Repeated Case of Zero NCAP Crash Test Rating of Indian Cars
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I am not sure about the "taller" ladder-frame trucks mentioned here. Those with unusually high ground clearance would be susceptible to a roll over from a side or a nudging impact from even a smaller vehicle. In the circumstances, the lack of crumple zones will be a telling factor. In a frontal collision with smaller vehicles they may fare better if driven at moderate speeds.
Yes I agree with you, best example for susceptible to a rollover is Hyundai Creta. It's slightly higher stander would cause it to loose traction and increase side moment and roll over. However if your car has enough track w.r.t ground clearance you can regain traction during side impact because a wider track can withstand higher amount of forces (eg : Fortuner, S-cross).
Fiat Punto Scores ZERO STARS in EURO NCAP test
Fiat Punto scores first-ever zero-star NCAP safety rating.
The Punto – first introduced in 2005 – was re-examined as part of Euro NCAP’s regular reassessment of vehicles as the body seeks to find cars “that are past their sell-by-date where safety is concerned”. The Fiat was found to significantly trail its modern contemporaries.
Euro NCAP explained the Punto’s no-star score “came because of low scores for its crash performance, combined with the absence of key technologies such as Autonomous Emergency Braking”.
As well as no stars overall, the Punto was given zero per cent in the safety assist category. This too was the first time such a score had been awarded by Euro NCAP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N1Q0k6-ebg
Euro NCAP
Fiat Punto scores first-ever zero-star NCAP safety rating.
The Punto – first introduced in 2005 – was re-examined as part of Euro NCAP’s regular reassessment of vehicles as the body seeks to find cars “that are past their sell-by-date where safety is concerned”. The Fiat was found to significantly trail its modern contemporaries.
Euro NCAP explained the Punto’s no-star score “came because of low scores for its crash performance, combined with the absence of key technologies such as Autonomous Emergency Braking”.
As well as no stars overall, the Punto was given zero per cent in the safety assist category. This too was the first time such a score had been awarded by Euro NCAP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N1Q0k6-ebg
Euro NCAP
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Re: Fiat Punto Scores ZERO STARS in EURO NCAP test
Euro NCAP has become too strict past 2 years
cars scoring 5 stars suddenly became 3 stars
Seeing the recent Abarth Punto crash at insane speeds,Im not sure what to believe anymore
Euro NCAP has become too strict past 2 years
cars scoring 5 stars suddenly became 3 stars
Seeing the recent Abarth Punto crash at insane speeds,Im not sure what to believe anymore
Re: Fiat Punto Scores ZERO STARS in EURO NCAP test
Irony is that it looks much better than that of 3 star rated Duster 2018 ! May be EuroNCAP wanted to discourage the old cars relaunches .
Irony is that it looks much better than that of 3 star rated Duster 2018 ! May be EuroNCAP wanted to discourage the old cars relaunches .
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Re: Fiat Punto Scores ZERO STARS in EURO NCAP test
It it doesnt have side airbags. So it would have to be from a requirement that was valid 12 years ago. The explanation is clear-cars that are past their sell-by date as far as safety standards are concerned. I would have to question what exactly were Euro NCAP expecting from this test ? By their own requirement, the particular model doesnt have AEB or side airbags. Subjecting it to a side impact test, for example, is a waste of resources.
It it doesnt have side airbags. So it would have to be from a requirement that was valid 12 years ago. The explanation is clear-cars that are past their sell-by date as far as safety standards are concerned. I would have to question what exactly were Euro NCAP expecting from this test ? By their own requirement, the particular model doesnt have AEB or side airbags. Subjecting it to a side impact test, for example, is a waste of resources.
Re: Fiat Punto Scores ZERO STARS in EURO NCAP test
Comparison of Fiat grande Punto 5 star rating( older rating system ) with the new 2017 Fiat Punto crash test result !
*Seems like the structure is showing the same kind of protection and the damage on dummies too identical .
*EuroNCAP raised the standards and now give more important for active safety features. Also 2006 tested car was better equipped with side Airbags .
*Earlier rated car weighed 1076 KG , new one 1030 KG - Additional equipments ?
*I'm curios where this tested car was made ?
Is it Indian made (Pure guess) as we know FCA exports Indian made Compass to U.K .
I'm sure if Punto is rated Zero - we could rate other previous zero scored cars into negative scores :)
Comparison of Fiat grande Punto 5 star rating( older rating system ) with the new 2017 Fiat Punto crash test result !
*Seems like the structure is showing the same kind of protection and the damage on dummies too identical .
*EuroNCAP raised the standards and now give more important for active safety features. Also 2006 tested car was better equipped with side Airbags .
*Earlier rated car weighed 1076 KG , new one 1030 KG - Additional equipments ?
*I'm curios where this tested car was made ?
Is it Indian made (Pure guess) as we know FCA exports Indian made Compass to U.K .
I'm sure if Punto is rated Zero - we could rate other previous zero scored cars into negative scores :)
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Re: Fiat Punto Scores ZERO STARS in EURO NCAP test
Adult Occupant:
The passenger compartment of the Punto remained stable in the frontal offset test. Dummy readings indicated good protection of the
knees and femurs of both the driver and passenger but structures in the dashboard were thought to present a risk of injury to occupants
of different sizes and to those sat in different positions. Protection of the passenger's chest was rated as marginal, based on dummy
readings of compression. In the full-width rigid barrier test, protection of the chest of the rear passenger was weak, and that of the neck
was marginal. Protection of the driver was good or adequate for all critical body regions. In the side barrier test, chest protection was
rated as marginal, based on rib compressions. A side pole test was not performed as the Punto does not have a standard-fit head
protecting airbag. Tests on the front seats and head restraints demonstrated poor whiplash protection in the event of a rear-end collision.
A geometric assessment of the rear seats indicated marginal whiplash protection.
Child Occupant:
In the frontal offset test, measurements of tensile forces in the neck of the 10 year dummy indicated poor protection for that part of the
body. Protection of the neck and chest of the 6 year dummy was marginal in this test. In the side barrier impact, decelerations indicated
poor chest protection and weak head protection for the 10 year dummy. Protection of the 6 year dummy in that test was good for all
critical body areas. The front passenger airbag can be disabled to allow a rearward-facing child restraint to be used in that seating
position. However, the information provided to the driver regarding the status of the airbag is not sufficiently clear and the system was not
rewarded. The Punto does not have i-Size compatible seats.
Pedestrian Protection:
The protection provided by the bonnet to the head of a struck pedestrian was predominantly poor or weak, although good in places. The
bumper provided good protection to pedestrians' legs and protection of the pelvis was also good or adequate.
Safety Assist:
The Punto has a seatbelt reminder only for the driver's seat as standard. The system on the passenger seat did not qualify for
assessment as it is not standard equipment and, therefore, the car scored no points for the front seats. A seatbelt reminder is not
available for the rear seats.
Adult Occupant:
The passenger compartment of the Punto remained stable in the frontal offset test. Dummy readings indicated good protection of the
knees and femurs of both the driver and passenger but structures in the dashboard were thought to present a risk of injury to occupants
of different sizes and to those sat in different positions. Protection of the passenger's chest was rated as marginal, based on dummy
readings of compression. In the full-width rigid barrier test, protection of the chest of the rear passenger was weak, and that of the neck
was marginal. Protection of the driver was good or adequate for all critical body regions. In the side barrier test, chest protection was
rated as marginal, based on rib compressions. A side pole test was not performed as the Punto does not have a standard-fit head
protecting airbag. Tests on the front seats and head restraints demonstrated poor whiplash protection in the event of a rear-end collision.
A geometric assessment of the rear seats indicated marginal whiplash protection.
Child Occupant:
In the frontal offset test, measurements of tensile forces in the neck of the 10 year dummy indicated poor protection for that part of the
body. Protection of the neck and chest of the 6 year dummy was marginal in this test. In the side barrier impact, decelerations indicated
poor chest protection and weak head protection for the 10 year dummy. Protection of the 6 year dummy in that test was good for all
critical body areas. The front passenger airbag can be disabled to allow a rearward-facing child restraint to be used in that seating
position. However, the information provided to the driver regarding the status of the airbag is not sufficiently clear and the system was not
rewarded. The Punto does not have i-Size compatible seats.
Pedestrian Protection:
The protection provided by the bonnet to the head of a struck pedestrian was predominantly poor or weak, although good in places. The
bumper provided good protection to pedestrians' legs and protection of the pelvis was also good or adequate.
Safety Assist:
The Punto has a seatbelt reminder only for the driver's seat as standard. The system on the passenger seat did not qualify for
assessment as it is not standard equipment and, therefore, the car scored no points for the front seats. A seatbelt reminder is not
available for the rear seats.
Re: Fiat Punto Scores ZERO STARS in EURO NCAP test
But the car displayed and referred to is the 2005 model thats made in 2017
Isnt Argo the replacement for Punto internationally?
(Not referring to vm2011) PS- This further proves my arguement of chassis design being more important than simply sheet metal etc when it comes to safety
Unfortunately people assume some brands to be tougher than the other just because of their own perception of "door thud" and sheet metal
Nope. It is a refreshed 2017 built car![[:)]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Smile.gif "Smile [:)]")
Isnt Argo the replacement for Punto internationally?
(Not referring to vm2011) PS- This further proves my arguement of chassis design being more important than simply sheet metal etc when it comes to safety
Unfortunately people assume some brands to be tougher than the other just because of their own perception of "door thud" and sheet metal
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If Duster got 3* and Punto 0*, there is nothing one can say other than blame EuroNCAP for being too harsh.
The Puntos structure was rated stable and were able to counter further loading, so a minimum of 3* should have been its score.
Anyway FCA is not at all doing well nowadays. And not even luck seems to favor them.
The Puntos structure was rated stable and were able to counter further loading, so a minimum of 3* should have been its score.
Anyway FCA is not at all doing well nowadays. And not even luck seems to favor them.