Mineral or Synthetic Oil?


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I know this because I changed the oil at 1000kms.Shitty Mobil 1.They won't use any oil and you cannot provide oil of your choice.Even if they do, they don't endorse the oil change in the records.In case of warranty you get screwed.
Which oil did you change? Did you notice any difference in over all performance especially FE figures?

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Engine oil+filter, fuel filter and gear oil.Haven't driven all that much to notice any difference.
 
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Best 10w 30 engine oil...

Please tell your experience with engine oils , in my opinion gulf 10w 30 4t plus is best semi synthetic oil {200 rs }, second is Honda mineral oil but little less smooth.

Please tell me your opinion on best engine oil , tomorrow i am going to change it , so please Help. there are many engine oils which i never tried.
 
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Vivek I have confirmed with my Service engineer at MASS. All Maruti's current BS IV certified DDIS engines use fully synthetic oil only.

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Yeah, I saw that in your ownership thread. Hope you switch to synthetic post 10K km and FE will surely increase. Engine also will be smoother.
 
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Ha ha. Do you mind explaining this?
There are better Synthetics available.I find Mobil 1 to be bad.The engine sounds so rough.

But the M.A.S.S won't fill any oil that you provide.They won't endorse it in the Service Manual.It is a headache in case of a warranty claim.
 
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Yeah, I saw that in your ownership thread. Hope you switch to synthetic post 10K km and FE will surely increase. Engine also will be smoother.
Couldn't understand you mate. Mine is already using synthetic oil now. My ride is Dzire Tour LDi BS IV which uses synthetic oil. If they were using mineral oil then you would have recommended changing oild post 2.5k kms.

A query- Our i10 has mineral oil. Will changing it to synthetic oil increase FE?

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IMHO, maruti only uses mineral oil to keep the service cost in check.
Just to correct you Maruti ues Synthetic oil in all the Cars with Diesel engine be it Swift, Dzire or SX4. There is a debate and confusion going on in internet as to what oil to use Synthetic or Mineral as there is huge difference in the cost of the two. Also Ford in Figo and Fiesta is still using Mineral oil.

I am not sure as to what engine oil is being used in the latest Maruti Petrol cars.

Couldn't understand you mate. Mine is already using synthetic oil now. My ride is Dzire Tour LDi BS IV which uses synthetic oil. If they were using mineral oil then you would have recommended changing oild post 2.5k kms.

A query- Our i10 has mineral oil. Will changing it to synthetic oil increase FE?

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Sankar
For i10:
Changing to syntheic makes the engine more happy and more reviving incase you tend to abuse your car. Vey less visibility in increase in FE. I would recomend that you continue using Mineral oil in your i10. Only after your car has clocked 70 to 80 K think about shifting to synthetic oil but I would still not recomend shifting to Synthetic oil.
 
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For i10:
Changing to synthetic makes the engine more happy and more reviving incase you tend to abuse your car. Very less visibility in increase in FE. I would recommend that you continue using Mineral oil in your i10. Only after your car has clocked 70 to 80 K think about shifting to synthetic oil but I would still not recommend shifting to Synthetic oil.

I am not changing the oil to synthetic oil soon in my i10 if it doesn't offer any increase in FE. Our i10 has clocked only 22k kms in 4.5yrs with us and i don't think it will stay with us till it reaches 80k. Even if we keep it for 10yrs max my dad would do is 40-45k kms. Also synthetic oil costs 4.5k while mineral oil only around 700rs so it's a big difference cost wise too.

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Couldn't understand you mate. Mine is already using synthetic oil now. My ride is Dzire Tour LDi BS IV which uses synthetic oil. If they were using mineral oil then you would have recommended changing oild post 2.5k kms.

A query- Our i10 has mineral oil. Will changing it to synthetic oil increase FE?

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Sankar
Oops, my bad, I mistook. What is the Maruti recommended interval for oil change (synthetic oil).
 
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Oops, my bad, I mistook. What is the Maruti recommended interval for oil change (synthetic oil).
10k kms. First they thought of going for 15k interval like Fiat/VW but decided against this as many users have reported sluggish performance from there Fiat?VW cars after 12-13k kms. So Maruthi decided on 10k kms for oil change. For those petrol cars with mineral oil the interval is 2.5k kms.

Also another info as per testing for every 1000kms engine takes up 100ml of oil. So if calculated to 15k kms then comes around 1.5L of oil used which doesn't mean good news to engine na?[confused]

Got this info from Service manager at MASS who has been with MASS for 16 years[:)]

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Just to correct you Maruti ues Synthetic oil in all the Cars with Diesel engine be it Swift, Dzire or SX4. There is a debate and confusion going on in internet as to what oil to use Synthetic or Mineral as there is huge difference in the cost of the two. Also Ford in Figo and Fiesta is still using Mineral oil.

I am not sure as to what engine oil is being used in the latest Maruti Petrol cars.



For i10:
Changing to syntheic makes the engine more happy and more reviving incase you tend to abuse your car. Vey less visibility in increase in FE. I would recomend that you continue using Mineral oil in your i10. Only after your car has clocked 70 to 80 K think about shifting to synthetic oil but I would still not recomend shifting to Synthetic oil.
Sunbaj, Maruti uses synthetic in the Petrol Ertiga.I think all new cars with the Kseries engines are using synthetic oil.

When the engine has more wear you should not get synthetic.Infact that is the wrong time to get synthetic.

If your car is running on mineral oil from the factory, after the first couple of oil changes you can do an engine flush and then change to synthetic.

10k kms. First they thought of going for 15k interval like Fiat/VW but decided against this as many users have reported sluggish performance from there Fiat?VW cars after 12-13k kms. So Maruthi decided on 10k kms for oil change. For those petrol cars with mineral oil the interval is 2.5k kms.

Also another info as per testing for every 1000kms engine takes up 100ml of oil. So if calculated to 15k kms then comes around 1.5L of oil used which doesn't mean good news to engine na?[confused]

Got this info from Service manager at MASS who has been with MASS for 16 years[:)]

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Sankar

Sankar, the oil consumption usually stops once the engine is properly broken in.

The only benefit of an actual good quality synthetic is that is won't absorb moisture.

When Oil absorbs considerable amount of moisture you may sometimes find the oil level in you car has actually increased.Which is not good at all.

When you fill new oil into the engine always check the dip stick.Always maintain the level between the dots or indentations on the dip stick.Too much new oil is also bad.It will cause the seals to leak because of the extra pressure.
 
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Yes...with speed of 100 - 120 kmph mileage of 18kmpl is great.[clap] If we keep the speed to 70 - 90kmph with 5th gear we can breach the 20kmpl mark. My 3rd service is due shortly as odo has clocked 8700Kms so just 1300Kms to go for 3rd servicing. Not sure if the mileage will increase further after 3rd service which includes oil change.
I insisted (Mineral) Oil and Oil filter change in 5000kms itself. After oil change I am noticing 0.5 kmpl increase in mileage, but the engine runs much smoother. Considering another oil change in 10k, which is scheduled interval. May be I would go for synthetic or semi-synthetic - yet to decide.

I understand Maruti provides us an option to choose between mineral (10,000kms oil change interval) & synthetic oil (15,000kms oil change interval). If I opt for synthetic either I need to go premature oil change at 20,000 or take the car for extra service at 25,000kms.

Not sure if this is being discussed in another thread - any thoughts from forum on above?
 
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