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S Class · Jun 11, 2012

Wanted to know if brands like Optimum, ON etc. contain non-veg elements in their whey ? [confused]

This is important for me as I am pure veggie, no egg either.

Besides this, one of my friend is college going chap and wants to buy whey from his own pocket money. His budget is Rs. 1200/kg max. Can anyone suggest a good whey for this price ? He is ready to buy 2kg/4 lbs if he gets it for around 2400. One product which is competitive is that of British Nutritions. Any thoughts on this ?

British Nutritions - Body Building Supplements | Fitness Recipe

Help in this regard will be appreciated. Thanks. [:)]

shubham · Jun 12, 2012

so this is my first post in this thread so let me give a breif introduction
1. current weight 75 kg
2. height - 5 ft 11 inch
3. B.M.I - 23.1 (nomal)
4. Goal : want to bulid chest muslce and flat stomach
workout routine (i do exercise at home )
on this machine for 1 hours then do biceps curl with 6 kgs dumbbells set of 30 ,30 ,30 ,the push up in set 30 20 20
break fast 4 egg whites , juice , oats , fruits
lunch chapati 5 with any sabji
dinner 2 egg om late , salad , fruits and oats
here is my routine.
with this routine i lose about 15 kg but now i want to bulid some muscle my biceps are ok but i badly want to build chest muscle and flat stomach so all you gurus please help me with your suggestion and advice :please:

codename47 · Jun 12, 2012

S Class said:

Optimum Nutrition , Musclepharm, universal , Dymatize , Muscletech etc they are some really well known brands of protein and you can't go wrong with those ones.

I am afraid that they might have traces of eggs in them however no meat. Whey protein is made from dairy . They might have traces of Egg protein and Calcium cassienate in them to help recovering faster. Just double check from bodybuilding.com they give you full ingredients.

British Nutrition products I saw for the first time
Whey platinum is not that great but Extra Whey looks okay to me if thats what they promise.

30 Gm has 25 Gms of Pure Isolate which is good for someone who is just trying to put on lean muscle.

Blends are okay as well Say Optimum nutrition Gold whey and Musclepharm Combat , but in those I know the percentages , 70 Isolate and 30 concentrate thats okay

but if its otherway around than its a waste because Concentrate is cheap compared to Isolate.

concentrate helps in bulking up as there is decent amount of fat in it and takes few hours to get digested. Where as Isolate has less fat and gets absorbed withing 1 hours time to provide recovery.

If he want ask him to get an isolate .

If he wants a blend make sure he gets atleast 50/50 blend

I hope that makes sense bro?

codename47 · Jun 12, 2012

shubham said:

Your on the right track for losing muscle but for building muscle your bit far away

First advise 5 chappatis is a lot! replace them with something else man.
your taking too much carbs and this will make you fat .

I goto gym about 6 days a week and I have about 3-4 chappatis in a DAY

Chest and biceps ?thats it

Let me tell you how it works.

First of all , you have to do all muscle groups in order to build a proper body ( proportions)

If you have biceps and chest only but no legs (chicken legs) means you won't be able to lift heavy weight and poor back will put strain and you'll end up lying on a bed after heavy workout.So in one line - you have to train all the body parts.

you can mix
Chest and Triceps
Back and biceps
Shoulder and legs

Legs are very important. When you workout your legs muscles , your body's testosterone level increases that helps you to grow. Yes these are NATURAL STEROIDS or you can say Growth hormone that promotes growth of the muscle. No matter how hard you workout if you don't do legs you won't be strong.

You diet apart from the chappatis look decent

When you start a good routine make sure you eat yoghurt/ curd , drink milk ( no sugar) ,protein shake or beans /lentils / chickpea etc etc.

I have one program if you want to follow that is (bulk up program):

Day 1 : Chest and Triceps
Chest

1 Flat Bench Press
2 Inclinded Bench press
3 Declined bench press
4 Dumbell flyes

Triceps

5 Triceps Push down (Flat bar)
6 Skull crushers
7 Kick backs
8 Dips

Day 2 Back & Biceps

Back

1 Lats pull down Wide grip
2 Lats pull down behind the neck
3 Lats pull down close grip
4 pullover

Biceps

5 Dumbell curl
6 Barbell curls
7 Hammer curls
8 Preacher curls (EZ bar)

Day 3 : Shoulder & legs

Shoulder

1 Shoulder press
2 Side raises
3 Arnold Press
4 Front raises

Legs

5 Squats
6 Leg press
7 Front leg raises
8 Hamstring curls

All these sets should be in a set of 3 with reps as ( 12,10,8) with weights in increasing order. This technique is called Pyramids sets Because we are increasing weights and decreasing number of reps

if its other way around its called Drop sets thats for shredding/cutting

S Class · Jun 12, 2012

codename47 said:

+1. ON is good. And bro, what about SAN ? Getting discounts on it, worth it ? I have never tried it.

What I came to know that it depends on whether the curdling agent used was acid (vegetarian), microbial rennet (vegetarian) or calf rennet (not vegetarian). In India, I look for that Green Color Square with circle in it to confirm it is veg, but certain imported products don't have such labels. [anger]

(non-veg comes with brown color instead of green)

What's your take on this product -

Welcome To Six Pack Nutrition

+1.

This time is when taken in milk or water ?

OK.

Thanks buddy. [:)]

codename47 · Jun 12, 2012

If your very much concerned about the type of acid used , I wouldn't be much of a help I guess. You may send an email to bodybuilding.com to confirm . They always help you in best possible way

I have about 30-40 orders from them
Recent one is 6 x ON Amino Energy and 2 x 300gm Gaspari Creatine, I haven't got it yet.

I am using Musclepharm Combat (american), Max's Super Whey(australian) and Bulk nutrition ISOLATE ( new zealand) - Yes I have a whole stack of these.

Well why don't you get just pure isolate protein

I never consume protein powders with milk, because it really depends on what is the primary purpose. If your into lean muscle you need isolate with water for faster recovery

If your bulking up than get blend and use skim milk instead

Six pack is something that you can achieve without even worrying about any protein powders.
May I ask you a question [surprise]

, How many times you take your shirt off [embarass]

haha

Well my point is if you want to get six pack means your not thinking to grow big at this stage. Six pack is minimal fat that you can achieve after a Bulk up phase.

You can even ask RAJA if you want.

This is how bodybuilding works.
Get big means BULK Stage/Phase
and than Cutting down phase
and then getting ripped phase

First put on some serious mass/muscle in winters ,
cut down in summer and in spring shred bits of fat and your a good body builder.

S Class · Jun 14, 2012

codename47 said:

Thanks.

Any good brand you can suggest ?

LoL.

I had about 4 packs, got jaundice and everything went for a toss. [anger]

But buddy, the six packs I am talking about is company which manufactures whey and not abs six pack !! [lol]

Please check the link.

Done that, now trying to get proper cuts.

codename47 · Jun 14, 2012

Yeah sure you can bro

Pure isolate
Dymatize ISO 100
Ultimate nutrition Isowhey 100%

they are nice

yeah I've checked that six pack website too.

If your trying to get sharpness , try consuming green tea and avoid lots of carbs and fat

vaibhav · Jun 15, 2012

Weight loss discussion..............

Guys
I dont think we have a thread on how to lose weight ?
It is very important in current stressful life to keep healthy to be away from diseases and hence doctors and big expenditure [surprise]

That money can be even used for modifying our cars [clap]

SO here i am . 27 years old 5.9 in height and weighing 75kgs. I have decided to go jogging from tommorow and lose atleast 5k in weight in next 2 months so that extra fat can be shed in belly [evil]

Guys come on share your exercise routines/diets etc

We need to take care of ourselves and our cars

codename47 · Jun 16, 2012

Welcome aboard Vaibhav

Well said
I spend about 100-200 dollars a month on my supplements and on cars I spend enormous amount .
Back to your query

You are 5 ft 9" and 75 is a lot of weight unless your a body building person. I am guessing you have a big love handles

I am 5 ft9.5" and I weight 69.50KG (chest 41+, Arms 17"+ , Waist 29" )

You need to get into routine of working out.

Start with jogging , are you planning to join a gym

Diet needs to be controlled
Avoid - Rice , carbs , fat ,sweets, drinks
Drink - Green Tea and lots of water
Eat - Veggies (Steamed ) , curd/yoghurt , salads.

If you give me a reason that you eat only 2 times a day and you eat about 6-7 chappaties then your again wrong

you should break your eating habits in small portions . Keep eating but small portions of healthy stuff.

shubham · Jun 16, 2012

@codename buddy what you think is ideal weight for me my current weight and height is 74kg and 5ft and 11 inches and please do give some tips to lose love handle my current waist size is 31.

raj_5004 · Jun 16, 2012

Before I started my Gymming about 1.5 months back, I used to have 10 Chapatis a day (5+5). Later on, I reduced it to 8 chapatis with a little rice. Today I am having only 6 chapatis a day with rice only if I feel very hungry. And I am still alive, infact hale and hearty. I am feeling healthy and facing no weakness or whatsoever. So I plan to reduce the chapatis to 4 or maybe 5 a day from next week.

That makes me think, when I can happily survive with 4-6 chapatis a day, why the hell was I gobbling 10 a day and adding unnecessary fat to my body? Especially in a country where many people die of hunger. Sochle wali baat hain...

codename47 · Jun 16, 2012

shubham said:

Shubham if your not working out then 74 KG for 5 ft 11" is 6 KG more than it should be
that means its all fat

I used to be 74 KG with 30" waist and 15.5" biceps last year. I lost about 4 KG by strict diet.
I stopped consuming all the sweets , fat ( specially chana bhatura and Parantha's since am punjabi) haha

I used to eat soaked lentils (daals/Chana) and used to workout on my abs as well

Try to do as much as cardio and core workout

RAJ : Yeah you don't need that much of carbs a day even if your a big body builder . Many people in India might say you lost weight but that is for good man . because fat is of no use anyways.
I my self eat 4 a day chapati and that too after working hard in the gym and my normal routine job. Currently I am lifting about 100KG bench press and 45 KG barbell curls and 95 KG lats pull down and legg press of about 280KG

I am not boasting here just to give you an overview of my diet so that no one can come back and say hey you don't work as hard as me.

There are exemption too , some people have fast metabolism and they tend to digest everything they at and no fat at all.

I would suggest you Raj to keep doing what your doing and yes it is a healthy way of living :)
Take multivitamins if you ever feel weakness

S Class · Jun 17, 2012

Re: Weight loss discussion..............

codename47 said:

Thanks again. Have great quality green tea lying in cupboard. Will start using it now. I simply bring something & then forget. [embarass]

Will check out isowhey 100%.

vaibhav said:

And not to forget that increase in weight means less fuel efficiency for car. [lol]

For every 50 kg, fuel consumption goes up by 2% in case of regular cars.
Reduce weight & increase FE !

vaibhav · Jun 17, 2012

@ bhai i wont join gym. I will prefer only gymming.

My waist is now 34 and i want to reduce to 32 in a month [cry]

I have 1 query. In non veg which has least fat - chicken,mutton or fish ? Which non veg items dont increase fat

i just cant resist rice

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