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#136
yes. go ahed.
Its far more expensive than i'd like though.
Its far more expensive than i'd like though.
Review: LED Headlight Conversion Bulbs For Cars & Bikes
- Thread Starter bhvm
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Hi bhvm and other experts,
I am not happy with the high beam of my 2006 Corolla and I want good upgrade/change the high beam bulb for highway riding. I don't want to block the vision of the oncoming traffic with the headlight, since I myself get irritated with some headlights while driving. What is the recommended bulb for my purpose.
I am a noob when it comes to lighting. Please help.
KK
I am not happy with the high beam of my 2006 Corolla and I want good upgrade/change the high beam bulb for highway riding. I don't want to block the vision of the oncoming traffic with the headlight, since I myself get irritated with some headlights while driving. What is the recommended bulb for my purpose.
I am a noob when it comes to lighting. Please help.
KK
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#138
KK, High beam has a purpose. If you are driving in High beam it will irritate oncomers no matter what bulbs.
The best option is to Upgrade your LOW BEAMS and drive in low beam mode. High beam shall be reserved for Highway use, Where proper Dividers/Plants are present.
It appears Corolla uses separate bulbs for High & Low. Do present a photo of your headlight and User manual (Depicting bulb type) for us to decide on the bulbs. Then we can elaborate on options like HID, LED Etc.
The best option is to Upgrade your LOW BEAMS and drive in low beam mode. High beam shall be reserved for Highway use, Where proper Dividers/Plants are present.
It appears Corolla uses separate bulbs for High & Low. Do present a photo of your headlight and User manual (Depicting bulb type) for us to decide on the bulbs. Then we can elaborate on options like HID, LED Etc.
Thanks for the revert. Yes, of course, I strictly use High Beam only on highways which have separate lanes and don't use them in the city whatsoever.
I would post an image with the extract from the manual soon after I reach home.
KK
I would post an image with the extract from the manual soon after I reach home.
KK
Hi bhvm,
Here are the extract form the owners manual and image of headlight.
As per the owners manual:
High beam - 60w - HB3
Low beam - 51w - HB4
I would use the low beam mostly (inside city and general use) and intend to use high beam only on highways which has separate lanes with dividers. I am looking at bulbs which does not cause high glare or inconvenience to the oncoming traffic. Please suggest me some replacements. Reason for replacement is I am feeling insufficient light and throw during highway drives.
PS: I cannot spend too much on the bulbs and looking at a budget one which suffice my requirements.
This link might help Toyota replacement bulb guide
Thanks in advance.
KK
Here are the extract form the owners manual and image of headlight.
As per the owners manual:
High beam - 60w - HB3
Low beam - 51w - HB4
I would use the low beam mostly (inside city and general use) and intend to use high beam only on highways which has separate lanes with dividers. I am looking at bulbs which does not cause high glare or inconvenience to the oncoming traffic. Please suggest me some replacements. Reason for replacement is I am feeling insufficient light and throw during highway drives.
PS: I cannot spend too much on the bulbs and looking at a budget one which suffice my requirements.
This link might help Toyota replacement bulb guide
Thanks in advance.
KK
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Hello KK,
Corolla seems to be using American Standard bulbs (9005,9006). These are the same bulbs as my Fortuner. Do let me know your budget as there are many ways to make these lights better.
For a start, you can upgrade to LED bulbs here-
UGLARE - 40W 4000LM 4300K HB4/9006 LED Headlight Conversion Kits | eBay
UGLARE - 40W 4000LM 5000K 9005/HB3 LED Headlight Conversion Kits | eBay
Corolla seems to be using American Standard bulbs (9005,9006). These are the same bulbs as my Fortuner. Do let me know your budget as there are many ways to make these lights better.
For a start, you can upgrade to LED bulbs here-
UGLARE - 40W 4000LM 4300K HB4/9006 LED Headlight Conversion Kits | eBay
UGLARE - 40W 4000LM 5000K 9005/HB3 LED Headlight Conversion Kits | eBay
Pardon my ignorance when it comes to lighting. What does this kit means. Can't I just change the bulb, like a simpler replacement. I am not looking at any fancy or high performance stuff.
KK
KK
Hello KK_HakunaMatata
These are simple plug-n-play kits only. The bulb will go in place of your stock bulb and your stock power supply will connect to the LED driver. The driver you see in eBay images is having two connections, one for the car's stock wiring and other for the LED bulb. The LED driver is the only addition to your stock system which acts as an intermediary between the bulb and stock wiring and that too is plug-n-play. So, no issues.
If you are not keen on white light, a simple (and cheaper) halogen upgrade would also do. But along with the light intensity and throw, glare will also increase (same is the case with these LEDs). Another option is to mount additional lights which can be controlled by a seperate switch and can be adjusted towards the road to produce least possible amount of glare. Stock headlamps won't provide this level of adjustment.
Regards,
Alpha
These are simple plug-n-play kits only. The bulb will go in place of your stock bulb and your stock power supply will connect to the LED driver. The driver you see in eBay images is having two connections, one for the car's stock wiring and other for the LED bulb. The LED driver is the only addition to your stock system which acts as an intermediary between the bulb and stock wiring and that too is plug-n-play. So, no issues.
If you are not keen on white light, a simple (and cheaper) halogen upgrade would also do. But along with the light intensity and throw, glare will also increase (same is the case with these LEDs). Another option is to mount additional lights which can be controlled by a seperate switch and can be adjusted towards the road to produce least possible amount of glare. Stock headlamps won't provide this level of adjustment.
Regards,
Alpha
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Thanks bhvm and Alpha.
I am not willing to spend 5k or so on a set of bulbs. How about these ones.
HB3 - High Beam
Philips HB3 9005 White Vision Headlight Bulb (12V, 60W): Amazon.in: Car & Motorbike
Osram HB3 P9005 Night Breaker Unlimited Duo Box (12V, 60W): Amazon.in: Car & Motorbike
http://www.amazon.in/Philips-9005-X-treme-Vision-Headlight/dp/B00NAZJTFE
HB4 - Low beam
Philips HB4 9006 X-treme Vision Headlight Bulb (12V, 55W): Amazon.in: Car & Motorbike
Osram HB4 P9006 Night Breaker Unlimited Duo Box (12V, 55W): Amazon.in: Car & Motorbike
Philips HB4 9006 White Vision Headlight Bulb (12V, 51W): Amazon.in: Car & Motorbike
These lights are of same wattage as of the stock, but the descriptions says these are much brighter? Will these be better than the stock ones.
Also, are these Halogens or LEDs. How to find that out.
KK
I am not willing to spend 5k or so on a set of bulbs. How about these ones.
HB3 - High Beam
Philips HB3 9005 White Vision Headlight Bulb (12V, 60W): Amazon.in: Car & Motorbike
Osram HB3 P9005 Night Breaker Unlimited Duo Box (12V, 60W): Amazon.in: Car & Motorbike
http://www.amazon.in/Philips-9005-X-treme-Vision-Headlight/dp/B00NAZJTFE
HB4 - Low beam
Philips HB4 9006 X-treme Vision Headlight Bulb (12V, 55W): Amazon.in: Car & Motorbike
Osram HB4 P9006 Night Breaker Unlimited Duo Box (12V, 55W): Amazon.in: Car & Motorbike
Philips HB4 9006 White Vision Headlight Bulb (12V, 51W): Amazon.in: Car & Motorbike
These lights are of same wattage as of the stock, but the descriptions says these are much brighter? Will these be better than the stock ones.
Also, are these Halogens or LEDs. How to find that out.
KK
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All these are halogens. Actually, spending 5k on LED/HID bulbs is better that spending 1.5-2k on another pair of halogens. Output of LED and HID bulbs can not be matched by other bulbs of stock rating in any case. If your budget is limited, upgrade high beam to higher wattage bulbs of 100w or so. Improvement will be considerable over stock bulbs but not in line with LED or HID setup.
There will be very slight improvement. Only advantage I see is that you can simply swap the stock bulbs with these directly, which helps in preserving warranty in new cars. Maybe you can consider upgrading to higher wattage bulbs. You can get the wiring, relay, etc. installed by a professional. That way cost would also be around 2-2.5k max., which makes it immense value for the price.
Regards,
Alpha
There will be very slight improvement. Only advantage I see is that you can simply swap the stock bulbs with these directly, which helps in preserving warranty in new cars. Maybe you can consider upgrading to higher wattage bulbs. You can get the wiring, relay, etc. installed by a professional. That way cost would also be around 2-2.5k max., which makes it immense value for the price.
Regards,
Alpha
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hello kk and alpha,
please find point wise reply as below.
1. the bulbs I've suggested are led. halogens is outdated today.
2. I do not suggest high wattage halogens to anyone as pitfalls are many. the higher heat will yellow the glass and added wattage will frail the battery. even with relays.
3. going for halogen upgrades like osram Philips etc is a half baked approach at half the price of proper upgrade. you'll again find the itch to redo the upgrade in 6 months.
in short. these upgrade are not great.
4. the led bulb I've selected are not white. they are 4300k. which is warm white, closer to sunlight.
please find point wise reply as below.
1. the bulbs I've suggested are led. halogens is outdated today.
2. I do not suggest high wattage halogens to anyone as pitfalls are many. the higher heat will yellow the glass and added wattage will frail the battery. even with relays.
3. going for halogen upgrades like osram Philips etc is a half baked approach at half the price of proper upgrade. you'll again find the itch to redo the upgrade in 6 months.
in short. these upgrade are not great.
4. the led bulb I've selected are not white. they are 4300k. which is warm white, closer to sunlight.
Thread Starter
#147
kk, here is budget wise list of upgrades for you.
1-2k- high wattage halogens with relays
3-4k. stuff hid kit in your oem fogs. they serve as second Low beams.
5k. get a nice Led or hid kit for Low beams.
10k Low & high beam upgrade to led.
15-20k bi xenon projector retrofit.
I would like to differ from above opinion. in 15+ years of motoring experience, I've never come across any external or aux lamp with glare shields or cutoffs. these will generate glare no matter what. aiming them down does not help, as they vomit all the Wad of light closeby, giving your pupils a reason to construct and that totally destroys your long distance vision.
in my simplest definition, any external lamps shall be treated as high beam assists, to be used only where you would engage your highs.
guide here-
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/do-yourself/23610-diy-high-beam-assist-lights-driving-lamps-no-drill-metal-bumper-required.html
1-2k- high wattage halogens with relays
3-4k. stuff hid kit in your oem fogs. they serve as second Low beams.
5k. get a nice Led or hid kit for Low beams.
10k Low & high beam upgrade to led.
15-20k bi xenon projector retrofit.
I would like to differ from above opinion. in 15+ years of motoring experience, I've never come across any external or aux lamp with glare shields or cutoffs. these will generate glare no matter what. aiming them down does not help, as they vomit all the Wad of light closeby, giving your pupils a reason to construct and that totally destroys your long distance vision.
in my simplest definition, any external lamps shall be treated as high beam assists, to be used only where you would engage your highs.
guide here-
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/do-yourself/23610-diy-high-beam-assist-lights-driving-lamps-no-drill-metal-bumper-required.html
Hey bhvm,
Iron Rock said you and Kinshuk are the "go to" guys when it comes to HID lamps.
I need to change the headlamps on my Pajero Sport (2012). I believe it's H11 and H3B for low and high beams respectively. the guys at the Pajero workshop in Mumbai said it would cost me approximately Rs. 15,000 per set. But I can see various products, including Philips & Osram on Amazon and much, much lower prices. Help!
And - Do I need to fit a ballast etc, or just changing the bulbs will do the job?
Iron Rock said you and Kinshuk are the "go to" guys when it comes to HID lamps.
I need to change the headlamps on my Pajero Sport (2012). I believe it's H11 and H3B for low and high beams respectively. the guys at the Pajero workshop in Mumbai said it would cost me approximately Rs. 15,000 per set. But I can see various products, including Philips & Osram on Amazon and much, much lower prices. Help!
And - Do I need to fit a ballast etc, or just changing the bulbs will do the job?
Thread Starter
#149
Hello Nomad,
What do you mean by "Headlamps". Do you want entire lamp housings? are the lenses blurred/dull? if so, just swapping the bulbs will not help.
On the other hand, if your headlamps are good, you may as well go for a bulb upgrade.
Further details here-
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...-hid-kit-technical-review-install-w-pics.html
What do you mean by "Headlamps". Do you want entire lamp housings? are the lenses blurred/dull? if so, just swapping the bulbs will not help.
On the other hand, if your headlamps are good, you may as well go for a bulb upgrade.
Further details here-
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...-hid-kit-technical-review-install-w-pics.html
Thanks bhvm for the super quick response.
It's the bulbs that need to be replaced, the rest of the assembly is fine.
My problem is I cannot see far enough even with the high beam.
Driving on country roads in the night is a tense affair!
Actually I'd like to replace both the high and the low beam bulbs.
So, what's a good set to buy?
And, after reading through the link you posted, I assume I need ac ballasts too...?
It's the bulbs that need to be replaced, the rest of the assembly is fine.
My problem is I cannot see far enough even with the high beam.
Driving on country roads in the night is a tense affair!
Actually I'd like to replace both the high and the low beam bulbs.
So, what's a good set to buy?
And, after reading through the link you posted, I assume I need ac ballasts too...?