Need a New Ride: A Diesel Workhorse (Booked Elite i20 Sportz)

[nishant5858]

Re: Need a New Ride: A Diesel Workhorse

No hard feelings for the I20. And I am neither promoting the Swift.)

In fact, i love & like Swift better then i20. The only reason why i bought i20 was i already had Swift & didn't want another one. I like Polo very much but i already have Rapid which has same engine/gearbox/interiors like Polo so ruled it out. Hence made i20 as default choice. Now that the Jazz is on sale, it will be considered when planning replacement for existing cars.

 

[Godfather]

I had Swift Diesel & currently have Elite i20 Diesel.

1. Swift Service cost for 5k service was around 3000, while for i20 it is around 3000. For 10k service, Swift used to cost around 5000. i20 i haven't checked yet because the car has done 6955 kms currently. Post 35-40k kms running of Swift, it requires replacement of some mechanical components which will cost around 12-15k depending on the parts.

Beg to disagree here nishant, firstly i don't think you need 5k service interval for Maruti vehicles. I am owning Ritz petrol and i do 10k service only and that too from MASS.

Last month i did the 60k service and the total bill (including labor) was Rs 8500/- For me, the normal 10k service cost will hover around 4-5k and this time the bill shot up because i had to replace the front struts, bushes, steering wheel plunger, ac cleaning, wiper blades etc in addition to the normal fluid changes.

Still maruti is expensive to maintain no doubt but not the cost which you have mentioned here. 12-15k will come based on your usage and so far i have had a good ride with Ritz no issues whatsoever. For Diesel cars expect a cost hike of 10-15% more than what i have quoted here for normal periodic service.

Sirji, after being driven around for 8-10 kms in a brand new top end Jazz. Neither I bothered to drive one, nor I got that premium feel which comes in an i20.

A side by side comparison says it all, IMO its the i20 which is just bang on to the target. Space and practicality isn't everything after all.

Totally agreeing to Vipul here. I had shortlisted Jazz last month, took a TD but was not impressed. Even i didn't get the 'premium' feel of HONDA and the cost was way above my budget.

 

[singh890]

Re: Need a New Ride: A Diesel Workhorse

I had Swift Diesel & currently have Elite i20 Diesel.
1. Swift Service cost for 5k service was around 3000, while for i20 it is around 3000. For 10k service, Swift used to cost around 5000. i20 i haven't checked yet because the car has done 6955 kms currently. Post 35-40k kms running of Swift, it requires replacement of some mechanical components which will cost around 12-15k depending on the parts.

Wow does swift really require some mechanical components replaced at 35-40K!. My XUV has recently got 70000 kms service and the bill was 8K., highest I have paid is at my 50K service which was Rs 12900 and that included rear brake pads replacement. 3000 for the first service which usually is free service and our XUV 1st service was Rs 2200/-..LOL. So coming back to the point it means that i20 is almost same as swift or maybe cheaper than swift when it comes to maintenance.

2. Swift used to give me around 16 kmpl in city & around 22-23 on highways at speeds of 100 kmph. i20 is currently giving me 13 in city & around 17-18 on highways.

My daily running is almost 45 kms one way and that includes almost 20 Kms on NH8 and 15 kms in moving traffic and 5 kms in bumper to bumper traffic and sometimes I don't even get that. I guess I can get 14-15 kmpl from both of these.

3. In city drives, Swift does better while on highways the i20 has power to overtake although sometime you do require to downshift to make overtaking easily. The additional 15bhp does help in i20s on highways. i20 is good at city speeds but i feel the Swift is slightly better.

The surge in swift is really nice making it easy to overtake in cities, I guess its one of the reason why swift is easy to drive in cities? Also which one is better planted on highways on high speeds?

Also you can consider the Polo & Jazz. Polo is powerful on highways & better then i20 in city speeds. But Jazz is better compared to Swift & i20 in terms of city drivability & on highways. In fact the diesel Jazz offers better performance compared to petrol Jazz. And it is more efficient as well, you'll get higher figures compared to Swift/i20/Polo. And Honda service costs are generally on lower side as they don't charge labour cost as high as Maruti & Hyundai.

I took the TD of polo and I liked the car very much when it comes to driving it, superb handling and very well planted on high speeds as well. But the reason I took it off from my list is due the space allocation. Second row has very less legroom and the boot is too big and the maintenance part of VW was another reason.

^^And my Innova got serviced at 78k kms for just 4100 bucks

That's the best part of owning a Toyota buddy because the smile package really brings a smile on the owners face when it comes to servicing the car.

@Singh Saab:
IMO, the i20 is the one that deserves every single penny it asks for. Swift is more about only the feeling of power surge and maybe some ride and handling difference but i20 is a way way better package overall. I have driven an i20 en rote from Meerut-Delhi-Gurgaon-Dharuhera-Tijara-Alwar-Jaipur-Mathura and back to Meerut within 32 hours and I can tell you that the way this car takes everything and still keeps you comfy is simply unmatched (for this money).

Ride quality is good and so is handling; going north if 120 is never an issue and it is confident even up to 150 although it loses a bit of surefootedness there but is still well under control and confident. Overall I will rate i20 highest in terms of a complete package under 10 lac; higher than even the Jazz, the Jazz simply doesn't give that special feeling that the i20 gives once you enter its cabin.

I agree with you on the interior part of i20 and Jazz. Somehow Jazz does not give the overall rich and awesome feeling that you get from i20. But I really like the speedo of the Jazz.

Do take a td of the jazz. If you want sedan space then this is the car but i won't agree about low maintenance, honda parts are costly especially previous jazz's.
I am thinking you will end up with elite i20 :p

And that was petrol so diesel would be more expensive, if I am not wrong? But I am really confused between swift/i20/jazz.

Paaji,
Just to ask you, are you comfortable in i20? I mean the headroom? IMO swift has a better headroom. And after driving the desi cheetah, just think how the next car you would be buying behave.
Brought the Fluidic in 2012, just because of looks looks and looks. Believe me, till now verna fluidic is the hottest sedan for me. But over all I personally found that the Fluidic is not that rough and tuff car. Its light and suspension was very soft. Also one big issue was the headroom in the verna. Getting in and out of the car for Me and Dad was a pain. The result was, in 2014 sold the Fluidic after some 45K kms, Brought the 2014 XUV. No headroom issue. Its solid and a Desi workhorse.

Paji I really didn't had any problem with the headroom in both these cars infact I adjusted the height of the seat and took it to the top most setting and still had decent headroom. how tall are you?
Also 95% times i'll be driving on tarmac roads and 5% driving will be on potholes or bad roads.

So, its your decision. Your hard earned money. Spend it wisely. I personally cant see myself driving an I20 elite after spoiling myself in the XUV

Well Paaji I still have the Cheetah for my long highway runs, road trips, family trips/functions etc) And I know this as well that I will replace this XUV with the new one or with Fortuner whenever I will replace it.
But currently looking at my requirements I need a small car but yes getting spoilt by the long feature list of XUV only 2 options stand as a winner and they are Elite i20 and Jazz.

 

[singh890]

Re: Need a New Ride: A Diesel Workhorse

So finally my search ended and I booked Elite i20 Sportz (Diesel) in white color yesterday and will get the delivery by coming Monday.

Yesterday my cousin took delivery of Creta SX (AT) diesel and I had accompanied him as well. Actually this is second Creta they have bought, first one was Manual Diesel SX model. So I got decent deal on my i20 because of him and I went ahead and booked my car as well.

Ex-Showrrom: 754258
Registration: 61741
HSRP Charges: 365
Zero Dep Insurance: 23230
Handling charges: 6990
OTR : 846584

Didn't go for extended warranty because the car comes with 2 years unlimited warranty and if yo buy third year then the kilometers become restricted to 60000. So i'll go for 3&4 year warranty around 22-23 month of my ownership and the total price will be 17k something.

 

[TSIVipul]

Re: Need a New Ride: A Diesel Workhorse

So finally my search ended and I booked Elite i20 Sportz (Diesel) in white color yesterday and will get the delivery by coming Monday.

Yesterday my cousin took delivery of Creta SX (AT) diesel and I had accompanied him as well. Actually this is second Creta they have bought, first one was Manual Diesel SX model. So I got decent deal on my i20 because of him and I went ahead and booked my car as well.

Ex-Showrrom: 754258
Registration: 61741
HSRP Charges: 365
Zero Dep Insurance: 23230
Handling charges: 6990
OTR : 846584

Didn't go for extended warranty because the car comes with 2 years unlimited warranty and if yo buy third year then the kilometers become restricted to 60000. So i'll go for 3&4 year warranty around 22-23 month of my ownership and the total price will be 17k something.

Mubarak Singh Saab.
Finally one more Alfa Romeo..err..i20 coming to TAI.
Why not Sportz(O) or Asta Singh Saab?

I can tell you, you will love driving this beauty on highways where it spreads its legs. I drove one for a really long route, neither I was tired nor was the car and that also after I really ripped it off at times en route.

Jazz may have practicality and what not, but to a lazy driver like me, a front center armrest is everything. I can use manual a.c., buttoned ICE, rubbery gearbox, even a slightly less feelsome steering and everything but without an armrest.. Na na na.. Not at all

 

[vijay]

Congtratulations sirji, finally the korean beauty takes the parking lot.
As sir vipul asked why not opted for sports optional or asta variant.Looking forward to see your ride soon by monday.

 

[Music_Swift]

Congrats for booking i20 Singh Saab.The variant which you have booked has alloys right?

 

[singh890]

Mubarak Singh Saab.
Finally one more Alfa Romeo..err..i20 coming to TAI.
Why not Sportz(O) or Asta Singh Saab?

I can tell you, you will love driving this beauty on highways where it spreads its legs. I drove one for a really long route, neither I was tired nor was the car and that also after I really ripped it off at times en route.

Jazz may have practicality and what not, but to a lazy driver like me, a front center armrest is everything. I can use manual a.c., buttoned ICE, rubbery gearbox, even a slightly less feelsome steering and everything but without an armrest.. Na na na.. Not at all

Congtratulations sirji, finally the korean beauty takes the parking lot.
As sir vipul asked why not opted for sports optional or asta variant.Looking forward to see your ride soon by monday.

Thanks guys. The reason why I went for Sportz rather than Sportz(O) or Asta was due to followig reasons:
- Sportz (O) was 38K more expensive then Sportz. And the difference between Sportz and Sportz(O) was only alloys, push start and chrome door handles. And push start really does not matter to me and I can get alloys and tires of my own choice at 25K from after market. But if Sportz (O) had another airbag I would have gone for it as that would have been more VFM to me.
- Asta was another 35-40K expensive than Sportz (O). And then after adding the accessories that I am planning it would have costed me almost 10Lac on road. So I just passed that as well.

Congrats for booking i20 Singh Saab.The variant which you have booked has alloys right?

Thanks buddy and NO this variant does not have alloys and that's even better for me since I am planing to get alloys from after market. Alloys start from Sportz (O).

 

[krishnavamshi24]

Re: Need a New Ride: A Diesel Workhorse

Please post an ownership review buddy.

Mubarak Singh Saab.
Finally one more Alfa Romeo..err..i20 coming to TAI.
Why not Sportz(O) or Asta Singh Saab?

I can tell you, you will love driving this beauty on highways where it spreads its legs. I drove one for a really long route, neither I was tired nor was the car and that also after I really ripped it off at times en route.

Jazz may have practicality and what not, but to a lazy driver like me, a front center armrest is everything. I can use manual a.c., buttoned ICE, rubbery gearbox, even a slightly less feelsome steering and everything but without an armrest.. Na na na.. Not at all

You do get an Arm Rest on Jazz as well

 

[allhyundaicars]

Re: Need a New Ride: A Diesel Workhorse

Please post an ownership review buddy.




You do get an Arm Rest on Jazz as well

No it doesn't have an armrest. It's an optional accessory and i think it's priced at 7500 rupees.

 

[allhyundaicars]

There is a newly launched celebration edition. For an extra 30k you get 3m satin black roof , 16" alloy wheels and sports pedal. I guess 30k is worth the price. And the car looks really good with an all black roof.

 

[singh890]

Please post an ownership review buddy.

I will post it buddy once I take the delivery.

There is a newly launched celebration edition. For an extra 30k you get 3m satin black roof , 16" alloy wheels and sports pedal. I guess 30k is worth the price. And the car looks really good with an all black roof.

I know bro but the thing is that they didn't had it in stock and they couldn't get me the celebration version this early.
Secondly I am getting alloys in 25K with tire upgrade and alloys of my choice, I can get the roof black for 2-3K and sportz pedal not that of a big deal for me. And now all the bank procedure is done and my PO is already ready, just have to go pick it up on Monday and give it to the dealer

 

[gears1313]

Vadhaiyan Singh Saab...
I liked your idea of getting the variant without alloys. After market alloys would look cool. I hope you are planning to change the tyres too (upsizing).
Nwayz, eagerly waiting for your i20 thread.

 

[singh890]

Vadhaiyan Singh Saab...
I liked your idea of getting the variant without alloys. After market alloys would look cool. I hope you are planning to change the tyres too (upsizing).
Nwayz, eagerly waiting for your i20 thread.

Thanks paji. I'll surely put an ownership thread soon once I take the delivery today. And yes I will be upgrading the tire as well. Stock tire specs are 185/70/14 and I'll be upgrading to 195/60/15, this is what I have planned as of now. Rest will let you know what I upgrade to. Most probably i'll get it upgrade tomorrow itself.

 

[singh890]

Guys can you help me with the selection of alloys. I have selected 4 out of many and I have numbered them from 1 to 4 in the pic below, Need help in deciding which one? All these alloys have 5 years warranty for any manufacturing defect or cracks.



And I have selected these tires.


Need your inputs quickly.