Re: Ford EcoSport Facelift 2017 Exclusive Spyshots
Was this car spotted by you buddy?
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Akash
Was this car spotted by you buddy?
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Akash
Ford EcoSport Facelift 2018 Launched in India (Coverage Pg: 34)
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Re: Ford EcoSport Facelift 2017 Exclusive Spyshots
I agree with you all regarding waiting for the EcoSport facelift. So have kept my decision on hold. Thanks for helping.
Update is i have quoted 10.2 Lakhs OTR and asked if he can give me that offer as he has already come down to 10.5 Lakhs OTR. So if he agrees for 10.2 Lakhs OTR would take the current generation as its almost 2.0 Lakhs whooping discount.
Please can you explain the features you mentioned in your comment are worth 2 Lakhs. If yes then i would wait for it. And what is the EcoSport S version? Please elaborate.
@damager21 is right that i am just in a look for Petrol engine. So does the S version of EcoSport come in petrol or its just for the diesel?
I agree with you all regarding waiting for the EcoSport facelift. So have kept my decision on hold. Thanks for helping.
Update is i have quoted 10.2 Lakhs OTR and asked if he can give me that offer as he has already come down to 10.5 Lakhs OTR. So if he agrees for 10.2 Lakhs OTR would take the current generation as its almost 2.0 Lakhs whooping discount.
Please can you explain the features you mentioned in your comment are worth 2 Lakhs. If yes then i would wait for it. And what is the EcoSport S version? Please elaborate.
@damager21 is right that i am just in a look for Petrol engine. So does the S version of EcoSport come in petrol or its just for the diesel?
Re: Ford EcoSport Facelift 2017 Exclusive Spyshots
S variant is only for Diesel. If you will, EcoSport with Ecoboost is more of a Petrol S variant. As your know, Ecoboost engine will be more peppier and powerful than even the new 1.5L Dragon engine.
S variant is only for Diesel. If you will, EcoSport with Ecoboost is more of a Petrol S variant. As your know, Ecoboost engine will be more peppier and powerful than even the new 1.5L Dragon engine.
Re: Ford EcoSport Facelift 2017 Exclusive Spyshots
The biggest reason for Ecosport face lift as per me is the new rear track and new rear suspension, as per Brazilian media reports the new Ecosport has a wider rear track with 10% stiffer semi independent twist beam, this has one big advantage ie the back seat ride quality, the back seat of current Ecosport has a stiff ride almost like a BOF SUV, because the wheelbase is small and a smaller rear track means for stability there is no other option other than providing a stiff rear damper and spring, with the new face lift they have changed this and this will lead to a noticeably better rear seat ride quality over current model, this is something that the current model can never match
Then the seats, the current Ecosports seats are already very good but the new one gets the same seats the Ford Focus has in Europe, much wider wings and longer under thigh rests, so in theory should give better comfort over current model
Then the new 1.5l Dragon Motor, I feel Fords new Ecosport facelift with 1.5l dragon motor will be a very good alternative to ecoboost, not that ecoboost is bad by any means but the new engine too generate 123 horses and 150 NM just 20 NM shy of the ecoboost and new engine having long stroke and large bore size should have better low end torque than ecoboost,
New Dragon petrol motor is made in India as well, so localization is definitely above 80% and this means it will be cheap, meaning current 1.5 petrol Ecosport sells for around 10.23-10.89 lakhs on road depending on state, so even if there is a price increase for facelift it wont be much in Dragon motor as its even more localized than the TiVCT which now is sourced from Thailand. so in effect the price will remain around 10.5-11.3 lakhs on road itself depending on state as per my calculations
https://www.carwale.com/new/quotati...=y6G+b16Q29cAlEB8Kai3ZbGJifeJTI6iBUG1a1ixWfg=
Then its the features like Projector headlamps,SYNC 3,arm rest,all of which adds better value than current Ecosport
I know at 10.2-10.5 lakhs the ecoboost is a terrific deal but I feel the Ecosport face lift is not just slightly better but far better than current Ecosport at least according to Brazilian reviews, this is what makes me feel that waiting will be WORTH.
I feel Ford will be giving 2 S variants, as of now also the Figo has an S variant, one in petrol and other in diesel, I think Ford will keep S variant for ecoboost variant of petrol Ecosport and for diesel there will be the TDCi, so that will make 3 engine choices
1. Ecoboost as Sporty petrol (might not get the Trend and Titanium variants)
2. Dragon as regular entry level petrol and with 6 speed torque converter Automatic
3. Diesel as Manual and Sporty S
So this caters the widest variety of compact SUV as well , ie Sporty petrol,regular petrol, petrol Automatic, diesel, sporty diesel
I agree with you all regarding waiting for the EcoSport facelift. So have kept my decision on hold. Thanks for helping.
Update is i have quoted 10.2 Lakhs OTR and asked if he can give me that offer as he has already come down to 10.5 Lakhs OTR. So if he agrees for 10.2 Lakhs OTR would take the current generation as its almost 2.0 Lakhs whooping discount.
Please can you explain the features you mentioned in your comment are worth 2 Lakhs. If yes then i would wait for it. And what is the EcoSport S version? Please elaborate.
@damager21 is right that i am just in a look for Petrol engine. So does the S version of EcoSport come in petrol or its just for the diesel?
Update is i have quoted 10.2 Lakhs OTR and asked if he can give me that offer as he has already come down to 10.5 Lakhs OTR. So if he agrees for 10.2 Lakhs OTR would take the current generation as its almost 2.0 Lakhs whooping discount.
Please can you explain the features you mentioned in your comment are worth 2 Lakhs. If yes then i would wait for it. And what is the EcoSport S version? Please elaborate.
@damager21 is right that i am just in a look for Petrol engine. So does the S version of EcoSport come in petrol or its just for the diesel?
Then the seats, the current Ecosports seats are already very good but the new one gets the same seats the Ford Focus has in Europe, much wider wings and longer under thigh rests, so in theory should give better comfort over current model
Then the new 1.5l Dragon Motor, I feel Fords new Ecosport facelift with 1.5l dragon motor will be a very good alternative to ecoboost, not that ecoboost is bad by any means but the new engine too generate 123 horses and 150 NM just 20 NM shy of the ecoboost and new engine having long stroke and large bore size should have better low end torque than ecoboost,
New Dragon petrol motor is made in India as well, so localization is definitely above 80% and this means it will be cheap, meaning current 1.5 petrol Ecosport sells for around 10.23-10.89 lakhs on road depending on state, so even if there is a price increase for facelift it wont be much in Dragon motor as its even more localized than the TiVCT which now is sourced from Thailand. so in effect the price will remain around 10.5-11.3 lakhs on road itself depending on state as per my calculations
https://www.carwale.com/new/quotati...=y6G+b16Q29cAlEB8Kai3ZbGJifeJTI6iBUG1a1ixWfg=
Then its the features like Projector headlamps,SYNC 3,arm rest,all of which adds better value than current Ecosport
I know at 10.2-10.5 lakhs the ecoboost is a terrific deal but I feel the Ecosport face lift is not just slightly better but far better than current Ecosport at least according to Brazilian reviews, this is what makes me feel that waiting will be WORTH.
I feel Ford will be giving 2 S variants, as of now also the Figo has an S variant, one in petrol and other in diesel, I think Ford will keep S variant for ecoboost variant of petrol Ecosport and for diesel there will be the TDCi, so that will make 3 engine choices
1. Ecoboost as Sporty petrol (might not get the Trend and Titanium variants)
2. Dragon as regular entry level petrol and with 6 speed torque converter Automatic
3. Diesel as Manual and Sporty S
So this caters the widest variety of compact SUV as well , ie Sporty petrol,regular petrol, petrol Automatic, diesel, sporty diesel
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Re: Ford EcoSport Facelift 2017 Exclusive Spyshots
Thats is a possibility as Fords bread and butter product is Ecosport, despite being in market for the 4th year it still managed 4900+ sales month wise and add to it, its almost 50% of Fords total cars sold per month, Ford might go all over the Ecosport, so I think a 140 hp Ecosport S petrol is a possibility, but IB5 gearbox might not be an option. Even if its IB5, it will do enough good to consumers and Ford.
Thats is a possibility as Fords bread and butter product is Ecosport, despite being in market for the 4th year it still managed 4900+ sales month wise and add to it, its almost 50% of Fords total cars sold per month, Ford might go all over the Ecosport, so I think a 140 hp Ecosport S petrol is a possibility, but IB5 gearbox might not be an option. Even if its IB5, it will do enough good to consumers and Ford.
https://www.cardekho.com/india-car-...-spots-in-sales-satisfaction-survey-20814.htm
This is interesting, Ford is right behind Toyota as per this report, yet it dosent translate into sales, so this proves the weakness of Fords advertising team
https://www.cardekho.com/india-car-...-spots-in-sales-satisfaction-survey-20814.htm
Good to see this but yet not much happening on actual sales, seems like Fords advertisement and promotion teams needs some serious revamping.
This is interesting, Ford is right behind Toyota as per this report, yet it dosent translate into sales, so this proves the weakness of Fords advertising team
https://www.cardekho.com/india-car-...-spots-in-sales-satisfaction-survey-20814.htm
Good to see this but yet not much happening on actual sales, seems like Fords advertisement and promotion teams needs some serious revamping.
Re: Ford EcoSport Facelift 2017 Exclusive Spyshots
I do not entirely trust these surveys. However it is well documented how lowsy Ford's marketing department is. Aspire and Figo has the strength to do much better than what they are doing now. Ecosport can simply trounce Brezza day in day out. But they have been duly let down by their marketing team. Hope Ford does something about it.
I do not entirely trust these surveys. However it is well documented how lowsy Ford's marketing department is. Aspire and Figo has the strength to do much better than what they are doing now. Ecosport can simply trounce Brezza day in day out. But they have been duly let down by their marketing team. Hope Ford does something about it.
Re: Ford EcoSport Facelift 2017 Exclusive Spyshots
I too can say this though the buying and after sales experience I have had with ford for the past 7 years have been nothing short of exemplary , so although surveys dosent give full picture of scenario its partially true , Ford has become one of best in terms of sales and after sales, but badly needs better advertising team
I too can say this though the buying and after sales experience I have had with ford for the past 7 years have been nothing short of exemplary , so although surveys dosent give full picture of scenario its partially true , Ford has become one of best in terms of sales and after sales, but badly needs better advertising team
Re: Ford EcoSport Facelift 2017 Exclusive Spyshots
given all the recent buzz with the new pictures coming out and the extensive discussions about engine types, the most important thing is that its already 14th october, diwali next week and no new yet of even a media drive leave aside the launch!!!
given all the recent buzz with the new pictures coming out and the extensive discussions about engine types, the most important thing is that its already 14th october, diwali next week and no new yet of even a media drive leave aside the launch!!!
Re: Ford EcoSport Facelift 2017 Exclusive Spyshots
as quoted from some reliable persons the media drive is in October end. The training for Gujarat technicians for the facelift is slotted from 1st to 8th November. And mostly all India training ends on 12th November. One of the GM from Surat, Gujarat actually said the launch date as 15th November. So lets see where all this speculations end.
Also i am new at this forum and wish to start a poll of choosing between 1.0 Litre Ecoboost Manual vs 1.5 Litre Dragon petrol AT. So all you petrol heads help me choosing.
My requirements are:
1) Only City Driven
2) Not exceed more than 500 kms per month
3) Fuel economy is utmost important but there should be some enthusiastic drive
4) Only EcoSport
5) Budget OTR max 13 Lakhs
6) Automatic preferred but Manual also would be ok
7) A long term reliable engine without any niggles.
as quoted from some reliable persons the media drive is in October end. The training for Gujarat technicians for the facelift is slotted from 1st to 8th November. And mostly all India training ends on 12th November. One of the GM from Surat, Gujarat actually said the launch date as 15th November. So lets see where all this speculations end.
Also i am new at this forum and wish to start a poll of choosing between 1.0 Litre Ecoboost Manual vs 1.5 Litre Dragon petrol AT. So all you petrol heads help me choosing.
My requirements are:
1) Only City Driven
2) Not exceed more than 500 kms per month
3) Fuel economy is utmost important but there should be some enthusiastic drive
4) Only EcoSport
5) Budget OTR max 13 Lakhs
6) Automatic preferred but Manual also would be ok
7) A long term reliable engine without any niggles.
Re: Ford EcoSport Facelift 2017 Exclusive Spyshots
1. 1.5 will be better to drive in city
2. Average of les than 10,000 kms a year, so again petrol makes most sense
3. Fuel economy will be more or less the same inside city between 1.5 and ecoboost
4. Good thinking as one can avoid too much confusion.
5. The 1.5 p with automatic will be right at that price range, I expect around 11.7-12.2 lakhs for Titanium AT Ecospprt.
6. With traffic becoming notorious day by day and with city driving as preferance, AT will be a better choice.
7. Mostly Ford petrol engines and automatic torque converters are reliable, Fords torque converters are sourced from a Company named Tremec, a company that has a superb record of making super reliable transmissions, differentials, etc.
1. 1.5 will be better to drive in city
2. Average of les than 10,000 kms a year, so again petrol makes most sense
3. Fuel economy will be more or less the same inside city between 1.5 and ecoboost
4. Good thinking as one can avoid too much confusion.
5. The 1.5 p with automatic will be right at that price range, I expect around 11.7-12.2 lakhs for Titanium AT Ecospprt.
6. With traffic becoming notorious day by day and with city driving as preferance, AT will be a better choice.
7. Mostly Ford petrol engines and automatic torque converters are reliable, Fords torque converters are sourced from a Company named Tremec, a company that has a superb record of making super reliable transmissions, differentials, etc.
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Can anyone confirm as to how is the rear seat of Compass when compared to that in Ecosport? When I sat in Compass, I thought it has about 2 inches more legroom however the width I thought is exactly the same as Ecosport.
Any views on this.
Can anyone confirm as to how is the rear seat of Compass when compared to that in Ecosport? When I sat in Compass, I thought it has about 2 inches more legroom however the width I thought is exactly the same as Ecosport.
Any views on this.