,because I have seen this in the villages that people are quiet not eager towards it(I too belong to jaat community and know the way vehicles are kept in villages and how the farmers keep their cars,they expect them to take the abuse like their Mahindra arjun 615 does).

seeing your location first i thought you are gurjar but it seams it turn out something else . i know what you want to say as i am gurjar i know how people here treat there car .

I buy only that car which i can maintain it. I don't like driving car with lot of problem .

hack i don't even go above 2k RPM

Congratulations again mastersquall. Safari looks best in black. Wish you miles of happiness with your new ride. Please do post more pictures, as that's the only treat we can expect from you, for now

thanks will do shortly with interior pic

 

[autosafari]

Mastersquall,

Its time to change your Avtar. The black beast (or beauty) will be stunning as an avtar pic

 

[jayadev]

Its time to change your Avtar. The black beast (or beauty) will be stunning as an avtar pic

Mastersquall Did it.

He abandoned his old friend with 3 litre heart for the new comer.

 

[TSIVipul]

@Master:
The new avatar is looking really great.

While about keeping the car under the 2k rpm is not quiet advisable from my side.You must always keep it at least above 2k rpm considering that this will keep the turbo alive and hence you will get a linear,smooth and really hassle free performance.also you will get quiet good FE too.

In fact I'll advise you to make upshifts once you reach at least 3000 rpm for first,second and third gear,and then you tell me how the Safari 2.2 feels and drives.

 

[mastersquall]

O_o Turbo require more fuel . If you are following what manual has said then you will find that gear change is required at 2-2.2K RPM . when turbo kicks in ECU send more fuel for proper combustion which still give less FE . you know i used to take out 15-16 FE highway and 11-12 in city 100% AC from my 3.0 using same way .

 

[mukeshus]

O_o Turbo require more fuel . If you are following what manual has said then you will find that gear change is required at 2-2.2K RPM . when turbo kicks in ECU send more fuel for proper combustion which still give less FE . you know i used to take out 15-16 FE highway and 11-12 in city 100% AC from my 3.0 using same way .

When turbo kicks in the fuel drawn is same, but more of air is compressed , drawn into engine and gets ignited, which gives those extra pickup instantly.

 

[mastersquall]

but you need fuel ignite so much air won't ?

But what i know above 2K RPM that is turbo FE was bad in my 3.0

 

[jayadev]

It is bit of wierd logic that in turbo zone engine uses excess air only.Technically it is right turbo adds advantage of additional air for burning fuel.

more engine rev's, harder it works means more it needs fuel.
stick to this rule always.

of course turbo increases efficiency of engine compared to NA engines

 

[TSIVipul]

@Mastersquall:
Guy you know what,Innova is less fuel efficient then the Safari,but still by making an efficient usage of the turbo(which results in lesser gearshifts and a quite easier drive too)I can get some really amazing FE figures.I have even once managed to get 14.8 overall on a trip from Jaipur to Meerut(night drive).

Actually the 2.2 VTT is a far more tech laden and sophisticated machine as compared to the 3.0,while the 3.0 DICOR was a higher displacement engine hence it was able to deliver better power figures in the N/A zone of rev range(as before turbo starts up,the engine is simply naturally aspirated),while the 2.2 is a different breed.It has a VGT which gives it quite a big amount of power and torque at a comparatively lower RPM(about 2000 rpm),but in the N/A zone,this engine is really weak.
Now its upon you to drive it in the weaker zone or drive it with adequate power,but remember my words,this VTT thing works well with turbo active,and if its inactive then it will make you shift gears,frustrated and after all this,you will get quite lesser FE as compared to the initial turbocharged power.
And yes,this is not from any manual,but my personal experience.
Now its your will if you want to drive your Safari 2.2 like and Indica or like a Safari.

 

[mastersquall]

actually i meet with few owner of 2.2 and one owner who has taken 2.2 where no safari has ever went . he advised me not to go above 2500 at all cost if you want to keep engine healthy as Keeping engine in lower power bands is good for any engine .

actually i got habit of changing gear at 2K RPM so its hard to remove but today gave it try worked OK for 5min. later i was back with same habit before even i could notice

 

[TSIVipul]

@Master:
See guy,you got away from the practical experience.
On one place you are advised never to cross 2500 rpm but if you drive on hills or at cruising speeds on highways,then you are always above 2500 rpm.I have once driven an Endy with identical power figure as of Safari in about 2.5 deep water for about 2.5 kms and what I felt was that I had to continuously keep it revving over 3000 rpm so that the engine does not bog down.But yes,one thing I want you to get straight is that keep yourself limited to 3000 rpm,always try to upshift either between 2500 and 3000 or at 3000 and you will find that your turbo is 100% active and a butter smooth and jerk-less performance.
While going uphills you will always exceed 2500 rpm limit even at many places like on high-spin turns you can reach even 4000 rpm in first gear,but being true the car sometimes deserve it too.
And you know what,at that rpm range you will feel like the whole power of the world is under your right foot.But this experience can be felt only while going uphills.

 

[mastersquall]

just got call from dealer that it will take 1 more week for my number to arrive :/

 

[THE XOVER]

@Mastersquall:
Guy you know what,Innova is less fuel efficient then the Safari,but still by making an efficient usage of the turbo(which results in lesser gearshifts and a quite easier drive too)I can get some really amazing FE figures.I have even once managed to get 14.8 overall on a trip from Jaipur to Meerut(night drive).

Actually the 2.2 VTT is a far more tech laden and sophisticated machine as compared to the 3.0,while the 3.0 DICOR was a higher displacement engine hence it was able to deliver better power figures in the N/A zone of rev range(as before turbo starts up,the engine is simply naturally aspirated),while the 2.2 is a different breed.It has a VGT which gives it quite a big amount of power and torque at a comparatively lower RPM(about 2000 rpm),but in the N/A zone,this engine is really weak.
Now its upon you to drive it in the weaker zone or drive it with adequate power,but remember my words,this VTT thing works well with turbo active,and if its inactive then it will make you shift gears,frustrated and after all this,you will get quite lesser FE as compared to the initial turbocharged power.
And yes,this is not from any manual,but my personal experience.
Now its your will if you want to drive your Safari 2.2 like and Indica or like a Safari.

Thanks TSIVipul your post really explained the tecnical difference between 2.2 and 3.0 L dicor, yes I voted for your reputation, keep bringing good info on our forum,cheers.

Yours XOVER

 

[TSIVipul]

@Mastersquall:
Any recent updates on service and drives???
I am really waiting to hear your initial ownership experience.

@Xover:
that was what I have experienced from my feet and mind while driving.Still,what's this repo thing?