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MY ALBUS: TYRE UPSIZING = 195/60/15 for 6j x 15 - (OR) - 195/65/15 for 5.5j x 15 ?
Considering the Indian road conditions, 195/60 R15 is better ignored, better is to go for 195/65 R15 tires.
We have, all most discussed in this thread so far the best & simple things that we can do for a car like ANHC at our end as an owner. The only important topic - Tyre upsizing which is left out.
Most important part it is, City has got a gem of an engine and its dynamics need to be good enough to do justice to the engine.
The visit of TSIVipul (a new intelligent friend) triggered some fresh thoughts and as usual, CRACING’s (my best well-wisher) interaction made this topic more interesting. I am really thankful to both of them for having / have been adding value to this thread by their knowledge and extra ordinary efforts and inputs.
Intelligent!!!
My understanding from TSIVipul is :
Better to change the wheel alloys to minimum 6 j x 15 for 195/60/15 to get the best out of the tyres. OR one should only go for 195/65/15 to get best out of OE alloys ( 5.5j x 15) .
Sounds like an intelligent Dr.
The choice of tyres should be either Michelin Primacy 3ST for fantastic handling , grip on any surface, silent operation and good in terms of comfort OR Bridgestone Turanza ER300 for Good handling, fantastic grip on dry and wet surfaces, fantastic ride and may be noisier @ 130-140 kph, if you drive so !)
Agreed, the correct tyre upsize has to be complimented with the correct Rim Upsize for optimal performance.
Since , I have also changed from stock steel drums to OE alloys last year, and based on my usage ( Pl. acquit me TSIVipul , I am old now and driven enough when I was young like you!) preferred to leave the idea of upsizing the alloys to 6j x15. But I would rather love to see my ALBUS with wider and bigger shoes !
I really appreciate TSIVipul for his explanation based on his experience and certainly ANHC on tyres like 195/65/15 will look brawny, safe & comfortable.
I request TSIVipul to give his thoughts over the following ‘ time old standard deviation ’ so that his explanation would help every one reader here to be more confident in making the right decision. ( Yes, of course they are ( Tyrestore ) silent about ' j' - Rim Width ).
Thanks.
You have got it right sirji.
If going without upsizing alloys, it is better to go for higher profile for optimum performance.
Shorter sidewalls do take their toll in such a case but taller sidewalls do compensate a bit for the smaller size of rim(the 'J' thing). Explaining it in detail will take a painfully long post and equal time designing the rim and tyre profile in 3D for better explanation and I am sure that neither me nor the readers have enough time for that, still willing to do it if required, after all this is what we are here for - deliver to satisfaction; of self and others.
So go for the ones with 65 section with your eyes closed. These tire sellers have nothing to do with the driving experience of owners, for them selling the tire is more important than anything else while for the owner, going for a wrong tire means a compromise on comfort, performance and safety altogether.
I do but may be first owner did not. I got my own tyre inflator (Emporis, Pune) which works great, including its built-in gauge.
That isn't enough. You need to avoid patching too.
Better is to either drive the car in short duration or simply push or move the car it its parked spot for half a feet.
Concept is simple:
"Weight distribution and hence pressure distribution is not actually uniform on a tire on which a car is resting. Result is a different force distribution throughout the tire(force = pressure/area). Now if a car is resting at a place for long time, then the lower part of tire is the one which is actually carrying the weight of the tire. So better is to move the car by a couple of inches in short durations - the funda is to change the part of tire in contact with the surface, that's it."
Tyre condition isn't so bad either. Clocked 48k on worst roads of my city and still good to do more. I appreciate it.
With your running, why you even require to replace? Better replace them when you feel that now its important.
Having cracks on the outer surface is not a very big deal - brittleness do cause the cracks and slight cracks on the outer surface of a tire isn't actually a big deal. Inner surface is softer and that keeps it safe from cracking. So you need not to really panic looking at cracks until they actually feel wide.
Do you wanna kill me paying for fuel? Such a less driving leads to more fuel consumption. I get 10 avg mileage on ANHC and I'm quite happy about it. Civic and Accord would be ~ 5 KM/L
At your running, even a V12 car won't kill you with fuel expenses.
You can see my occupation in my profile and there will be no work to go outside. Only for market and personal work I use the car. Roads were never good in my city and full of traffic which loses interest in driving.
I am unemployed and still drive 2-3000 kms a month and at times I simply drive for no reason. In fact at times I drive in search for driveable roads, why don't you try the same?
I'm thinking to go out and do long trips but time has not allowed me yet. Family members are more interested in travelling in bus and trains.
I am at ARAI in Jan for SAE SIAT(Symposium on International Automotive Technology to present a research paper there on HEV technology). I guess 21 Jan should be the date(if time and life allows), and we can plan for a good road trip; at least this will give me a car to drive on the Mum-Goa!!
Now the choice is between 3ST and ER300. I like the thread design of ER300 but I'm a big fan of Michelin.
Same thing always kills me!!
@TSIVipul. One thing I wanna know is durability and toughness of these tyres. Noise is not a issue because I always drive under 40 because of city limits (Had to pay fine once when I crossed the limit) and I hardly go on highways.
Yokohama A is the one to go for if you want toughness. These seem to be semi-soft compounds and I guess won't go very well on the parked car. There is no doubt on their durability and I guess they should go very well if properly inflated. Since these tires can easily take 200 kph; they proves that these tires are tough too.
I will buy new tyres in the first quarter of next year.
Wait and watch, maybe something more useful is introduced in the market in the meantime.