Mahindra XUV500 (W201): First Impressions Pg.29 Onwards

[manojodungat]

I am surprised to read that a supporter of Gandhi ji ś philosophy applauds such tax stealing gimmicks. What surprises me more is that other manufacturers have not followed M&M till now and prefer to sell their high GC cars with same GC.

Certain unwarranted off topic and provocating comments/posts like above, which bear no value to the thread should be best avoided for a larger common good.

With low GC, for driver, xuv becomes just a passenger mover and occasional off roading on diversions on highways and rural roads would be a pain for him.

Coming back to the concern or desperation of yours with regard to XUV, with its stiff suspension its current GC should be good enough to negotiate pot-holed filled roads of ours and also during emergency but careful de-tour diversions.

Vehicles when fully loaded, with even 200mm GC can easily bottom out, if the suspension is softly sprung for the better ride comfort.

P.S: Please do a TD of a current XUV on rural roads at the earliest, to clear all the concerns of yours on the GC of XUV and then enlighten us whether should it be called an SUV any more.

 

[manojodungat]

What surprises me more is that other manufacturers have not followed M&M till now and prefer to sell their high GC cars with same GC.
With low GC, for driver, xuv becomes just a passenger mover and occasional off roading on diversions on highways and rural roads would be a pain for him.

In fact, the practical GC of XUV hasn't changed at all. By replacing the existing plastic stone guard with a metallic one they have in fact given a better protection for the engine part against stones. Earlier customers did complain about the plastic stone guard and its effectiveness.
You get a better part by paying 20-30k less

MODs: Please merge these posts of mine.

 

[Tornado]

Certain unwarranted off topic and provocating comments/posts like above, which bear no value to the thread should be best avoided for a larger common good. [evil

Truth remains truth whether said or not.
What 'larger common good ' you are talking about.? Subsidy for diesel comes from common man's(tax payer) pocket, for example, those who do not own cars or say those who own cars other than XUV and these tax payers would be paying for the subsidy enjoyed by the new XUV owners.

Basic purpose of taxing the extra GC, extra power was to shift the burden of the subsidy on the shoulders of the people who use the subsidised diesel for not so important reasons.

 

[manojodungat]

Truth remains truth whether said or not.
What 'larger common good ' you are talking about.? Subsidy for diesel comes from common man's(tax payer) pocket, for example, those who do not own cars or say those who own cars other than XUV and these tax payers would be paying for the subsidy enjoyed by the new XUV owners.

Basic purpose of taxing the extra GC, extra power was to shift the burden of the subsidy on the shoulders of the people who use the subsidised diesel for not so important reasons.

The pathetic road conditions and the [lack of] infrastructure/accessibility constraints are the most important reasons behind putting in our hard earned money on SUVs in our country. Barring some 2-lane/ 4-lane highways which too are under private operations on the build, operate and transfer (BOT) format under the direct tolling method, where do we have quality road development and boost in the public infrastructure as announced/promised by the same government?

All what they should be doing is to impose additional tax based on vehicle cost, be it an SUV, a hot Hatch or a luxury sedan. Get the additional from those who want more than 'just a commuter'.

Coming back to XUV, AFAIK, there hasn't been any change to the 'practical' GC as you are claiming it to be.

 

[Tornado]

@mu, You are right,
The politicians and general public(who do not pay much taxes or receive benefits more than the tax paid by them ) are responsible for bad roads and poor infrastructure but this doesn't give a right to the XUV manufacturer or any other manufacturer to encroach upon the tax payer's money by stupefying the tax authorities on the GC related rule. Why a common tax payer should pay for diesel subsidy availed by new XUV owners?
BTW, discussing facts about XUV's ground clearance can not be OT here.

 

[singh890]

Whats being OT here is that why are we discussing diesel prices and subsidy on diesel?

And XUV is not the only SUV running on diesel out there. There are SUV's which have a heavier engine and consume more diesel and produce less mileage than XUV. So if we are cursing diesel SUV's please leave XUV beside and curse those diesel guzzlers first.

So that way atleast M&M has a product which gives a sensible mileage for the vehicle of this size.

Secondly it's not the XUV owners alone who will receive the benefits. It's the entire country which is running diesel vehicles.

"The post above has no intention to point any particular member, it's just my general thought after reading few posts"

 

[Superbad]

Truth remains truth whether said or not.
What 'larger common good ' you are talking about.? Subsidy for diesel comes from common man's(tax payer) pocket, for example, those who do not own cars or say those who own cars other than XUV and these tax payers would be paying for the subsidy enjoyed by the new XUV owners.

Basic purpose of taxing the extra GC, extra power was to shift the burden of the subsidy on the shoulders of the people who use the subsidised diesel for not so important reasons.

The purpose to evade the tax was as stupid as the reason applied to tax an SUV in the first case.

An AUDI/merc which runs on diesel gives around 8kmpl could evade the tax for using the "subsidized " diesel but an SUV with possible max average of 24kmpl is blamed for using that same subsidized fuel.
those sedans can carry a max of 5 people whereas a vehicle like an XUV can carry 7 people around.

the vehicle costs ownership due to taxes is amongst the highest in the world.

people here when buying a car have to pay tax for the car, the road,registration whenever we move out of a city for the tolls and yet they are being projected as being using a subsidized fuel whereas the fact is people are using a relatively less taxed fuel.

in US petrol is still under 40 or 50 bucks to litre.
should be the same for diesel.

the fact that the company is willing to pass on the benefits to the consumer is worth noting.

they could have easily mentioned they have replaced the plastic for metal and yet still have milked the consumers but evaded the taxes.

 

[TrafficHacker]

By replacing the existing plastic stone guard with a metallic one they have in fact given a better protection for the engine part against stones. Earlier customers did complain about the plastic stone guard and its effectiveness.

@manojodungat - The stone guard that comes with the latest version of XUVs are also made of plastic and not metal, even I had read the same in one of the posts here, but I personally clarified it with the M&M XUV Sales Advisor.

The ground clearance has not been reduced in the XUV, the stone guard has been lowered a few centimeters and it is not making any difference in GC.
Even I had the same concern when I was considering XUV, took many TDs through all possible rough terrains and never could scrape her belly.
So anyone can confidently go ahead with XUV, but would suggest to do multiple TDs to clear out all the doubts in your mind before you take the big leap.

 

[Surfer]

Mahindra XUV500 W4 to cost Rs 10.99 lakh

SCOOP! Mahindra XUV500 W4 to cost Rs 10.99 lakh | Car News | SUV/Crossovers | Autocar India

 

[chetan]

This is brilliant news

Apart from Renault Duster,Nissan Terrano, Tata Safari and Mahindra Scorpio, even Innova could be in trouble.

But duster will be mostly affected



Diesel 85ps
RxE -8,73,000
RxL -9,73,000
RxL option -10,96,000


Diesel 110ps
RxL -11,05,000
RxZ -11,65,000
RxZ plus -12,13,000
RxZ option -12,18,000

 

[gears1313]

Just to share the info; W6 comes with 235/65/17 steel rims(discussed in previous pages). Checked out one W6 parked today.

 

[raj_5004]

Just to share the info; W6 comes with 235/65/17 steel rims(discussed in previous pages). Checked out one W6 parked today.

Extremely sorry for my mistake guys. The W6 does come with 17" wheels and not 16", as I earlier mentioned.

 

[manojodungat]

A review of the 2013 XUV5OO by ACI is up on their website. Didn't find anything specific to various changes made to XUV of late, though.

The Mahindra XUV500 is now a better package thanks to a host of improvements carried out. It'll also have a new W4 base trim soon.

Verdict:

Benchmark the XUV500 against other Mahindra offerings and you will realise just how big a leap Mahindra & Mahindra has taken. The design and styling are central to this SUV’s appeal, and though it may not suit all tastes, it’s undoubtedly distinctive and is sure to turn heads. With the XUV500, Mahindra has gone all out to pamper the customer like never before. The XUV500 has a fantastically spacious middle row and more equipment than you know what to do with. Performance is quite decent too and that just adds to the feeling of power SUV owners crave for. The XUV500 is not perfect though and nor is it quite world-class. M&M still hasn’t fully sorted out the dynamics of its first front-wheel-drive car and interior quality is quite patchy too. However, these concerns don’t seem to bother customers who have lapped up the Mahindra XUV500 like no other SUV before it. The XUV500 is incredible value for money, which makes it a package that’s hard to resist.

Link:Autocarindia

 

[chetan]

Diwali 2013 is going to be over & still no sign of W4 launch anywhere

 

[mohit_del]

Diwali 2013 is going to be over & still no sign of W4 launch anywhere

I checked with a dealer on the phone and he said it will be around mid November.