Got Tata Sierra - Turbo!


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I would have bought your car if it was available for 1.2L cheaper. The market value says that. Meanwhile, where did you drilled the hole to fit the thermostat for electric fan in the engine bay. In the engine head. Also how many times has the engine been opened and engine head is phased?
 
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I am happy that the Sierra is still with you. So which fan control are you planning to fix ?

Mileage is great (better than a small petrol car)
yeah still with me .

fan control for ac blower , unicla !! that is the thing available.


I would have bought your car if it was available for 1.2L cheaper. The market value says that. Meanwhile, where did you drilled the hole to fit the thermostat for electric fan in the engine bay. In the engine head. Also how many times has the engine been opened and engine head is phased?
read from first post. i have mentioned at the price i have bought and the works i have done.
even if you are ready to buy at 1.3L in market turbo's are hard to find. i did find just one turbo in last week for 1.25L . no idea of the condition of vehicle , but it had bald tyres and weak battery and no insurance.!


thermostat in engine head[frustration] - that is by drilling [evil]

i have placed thermostat in the coolant way. there is a provision for same since tata mobile had electric fan as oe and all tata family share same part.

engine has never been opened by me nor there is no sign of previous owner opening.

the previous owner did gave the car is excellent condition. must be a car lover too - he owns a jeep too.

i did spoiled the original finish with the ac and electrical works. [evil]
 
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ilango[speed thirst];167266 said:
thermostat in engine head[frustration] - that is by drilling [evil]
Have I said something wrong? In Indigo (old) the thermostat fits in the lower part of head itself, that's why I asked if you have done the same, unlikely you have opted for a 'Indica' like system in which the thermostat fits on the topmost left corner of the radiator.

I did find a Turbo a few years ago for 40,000 Rs although it was just lying and alot of work maybe 1 Lacs would might have tobe spent on it for renovation.
 
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This is not oe fitment. so not in head.

this is at the junction from the hose that comes just out of the engine.

turbo for 40k in scrap condition? are you sure? if yes and if papers are correct its a sweet deal according to me.

whole of renovation both body and engine will be less than 2l and i suggest you can invest 1.6 to 2L on this vehicle.

its a bliss to drive. not for regular car driver s hehe!!
 
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ilango[speed thirst];167589 said:
This is not oe fitment. so not in head.

this is at the junction from the hose that comes just out of the engine.

turbo for 40k in scrap condition? are you sure? if yes and if papers are correct its a sweet deal according to me.

whole of renovation both body and engine will be less than 2l and i suggest you can invest 1.6 to 2L on this vehicle.

its a bliss to drive. not for regular car driver s hehe!!
Just had some questions:

1) Could we replace the rear seat of Sierra with Safari or any other (more comfortable) one? Although I have owned a 1992 Sierra and it ran for about 3L kms still its rear bench was sofa like but it was 10 years ago then.

2) What was the Ex-showroom of Sierra at that time?:P I am asking this as if I buy a vehicle from other state I will have to repay the road tax here in MP.

3) A list of mods. (or improvements) you have done on your Sierra or works carried out til now (including cutting\welding).

4) What's the ODO reading as of now?

5) Are breakdowns so frequent in this vehicle (I understand the risk of owing a older tech. vehicle) but then being a Sierra fan I would not like tobe stranded in the middle of nowhere. I say this because in our 1991 Sierra several times the timing belt snapped (maybe 2-3 times) on tours. Has this problem corrected.

6) Are the parts swappable with TCIC Safari (oil filters, suspension, other engine parts)? How about a gearbox swap?

I wish I have not asked for too much.

Thanks.:)
 
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Well i'll answer one by one as good as possible.

1. No wheel arches protrude inside the cabin and there is no height at the rear. , safari rear seats could not be placed. but the wheel arches inside could be cut and brought down lower and the regular seat could be removed and new one fabricated - kind of one hell job , do it only if you want that badly.

2.i hope turbos's were sold some where near 5.8L and some on premium as the demand grew more for sierras. may be 50 to 80k less for std version? - not sure its all by word of mouth.

3.You are asking me to summarize this thread. Well mod in the sense , i have placed a electric fan for radiator by removing the mechanical fan making MY sierra quiet and for ac , the whole system is replaced by superking blower set up. And mine has a 16 inch wheel and tyres.
replaced the 65 amps alternator with 90 amps alternator.

4. No idea why you asked my odo reading. its 156550kms last Tuesday when it went for wheel aligning. i believed it may be tampered by previous owners
but given the engine condition now - i believe it must be true. the engine is still young and pull perfectly.

5.If you maintain your ride , there will not be single break down.
yeah there were timing belt issues with sierra. i replaced a year back. i was advised to replace at 40k kms by a old gentle man who did one in past. but i remember the manual had 36000 kms. it was a scanned copy of manual available in net. let me check and confirm . And i hope turbo's beld dont snap as the early std belts.

6.Oil filters , engine and gear box are same as tcic safari. the later gen gear box in safari as well as the dicor are exact match for this engine.
Except the pulley's ,fan shrouds and housing , ac - compressor[nt sure] and alternator
almost everything is same till the propeller shaft!
alternator was 65 amps in sierra , 120 amps in safari.

Suspensions are totally different.

sierra front suspension set up is exactly same as tata sumo.
rear is sierra specific , but the parts are still available.
Check this same thread , i have replaced all rear bushes.

safari was heavy weight for this engine - this is where sierra scores over and safari has a super real comfort .
 
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Thanks for the clarification. :) I asked for the odo reading as your car does'nt look to give much problems and seems well maintained. 40,000 Kms seems too low for timing belt change, now I understand the reason behind timing belt snapping thing as we only knew till then to replace it at 80-90K.

The blower of my Sierra then was good enough it chilled in no time after I installed a cut-out (Relay) to increase the current supply. Although it was a bit noisy.
 
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Yeah i did come across a perfect single owner sierra. the ac was good , blower speed was low and designed to match that cooling coil to make the car chiller.

Lot of sierra are in hands of mechanics who esp into lowest possible rate of work and they are mostly used by taxi people[reflecting the shoddy work at lowest wages] - their nature of work , try to make the worn out part work further by making arrangements that in turn blows of some other thing. Since sierra were sold in market for cheapest possible rate , the people who bought them reflected.

My car has been stalled twice in middle of no where - both times by same person - the idiot is my electrician - reason no diesel .

In a trip for 600+ kms , he got the car from me and started driving , that is it. no filling.

Imagine if he owns that car?
 
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Update

the brakes were bit weird for last 6+ months. the front dips and front wheels lock up and screeches.

This occur even in some what slow speed of 20kmph.

Opened up the brake ,
rear one cylinder was jammed , another was leaking.

replaced both at 550 each , tata oe box packing.
front caliper kit replaced. 330/-

now the brakes are super fine , and with some more kms i think it will be perfect.

now the brake don't skid , bites good and the car actually stops good.

total expense as for today 1570/- just parts.
 
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the braking has improved well and not the confidence has improved drastic.

Literally i was driving on front brake alone . rear getting into action after a good delay - now solved and happy.

installed a car fan so that the rear passengers get some air , till the ac covers up.

Over all , except the body everything is fine
now pending work in engine side , is need a new steering pump for very free steering !
 
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Why not get an rear blower unit with a cooling coil, it would be nice. I guess your compressor has enough power to send the compressed gas to the rear cooling coils.

OT : Is there any blower which I can fit in my 800 to improve the air flow.
 
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Yeah rear blower thing could be done , but not now , need lot of time

For 800 , if you keep increasing very powerfull blower it may not pick up that chillness from the cooling coil ,
 
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