Review: LED Headlight Conversion Bulbs For Cars & Bikes
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#92
There are separate LED h1 & h7 bulbs available. I suggest you surf Ebay/ Aliexpress and choose CREE high power ones.
Yes Its creepy how these sites can eek out the money without following Full satisfactory authorization steps. I hope they implement more security measures soon.
Hi bhvm,
Finally i placed an order for the 30W LED's from Aliexpress 2015 NEWest CREE LED H4 Bulb Motor Bike Motorcycle Headlight Conversion Kit DC 8V 48V 30W 3000lm Hi/Lo H4 p43t xenon white bulb-in Light Source from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group
Cost me around 1370 INR.
My question.. is it safe to order things from Aliexpress?. I used icici debit card and there was no sort of authentication for processing payment. Just card number and cvv required. giving me creeps!![[confused]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Confused.gif "Confused [confused]")
Finally i placed an order for the 30W LED's from Aliexpress 2015 NEWest CREE LED H4 Bulb Motor Bike Motorcycle Headlight Conversion Kit DC 8V 48V 30W 3000lm Hi/Lo H4 p43t xenon white bulb-in Light Source from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group
Cost me around 1370 INR.
My question.. is it safe to order things from Aliexpress?. I used icici debit card and there was no sort of authentication for processing payment. Just card number and cvv required. giving me creeps!
Hey bhvm, can you please post pics how you have installed the bulbs. Received the 2nd bulb today but don't know where to put the led driver and what to do with the stock bulb lock and don't know if the cover will get closed.
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#94
Hello AHC,
I do not have any pics of the Install, Unfortunately. But let me tell you, the install is quite tricky.
I had to redo the install a few times so that the cover would fit properly.
Here's the usual step-
1> Remove the ring from LED Bulb.
2> Install this ring first. Use the stock bulb clip to secure the ring.
3> connect the driver to stock H4 plug, try pushing in the driver & Plug into the depth of headlight (between reflector & outer housing)
4> Insert the LED bulb now into affixed Ring and twist lock it in Place.
5> Redo the alignment.
I do not have any pics of the Install, Unfortunately. But let me tell you, the install is quite tricky.
I had to redo the install a few times so that the cover would fit properly.
Here's the usual step-
1> Remove the ring from LED Bulb.
2> Install this ring first. Use the stock bulb clip to secure the ring.
3> connect the driver to stock H4 plug, try pushing in the driver & Plug into the depth of headlight (between reflector & outer housing)
4> Insert the LED bulb now into affixed Ring and twist lock it in Place.
5> Redo the alignment.
Hi All!
I received my ordered LED bulb last monday and today i got time to check it on my motorcycle today![[:)]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Smile.gif "Smile [:)]")
I received only a single adapter with the bulb, H4..no problem though, i had ordered only h4. Nice build and design of the bulb.
Comparing with a Halogen H4
but the product i received had a few cracks at the rear end of the fan cover. i can live with it though (chalega! :P) if i ask for return, thats going to take a decade more and im not going to do that.
Many thanks to you bhvm for suggesting me this bulb :) if not for your detailed reviews, i wouldnt hav bought this quality product. thank you!!![[cheers]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Cheers.gif "Cheers [cheers]")
I received my ordered LED bulb last monday and today i got time to check it on my motorcycle today
I received only a single adapter with the bulb, H4..no problem though, i had ordered only h4. Nice build and design of the bulb.
Comparing with a Halogen H4
but the product i received had a few cracks at the rear end of the fan cover. i can live with it though (chalega! :P) if i ask for return, thats going to take a decade more and im not going to do that.
Many thanks to you bhvm for suggesting me this bulb :) if not for your detailed reviews, i wouldnt hav bought this quality product. thank you!!
Im not sure if the images are visible. Adding them as attachments here.
regarding using on my motorcycle (GS150r), i didnt install it via the reflector, but just checked its working by plugging it into the socket.
Prior to switching it on, i made the connection to DC from my AC setting ( disconnected the battery to headlight wire on the stock Regulator Rectifier and connected battery directly to headlights) just for temporary sake and the output was very good! My reflector is gonna love it!![[:D]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Big%20Smile.gif "Big Smile [:D]")
And yes, there was a bit of heating at the aluminium sink portions.
Now, i'll perform the full DC conversion sometime by next month when i get the time and post the results. Initially, i was planning to get a piaggio ape RR unit, rewind coil(stock has 12 poles) using 19 or 18swg wire and then use it, but today while checking, i noticed something which kinda tells me that , maybe the coil rewinding may not be necessary.
After the temporary DC connection (done above), i used a multimeter to check voltage across the battery terminals and it was around 12.6V. I turned the ignition on, and switched on headlights at full beam and the battery as expected started discharging and gradually was around 11.29V at around 2 mins of on time.
Then i started the engine and left it to idle (at around 1400 rpm). The voltage reading increased slightly and then there was slow discharge. voltage reading hovered around 11.6V. Increasing rpm over 2500rpm, voltage started increasing.
My conclusion, even if i use the stock RR unit in DC wiring without rewinding coil, i should be able to "survive" ( with the present riding condition, traffic encountered etc).
So, i'm going to do the next easiest thing, just to remain safe. I'm going to use a Pulsar UG4's RR unit (which is factory DC). Remove ground from my stock coil and connect the stator wires to the Pulsar RR and do the DC. Stock coil should be able to keep my battery healthy i think.![[angel]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Angel.gif "Angel [angel]")
Or, is there something very wrong in my approach?. bhvm, your thoughts?
regarding using on my motorcycle (GS150r), i didnt install it via the reflector, but just checked its working by plugging it into the socket.
Prior to switching it on, i made the connection to DC from my AC setting ( disconnected the battery to headlight wire on the stock Regulator Rectifier and connected battery directly to headlights) just for temporary sake and the output was very good! My reflector is gonna love it!
And yes, there was a bit of heating at the aluminium sink portions.
Now, i'll perform the full DC conversion sometime by next month when i get the time and post the results. Initially, i was planning to get a piaggio ape RR unit, rewind coil(stock has 12 poles) using 19 or 18swg wire and then use it, but today while checking, i noticed something which kinda tells me that , maybe the coil rewinding may not be necessary.
After the temporary DC connection (done above), i used a multimeter to check voltage across the battery terminals and it was around 12.6V. I turned the ignition on, and switched on headlights at full beam and the battery as expected started discharging and gradually was around 11.29V at around 2 mins of on time.
Then i started the engine and left it to idle (at around 1400 rpm). The voltage reading increased slightly and then there was slow discharge. voltage reading hovered around 11.6V. Increasing rpm over 2500rpm, voltage started increasing.
My conclusion, even if i use the stock RR unit in DC wiring without rewinding coil, i should be able to "survive" ( with the present riding condition, traffic encountered etc).
So, i'm going to do the next easiest thing, just to remain safe. I'm going to use a Pulsar UG4's RR unit (which is factory DC). Remove ground from my stock coil and connect the stator wires to the Pulsar RR and do the DC. Stock coil should be able to keep my battery healthy i think.
Or, is there something very wrong in my approach?. bhvm, your thoughts?
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#97
Hello there
The bulb is looking great. I appears it got pressed during shipping, causing cracks on fan mounts. I'd suggest to add a bit of Fevi Quick/ Epoxy on the cracks so that they don't widen on bad indian roads!
I personally haven't done AC-DC conversion at stator so i'd like other experts to chime in.
The bulb is looking great. I appears it got pressed during shipping, causing cracks on fan mounts. I'd suggest to add a bit of Fevi Quick/ Epoxy on the cracks so that they don't widen on bad indian roads!
I personally haven't done AC-DC conversion at stator so i'd like other experts to chime in.
I'm not sure about that, since the packing cardboard was intact, no signs of bending or pressing. The packing was excellent in fact!. My suspicion is that they were over-tightened. Out of curiosity, i tried loosening the screws, but they were too tight!, so i decided to leave them at that. I'll try using feviquick. Thanks!
Hello bhvm,
My LED headlight bulb upgrade plan ended with sad.
I ordered the 40W (3 leds) through eBay. When I contacted seller, seller told me he has another
LED product for 40W with 8 leds with extra Rs. 200/- and he mentioned this will be brighter.
So I asked him to send that to me. After I installed I found this is not the good one.
So I informed the seller and he asked me to raise a claim to eBay. I raised a claim and eBay said
“You worked with seller out of eBay and it can not be processed” and they closed the case.
Then seller asked me to return that product to him and he agreed to send to me the item which
I ordered originally. So sent the product through speed post. Seller received the item and he sent
back the LED 40W (3leds) to me through India post registered parcel. I received the parcel and open it and shocked. The box was empty. I called the seller and he showed me the weight and other details through whatsup. So it means it was steal in transit by India post. I have raised a complaint to India post and still no reply from them and the case is pending with them.
Very disappointed.
My LED headlight bulb upgrade plan ended with sad.
I ordered the 40W (3 leds) through eBay. When I contacted seller, seller told me he has another
LED product for 40W with 8 leds with extra Rs. 200/- and he mentioned this will be brighter.
So I asked him to send that to me. After I installed I found this is not the good one.
So I informed the seller and he asked me to raise a claim to eBay. I raised a claim and eBay said
“You worked with seller out of eBay and it can not be processed” and they closed the case.
Then seller asked me to return that product to him and he agreed to send to me the item which
I ordered originally. So sent the product through speed post. Seller received the item and he sent
back the LED 40W (3leds) to me through India post registered parcel. I received the parcel and open it and shocked. The box was empty. I called the seller and he showed me the weight and other details through whatsup. So it means it was steal in transit by India post. I have raised a complaint to India post and still no reply from them and the case is pending with them.
Very disappointed.
Thread Starter
#100
Thats a sad one anrasg, The Speedpost is here to blame. I was hoping that their systems have improved but this is shocking. BTW, which whom are you dealing on ebay?
And yes, I am aware of the quirky case handling manners of Ebay. They're unpredictable.
And yes, I am aware of the quirky case handling manners of Ebay. They're unpredictable.
I ordered the below
http://cgi.ebay.in/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=281919760798&view=all&tid=1549609284018
He sent the below (now only he put this online) which I have returned to him
40W Cree LED H4 Head Light Bulb HI LOW Beam Bike CAR 6000K 3000K ALL IN ONE | eBay
But I have asked him to send it through some reliable way. He choose the cheapest way.
His name is Dev792 (Davinder Singh)
http://cgi.ebay.in/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=281919760798&view=all&tid=1549609284018
He sent the below (now only he put this online) which I have returned to him
40W Cree LED H4 Head Light Bulb HI LOW Beam Bike CAR 6000K 3000K ALL IN ONE | eBay
But I have asked him to send it through some reliable way. He choose the cheapest way.
His name is Dev792 (Davinder Singh)
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Thread Starter
#102
The 40W LED has poorer Design. The 4 LED lamps on each side present a much wider light emission causing glare and floodlight effect. Also, the LEDs are not Ligned up in position of Original H4 Filament. Please check Pics from rg27 above to understand what I'm saying.
P.s- It now appears that seller has changed 40W, 3 LED bulbs into 40W 4-LED designs. I checked links from page 4,5,6. He has changed all of them.
P.s- It now appears that seller has changed 40W, 3 LED bulbs into 40W 4-LED designs. I checked links from page 4,5,6. He has changed all of them.
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Hi bhvm. Were you able to fit back the bulb cover at the back of the housing ? I don't think the cover will close after the led is installed ? If we don't close it the dust and water will go inside the headlights ?
Thread Starter
#104
yes I was able to close the cover. just stuff that small ballast sideways into reflector. don't let the cover open, it will quickly ruin the headlight.
last option is to make a hole in the cover so you can place ballast outside. then seal the hole with silicone.
last option is to make a hole in the cover so you can place ballast outside. then seal the hole with silicone.
Hello All!
Finally, i found some time to do the LED installation. To be honest, i'm not satisfied with the high beam. For low beam it is very nice!.. a white flood of light appears before you and eclipses the other's vehicle and their headlights under its brightness. It really is good!
This comes without hurting any oncommer in the eyes. I checked it at a distance of 8 metres and approx 150-160cms height.. and not does NOT DAZZLE at all!
You can see in the picture of the Alto below, the light shines at the headlights of the car. The distance from the car to my motorcycle was approx 7-8 metres.
Initially, i adjusted the headlight screw at the back of my reflector to adjust it to lowest possible level, but the throw was just too low. I mean, the other vehicles' headlights are ALL dazzling at you now, since the light is very low, there is darkness beyond that. Now, i have lifted the light level more. ( the pictures before the car is after adjusting screw)
Problems:
1) headlight indicator is not working.. i dont know if i would check it soon, because opening the headlight assy is sooo tricky in my bike!
2) Yes.. the high beam does not have much reach as before. i'm not sure if that is the case only for my reflector, but okay.![[roll]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Roll.gif "Roll Eyes [roll]")
3) I have only given the headlight direct connection to battery. I'm still in search for a UG4 pulsar RR unit to touch the coil and wiring. Should do that Conversion ASAP!. I was sooo tempted to try this without any modifications. Plus i checked my battery voltage today morning after using the lights yesterday night. It was healthy at 12.4V.
4) A pair of 3W LED pilot lamps are on its way from Aliexpress :D.. they would replace the yellow 5W T10 bulbs.
So... fingers crossed!
Finally, i found some time to do the LED installation. To be honest, i'm not satisfied with the high beam. For low beam it is very nice!.. a white flood of light appears before you and eclipses the other's vehicle and their headlights under its brightness. It really is good!
This comes without hurting any oncommer in the eyes. I checked it at a distance of 8 metres and approx 150-160cms height.. and not does NOT DAZZLE at all!
You can see in the picture of the Alto below, the light shines at the headlights of the car. The distance from the car to my motorcycle was approx 7-8 metres.
Initially, i adjusted the headlight screw at the back of my reflector to adjust it to lowest possible level, but the throw was just too low. I mean, the other vehicles' headlights are ALL dazzling at you now, since the light is very low, there is darkness beyond that. Now, i have lifted the light level more. ( the pictures before the car is after adjusting screw)
Problems:
1) headlight indicator is not working.. i dont know if i would check it soon, because opening the headlight assy is sooo tricky in my bike!
2) Yes.. the high beam does not have much reach as before. i'm not sure if that is the case only for my reflector, but okay.
3) I have only given the headlight direct connection to battery. I'm still in search for a UG4 pulsar RR unit to touch the coil and wiring. Should do that Conversion ASAP!. I was sooo tempted to try this without any modifications. Plus i checked my battery voltage today morning after using the lights yesterday night. It was healthy at 12.4V.
4) A pair of 3W LED pilot lamps are on its way from Aliexpress :D.. they would replace the yellow 5W T10 bulbs.
So... fingers crossed!
