Ford EcoSport Facelift 2018 Launched in India (Coverage Pg: 34)


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1. 1.5 will be better to drive in city
2. Average of les than 10,000 kms a year, so again petrol makes most sense
3. Fuel economy will be more or less the same inside city between 1.5 and ecoboost
4. Good thinking as one can avoid too much confusion.
5. The 1.5 p with automatic will be right at that price range, I expect around 11.7-12.2 lakhs for Titanium AT Ecospprt.
6. With traffic becoming notorious day by day and with city driving as preferance, AT will be a better choice.
7. Mostly Ford petrol engines and automatic torque converters are reliable, Fords torque converters are sourced from a Company named Tremec, a company that has a superb record of making super reliable transmissions, differentials, etc.
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I wonder if the move to bring a larger capacity engine vs the Ecoboost is the result of this:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...bigger-engines-due-real-world-emissions-tests
Refers to the real-world emission results of small capacity engines.
 
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I wonder if the move to bring a larger capacity engine vs the Ecoboost is the result of this:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...bigger-engines-due-real-world-emissions-tests
Refers to the real-world emission results of small capacity engines.
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Yes this is one of the reason, other reason is Fords new plasma cylinder boring technology , this tech allows larger bore in relatively small block, this improves block mass reduction while retaining cubic inch, that dosent mean ecoboost will go out of market, as Ford has already made a better ecoboost for its new Fiesta and Focus.
 
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The Ecoboost is Euro VI compliant, it is smaller capacity high torque Diesel engines which have the problem including Fiat 1.6 liter engine
 
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The Ecoboost is Euro VI compliant, it is smaller capacity high torque Diesel engines which have the problem including Fiat 1.6 liter engine
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Yes the Dragon is also Euro VI compliant, I feel ford will reserve the ecoboost for petrol S version and TDCi S will be for diesel , so in that sense Ford can give a reason for selling ecoboost in the company of similar HP Dragon motor
 
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Just spoke to Chennai Ford SA, it seems they have been scheduled training from November 1st. As per him, launch could be on January and deliveries start from February. They also happened to see some ad shooting and had a glance on titanium brochure, the ex showroom price of which gonna be above 10lacks.
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price hike is not avoidable for the facelift. ford dealer in malad again quoted this weekend that the new version would be atleast 50000-70000 expensive from mid variants. ford was clearly in no position to compete with nexon pricing, seems another reason for delayed launch.
 
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price hike is not avoidable for the facelift. ford dealer in malad again quoted this weekend that the new version would be atleast 50000-70000 expensive from mid variants. ford was clearly in no position to compete with nexon pricing, seems another reason for delayed launch.
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I don't expect such a steep hike. Maybe about 25k for top variants. They will do a S-Cross which is a marginal hike of 10k-25k.

If top variant comes with Sunroof, then expect a 75k hike. Also, as rightly mentioned by you, I don't think there is much that Ford can do about Nexon.

Nexon is a great package and VFM which Ford can't compete with. The best thing to do is offer a super feature loaded product at the current price and Ford will still get decent volumes.
- Engines better than Nexon
- Steering with Reach & Rake
- Sunroof (If made available)
- Paddle shifters
- ESC, TCS and HLA
- Side& Curtain airbags
- Emergency assist
- Speed sensing door lock / unlock
- 8" screen

Also, I don't think Ford is trying to increase its monthly volumes and try to dethrone Brezza. They have capacity limitations so No point in under cutting the price.
 
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Launch scheduled on November 9th, autocarindia confirmed.
https://www.autocarindia.com/car-news/ford-ecosport-facelift-launch-on-november-9-2017-405981
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If launch is on November 9th I feel the media drives will start from October last week itself, so just 1 more week to go

And regarding price hike this is what I was able to source from Ford dealer Trivandrum
the price hike will be nominal say around 10-12k for base variants, mid variants will have 15-25k range hike and top end variants will have a 75k price difference, and the Platinum edition might get sunroof and that might be the one with 75k price hike,
There is a Titanium S variant that will have some mechanical difference , S variant is for petrol and diesel, they still are not sure whether the S petrol is ecoboost or Dragon

Also other good news is there is a 6 speed torque converter AT mated with Dragon Engine for India and that gets paddle shifters as well, also safety features like ESC,TCS and 6 airbags and Hill hold assist.
 
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Autocar is stating launch will be on 9 Nov-17.

https://www.autocarindia.com/car-news/ford-ecosport-facelift-launch-on-november-9-2017-405981

I have a hunch, since the Ecoboost with 6 speed automatic is going to be exported fromt he same Chennai plant. Me thinks the manual ecoboost will be done away with and the Ecoboost will be sold with the Automatic.
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Thats something everybody would love to see, but not sure whether that will happen ,
The Ford Fiesta globally also has got the new 1.0 ecoboost mated with 6 speed AT, so this is a possibility, but a rare one considering the Brazilian Ecosport has already got the Dragon mated with 6 speed AT
 
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Hmm, that might be since Brazil has the unique Flex fuel, high ethonal fuel requirement. But yes there is a precedent there.
 
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Another question has just popped in my head, what happens to the Automatic Aspire and Figo, currently they follow the same combo as the current ecosport. I have a feeling that these will also geet changed with the Ecosport launch.
 
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Another question has just popped in my head, what happens to the Automatic Aspire and Figo, currently they follow the same combo as the current ecosport. I have a feeling that these will also geet changed with the Ecosport launch.
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Figo and Aspire are due to get an update in 1st half of 2018. along with dragon engine (lower version, 1.2), they will also get the new interior like the ecosport.
 
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Any offers on outgoing ecosport in Diesel variant guys.

My brother in law wants Ecosport Diesel and I read people getting like 2 lakhs discounts on Ecoboost petrol variant.

Please share insights
 
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