Hyundai Verna Fluidic Black SX VTVT - Experience!

[nickandre]

that 11-12 he gets is in city or highways? Let 16-17 claim be as it is bazooka state he got 10 on his highway drive which seems bother some. I think 12-13 should do it. Plus things have changed these days due to new euro norms and tuning done more for fe and not to mention the light weight and low quality parts just to attract customers with fe ratings.
my building neighbor got the new honda city company claimed some 16 or so for that 1.5l engine he gets around 14km/l which ever fuel he puts in. on the highways and 11 city. on the other hand the ivtec is addictive I'm sure many witht he city won't resist flooring it

you won't believe the stuff hyundai told me when i was in the same position as bazooka and allhyundaicars
"sir drive at 60km/h don't use the ac avoid traffic you will get fe"
"sir there is nothing wrong with the car our tests show your car gets 18km/l+"
" sir if your so bothered with fe why choose petrol?"
"sir if the costs of petrol and mileage bothers you convert to cng"
"sir take this pamphlet it shows how to drive for fuel economy"

 

[bobazooka]

Karl I dnt go by the FE in the display. I go by real time only. Also can't compare a Honda City to this car Infact ur cousin should be worried city give around 13-14 in city have seen it for myself as my fend owns one .

 

[bobazooka]

bobazooka and i are good with 10. he and i earlier said the same. but 8 is not acceptable. that's what we are trying to say.

Thnks allhyundaicars and nicks, thts the point we are not expecting sky high FE but 10 kmpl isn't a crime to expect!

 

[nickandre]

theres are two petrol verna owners on the other forum i am on, they said they get 6-7 in city for this guy hyundai said its a 1.6l engine not a 1.1l where you can expect fe above 11. they just connected the obd diagnostics tool and say everything is fine it is as it is. He then asked me if its a v6 engine in there?

 

[bobazooka]

Nick I wudnt be surprised if 6-7 is achievable in this car. I had almost cancelled this deal you knw it nick but then went for it in good spirit, but it's a shame this car has turned out the way it has been.

With ever rising fuel prices if the FE isn't decent its def a worry!

 

[allhyundaicars]

well i believe , 6-8 we get on a honda civic with its 1.8 liter engine. i saw a civic owner , and i wanted to ask the mileage he was getting but i didn't.

 

[vaibhav]

WHy cant maruti increase dezire production like verna to reduce waiting

 

[nickandre]

honda civic puts out 11-12 i suppose on highway drives, the crv around 5-6 in city i don't know of highway, the accord v6 puts 4-5 in city 7-9 highway as it has cylinder management.

When i was buying it there was absolutely no reviews on the petrol ones. When i booked it i came across one petrol guy he said he gets 13 he never told city or highway. When the car was booked and i saw the petrol engine from the display car i felt so annoyed i was wondering where is the 10 lakh engine look? why is it tilted why does the surroundings look naked. Dad got furious on me cause i had pressurized him to go in for this he was actually thinking of civic.
I remember you saw my issues and wanted to change your mind. Now we can't do much. Day by day a petrol owner is talking of his fe being low. Im pretty sure its cause hyundai is using a cheap oil to keep costs down.

 

[karlover]

MY csn is getting 11 in city driving..but there's a friend of mine, hes getting 11 in city with verna only and is quite satisfied..don't know what the actual problem is..are these guys manufacturing different type of engines every time or there's something to do with driving or the climatic conditions..because there's lots of variation with mileage with the same engine..!!

 

[bobazooka]

honda civic puts out 11-12 i suppose on highway drives, the crv around 5-6 in city i don't know of highway, the accord v6 puts 4-5 in city 7-9 highway as it has cylinder management.

When i was buying it there was absolutely no reviews on the petrol ones. When i booked it i came across one petrol guy he said he gets 13 he never told city or highway. When the car was booked and i saw the petrol engine from the display car i felt so annoyed i was wondering where is the 10 lakh engine look? why is it tilted why does the surroundings look naked. Dad got furious on me cause i had pressurized him to go in for this he was actually thinking of civic.
I remember you saw my issues and wanted to change your mind. Now we can't do much. Day by day a petrol owner is talking of his fe being low. Im pretty sure its cause hyundai is using a cheap oil to keep costs down.

I agree there nick, civic would have been a much complete car. Hyundai have got their tuning wrng they have a high octane engine but the oil is substandard. The parts sound of the roof but performance is not impressive.

 

[nickandre]

higher compression ratio engines seem to have good power and be more efficient, but if the high octane fuel is not around then it decrease performance as well as performance to overcome this they general tune the maps or deign the engine to bring down temperatures in the combustion chamber to prevent the air fuel mixture from igniting early.
I don't know the engine design on our verna since the vtvt is only made for india cvvt is made for some other countries while most have gdi for which you can easily get design details.
honda fills in 5w30 for their civics and accords and has that as option for the city. Though their service costs is high. Maruti fills 5w30 for the ritz and sx4. ford fills 10w30 or 5w30 for the petrol cars. Audi bmw volkswagen merc skoda also use 5w30 while 5w40 is used for diesels. Tata and fiat uses 5w40 for both petrol and diesel. And only hyundai is stuck using "15w40 for their petrol as well as diesel" That to api-sl for the petrol when the current one is api-sn which is made for fuel efficiencies and to protect the emission control system.
In the name of fuel economy hyundai has put lots of cheap quality thin plastic parts, if they'd replace it with good quality i wonder the fe then. They go by what they say customer has to adhere to, like when i enquired of the oils and they said only what service centre gives you is allowed nothing from the market not even another 15w40 and neither synth.
Only thing is you guys don't have the oil as what was my state and your guys cars are used in the city which makes the oil go thicker fast while mine no.

Karlover do a research on hyundai cars and their fe find out the claimed fe and find out the real life. Do the same for other car brands.
Based on my research there is a very huge variance between the style used to drive some cars preferred the sprinted way while others the sane way. My car definitely wants to be driven in a sort of spirited way if i change gears above 2500 i get good fe if i change gears as how many say to the rpms stick at 1500 and below 1500 its just boring and you need to down shift agree on my take bazooka?

by the way a hyundai service centre told a member gears1313 that crdi city fe 10 is max.

do give a check on this thread as well karlover http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/technical-zone/5535-life-all-new-hyundai-verna-9.html

 

[karlover]

@nick: I read a review on *****, some one was saying hes getting 16kmpl on highway and 14kpml in city from verna VTVT 1.6..and then on TAI one member was saying hes getting 12 odd kmpl from CRDI 1.6..i mean thats very uncertain..its like, it is on luck of an individual that with what kinda engine one is getting delivered with..
My dad was forcing me to go for city AT, but only way i convinced him was fe of verna crdi..as the OTR cost of both the cars (city AT and verna CRDI) were almost same, now i am just keeping my fingers crossed as i dont want to get blamed for a wrong decision..!

 

[bobazooka]

Karl the issue is very specific to petrol verna's in general altough nick has stated that even the diesel ones arent far away from warranty issues.

 

[karlover]

higher compression ratio engines seem to have good power and be more efficient, but if the high octane fuel is not around then it decrease performance as well as performance to overcome this they general tune the maps or deign the engine to bring down temperatures in the combustion chamber to prevent the air fuel mixture from igniting early.
I don't know the engine design on our verna since the vtvt is only made for india cvvt is made for some other countries while most have gdi for which you can easily get design details.
honda fills in 5w30 for their civics and accords and has that as option for the city. Though their service costs is high. Maruti fills 5w30 for the ritz and sx4. ford fills 10w30 or 5w30 for the petrol cars. Audi bmw volkswagen merc skoda also use 5w30 while 5w40 is used for diesels. Tata and fiat uses 5w40 for both petrol and diesel. And only hyundai is stuck using "15w40 for their petrol as well as diesel" That to api-sl for the petrol when the current one is api-sn which is made for fuel efficiencies and to protect the emission control system.
In the name of fuel economy hyundai has put lots of cheap quality thin plastic parts, if they'd replace it with good quality i wonder the fe then. They go by what they say customer has to adhere to, like when i enquired of the oils and they said only what service centre gives you is allowed nothing from the market not even another 15w40 and neither synth.
Only thing is you guys don't have the oil as what was my state and your guys cars are used in the city which makes the oil go thicker fast while mine no.

Karlover do a research on hyundai cars and their fe find out the claimed fe and find out the real life. Do the same for other car brands.
Based on my research there is a very huge variance between the style used to drive some cars preferred the sprinted way while others the sane way. My car definitely wants to be driven in a sort of spirited way if i change gears above 2500 i get good fe if i change gears as how many say to the rpms stick at 1500 and below 1500 its just boring and you need to down shift agree on my take bazooka?

by the way a hyundai service centre told a member gears1313 that crdi city fe 10 is max.

do give a check on this thread as well karlover http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/technical-zone/5535-life-all-new-hyundai-verna-9.html

Nick, is der any option for we guys to get that 5w40 for our vernas as used by skoda or every other brand..

 

[nickandre]

karl i went on a trip to a place which is 400km total when my car was at 1200km it gave me an fe of 10 i then went for a trip at 3000 km still 10. At 5000km i changed my oil all here know the state of the oil. Then i filled in speed 97 i went for a 400km trip many time during the trip id accelerate to 100 let go of the throttle let it cruse without throttle till the speed comes to 80 and then again. While going downhill i slotted into 4th and kept my foot of the throttle and during steep turns i would slot into second during this entire trip my mid showed 21 km/l but what i really got was 16km/l, now suppose i did not follow these methods how much do you say? 14-15 with this high octane fuel and 13-14 with other fuels. We shouldn't rely on the mid do it real life.
can all afford a high octane fuel to run as a daily fuel? beats me it costs 10 bucks more and i need to drive 40 km to fill up sometimes it won't be in stock.
i dont fancy speaking bad of stuff but this is a forum people come here for advices for every issue i face i post a pic/video to validate the issue just so that i won't be tagged as a hyundai basher, even when I'm selling the car id be honest and tell the guy the issues and show him the service records.

yes you can use 5w40 you get mobil1 delvac and a few other oils which i don't know of at the moment diesel engines require oils of better detergent and stability then petrol and the only diesel oil i know of being used by volvo buses and merc buses is mobil1 delvac.

these are some oils i found highly recommended 5w40 for diesel 5w30 for petrol