Tata Hexa Finally Launched. Priced @ ₹11.99 Lakh (Details: Pg.68)

[navnit013]

seriously you will say anything to defend the car ? i am really surprised at your statement. there should be less and less variants with more features as standard fitment then only new segment first features can be introduced.

as a customer you demand features at a lower price and not to give a thumbs up to the company for not providing features at lower variants.

Since my post lacked 'clarity' let me continue.


I saw a discussion on variants of Hexa and how ill equipped the lower variants are compared to the top variants.

Well, if thats the case, I think its a good thing. As a customer, you are not confused looking at the variants. You are in a clear state of mind when booking the car, as in what is missing from the lower variants etc etc. Hence the higher number of bookings for the top variant I think. Clarity.

You want lesser and lesser variants. Guess what, TATA has given you just that. 3 variants. Therz a clear 'variation' between 'variants'. Thats my point.

As a customer I cant demand, I can only buy what I feel is best for me from the things available in the market at my budget. You have to pay the price for the technology, cant just demand it to be priced lower.

Oh by the way. I would just keep one variant and sign off. I am anti variant guy.

 

[gearhead2]

.........Toyota can do whatever they want like not providing a music system in a 17 lakhs car. Don't see anyone complaining.

Pity really - on the other hand Mr. GTO can do his best on his forum to tear down Toyota's castle - to no effect! Rather like Quixote tilting at the windmill!

 

[kvraghav]

No one complaining when Crysta Changed the Tyre dimension to prevent the Tyre bursts. A company that big cannot handle large Alloy wheels? If you are keeping the vehicles for 5 years or more, Hexa is better than Crysta. The depreciation difference is less.

 

[kkn13]

No one complaining when Crysta Changed the Tyre dimension to prevent the Tyre bursts. A company that big cannot handle large Alloy wheels? If you are keeping the vehicles for 5 years or more, Hexa is better than Crysta. The depreciation difference is less.

Not really
Also tyre burst issues were only 1-2 cases, we have an Innova and a Crysta(for my grandparents) in my household
No issues at all
The tyre burst incidents were said to be caused by low psi filled in the tyres but Toyota did the right thing and looked into the tyres anyways larger profile tyres arent suited for Indian roads. Such issues are nothing new and every company has gone through it and rectified it even XUV 500 had similar issues

If you are gonna brickbat Toyota about tyres, what about Tata charging people for 5th Alloy wheel even though the Hexa in question came with steel wheel.
What about the most notorious problem with Tata X0 platform - bent front wheels because car was too front heavy.

What about numerous issues that Aria owners faced , what about the fact that it was discontinued so shortly and still had so many niggles.

XUV 500 is a good example of product+ marketing done fairly right, the 1st gen had tonnes of niggles but today , people still recommend it because its fairly sorted out now despite the initial setbacks and backward interior quality

Hexa might be a vfm product but you cant judge and call out Toyota which clearly has earned its prowess in the market, so much so that people are willing to shell out so much more for the Innova after all these years.

A good example of how Toyota has met its match is the Endeavour which has clearly given Toyota Fortuner a beating.
Or even the Ertiga which at half the price of the regular Innova(not crysta), quickly became popular in smaller towns etc.

Tata has a long way to prove itself, their products are certainly vfm for what they offer but not yet enough to directly compare and pass statements at established players who are still unaffected by the launch of the Hexa

As for Tiago, certainly it has given Hyundai and Maruti a tough competition

As for depreciation , I can see 2008 model Innovas go for 5.3L minimum on OLX Mumbai whereas 2014 Arias are going for 3L.

Also what about maintenance costs? Innova servicing costs barely crosses 10-15L after heavy use
In around 1.5 years, we have spent just 25k which includes a brake pad change etc since our running is very very high and we have crossed 40,000km in such short time with our Innova.
Crysta usage is lesser since my grandparents use it- 20,000km and maintenance is 15k so far , which includes bumper touch up paint since Mumbai roads always have people trying to squeeze into negligible spaces in traffic

 

[AbhisekVerma]

kkn How can you say that only 1-2 cases of tyre bursts reported on Crysta? Isn't it blindly saving Crysta? Go to team-bhp thread and see that a single owner faced this issue 2 times that too on both R17 and R16 tyres and these 2 cases are for one person alone. There are several other cases if you go through the threads. Also 3L for Aria is too less (not sure if thats the max you found unbelievable). If someone selling it at that price is insane and I would say much better offer than buying an old Innova for sure. Atleast I would ANYDAY prefer a new Aria over an aged Innova. And Aria and Hexa re two different vehicles. Aria was overpriced when it was released and was not designed well especially from the rear. But Hexa has done these corrections and taken premium to another level.
I find it insane for people justifying higher price tags for products which are grossly overpriced. Definitely not consumer centric approach. Hexa's OR price is much less and makes better economic sense IMHO especially if you're considering long term purchase. And Tata's are fairly reliable now a days. Ask any Aria owner and he would tell you the same about reliability. ASS is vastly improved too.

 

[kvraghav]

I do not want to quote a long post, so here it is:
1) Toyota Crysta Tyre burst is because of wrong alloy design which pinches the low profile tyres. If someone expects to check tyre pressure daily to prevent a hazard, then it is not good engineering. Who will account for the slight pressure increase during day time? This is exactly the reason why toyota recalled the tyres. Mixing invoice issue with tyre burst is simple defending.
2) Regarding endeavor vs fortuner, please compare the numbers. Its 4 times more.
3) Comparison wise, lets say 2008 model Tata safari and innova. What is the price difference? 3 lakhs?
4) regarding maintenance, my 2008 safari has run more than 1.2l and the last 50k was in 3 years. I do not spend more than 10-15k per service that too every year since the interval is 15k.

I am saying take the car on merits at least on these forums where we unlike other uninformed people do not follow crowd mentality.Simply said, it is up to people choice. I am ready to have couple of visits more to service center in worst case if it saves me a EMI of 10k per month(One home loan?) and also provides me power to weight ration of 70bhp/ton against 60bhp/ton which only decreases with more load for 5 years just to get same cost difference after 5-6 years.

 

[NM9488]

Tata Hexa so far : 2.5 Months 8,000 bookings, 4,000 deliveries

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Seems like the delivered cars are majorly top end XT/A/4x4 variants ! seeing the waiting periods of 8 weeks for lower variants i'm hoping for a rejig on features for the lower variants soon .

Attaching Car sales information from Team Bhp for TML Hexa. If as per rumored news TML has sold 4000 Hexa's till date, actual sales chart shows its around 3464 (1498+1026+940) for 2.5 months. If TML is going by approximate figures then it should be 3500 not 4000.
Unable to understand whom to Trust these days?

 

[Akash1886]

Attaching Car sales information for TML Hexa. If as per rumored news TML has sold 4000 Hexa's till date, actual sales chart shows its around 3464 (1498+1026+940) for 2.5 months. If TML is going by approximate figures then it should be 3500 not 4000.
Unable to understand whom to Trust these days?

Do these numbers also include dealer display cars and TD Cars pan India? If so, then I guess, either its times to re-assign the Hexa Variants or push up production to further reduce the waiting period. I have been informed that the top spec is most selling one in Hexa. So, is it that people are not finding the other variants as appealing in terms of features or are they feeling that based on features, the lower variants are overpriced? It might also be possible that people still at the back of their minds fear the diesel ban.

Regards

Akash

 

[gearhead2]

I do not want to quote a long post, so here it is:
1) Toyota Crysta Tyre burst is because of wrong alloy design which pinches the low profile tyres. If someone expects to check tyre pressure daily to prevent a hazard, then it is not good engineering. Who will account for the slight pressure increase during day time? This is exactly the reason why toyota recalled the tyres. Mixing invoice issue with tyre burst is simple defending.
2) Regarding endeavor vs fortuner, please compare the numbers. Its 4 times more.
3) Comparison wise, lets say 2008 model Tata safari and innova. What is the price difference? 3 lakhs?
4) regarding maintenance, my 2008 safari has run more than 1.2l and the last 50k was in 3 years. I do not spend more than 10-15k per service that too every year since the interval is 15k.

I am saying take the car on merits at least on these forums where we unlike other uninformed people do not follow crowd mentality.Simply said, it is up to people choice. I am ready to have couple of visits more to service center in worst case if it saves me a EMI of 10k per month(One home loan?) and also provides me power to weight ration of 70bhp/ton against 60bhp/ton which only decreases with more load for 5 years just to get same cost difference after 5-6 years.

Thanks Raghav! - a well thought-out and well-reasoned post, and enlightening too.
Regards,
Shashanka

 

[InsaneTurbo]

Attaching Car sales information from Team Bhp for TML Hexa. If as per rumored news TML has sold 4000 Hexa's till date, actual sales chart shows its around 3464 (1498+1026+940) for 2.5 months. If TML is going by approximate figures then it should be 3500 not 4000.
Unable to understand whom to Trust these days?

The numbers are confusing with the data in our hand,assuming 400 units of test drive cars in january we can assume roughly around 3000 Hexas on road right now. It seems like they are currently shipping out at an average of 1000 units per month , may be higher compared to storme & endeavour , but much lower than Xuv,Fortuner clocking at 2k per month consistently ,not taking Innova numbers as its clubbed numbers of innova & crysta and the numbers are primarily driven by taxi operators .

Tata Motors might be happy with bookings of XT variants, But i wish they equip lower variants a bit more like fog lamps & lower size alloys for XM variants .

XM with stunning alloys from Facebook​ :

 

[kkn13]

^^ Regular Innova is no longer sold, its only Crysta now

 

[InsaneTurbo]

^^ Regular Innova is no longer sold, its only Crysta now

They relaunched older one!

 

[abhijeetp]

I feel Tata must have production capacity of around 1000 Hexas per month and they could be using it mostly for the top variants currently.
The extra dispatches in the previous 2 months might be the productions from Nov-Dec time frame.

Selling on an averaging 1000 hexas per month is no mean feat for Tata in this segment (18-20 Lakhs).
It is a confident start and will gradually increase as they increase the capacity and start or increase the XM/XE dispatches.

Personally, I prefer a vehicle which is not seen every where :-) . In sales, it does not need to beat XUV or take on Crysta. As long as they have a decent number and the ASS are able to support it , it is fine.

 

[kkn13]

They relaunched older one!

Source? I dont see any info on this
If so, its a good move and Ill get even more parts support in the long run for my car :D

 

[tdcarlover]

I feel if Tata can get back the Hexa to be reliable and the ASS even half decent, it will see 2-3000 sales easily per month-people need to believe that it is an alternate to the XUV and Innova. However they should possibly have a very low priced entry model which can be for the taxi segment-if the savings are big compared with the competition it can do v well