Choosing The Right Engine Oil

[ameyam]

My swoft is a month old & has 740km on the odo. Dont know much about oil grades though

In the service on Saturday they said oil chamge was not required at 1st service for thr k10 engines. They did try to coax me for engine waxing but i refused.
Ameyam

 

[Swapnil]

Coming on semi synthetic oils, my Indigo is due for an oil change. I am planning to put in semi synthetic oil, as in half pure synthetic + half pure mineral oil.
I've been using Valvoline mineral oil all along. So I checked with Valvoline first, and they have 5w40 (SynPower) fully synthetic oil.
I think mixing fully synthetic with fully mineral will not harm the engine, but I am not so sure about mixing different grades, i.e. 5w40 with 15w40. Will it be right?

 

[Kichu]

Coming on semi synthetic oils, my Indigo is due for an oil change. I am planning to put in semi synthetic oil, as in half pure synthetic + half pure mineral oil.
I've been using Valvoline mineral oil all along. So I checked with Valvoline first, and they have 5w40 (SynPower) fully synthetic oil.
I think mixing fully synthetic with fully mineral will not harm the engine, but I am not so sure about mixing different grades, i.e. 5w40 with 15w40. Will it be right?

Hi Friend,

No, dont go for mixing. Its harmful.

Synthetic oil is not just an oil, it does also contain some good amount of ingredients to react against carbon deposits and to retain its lubrication property even after a long usage. When mixing a synthetic with mineral oil it may loose the benefits of a synthetic oil and may even results in loosing the property of good lubrication itself.

You can mix same brands and same series of two different grades of synthetic oils. or similarly two different grades of mineral oils. But dont try to mix synthetic with mineral.

Instead directly go for semi-synthetic oils.

Regards.,

 

[yoscenario2000]

Friends,

My new Gen Wagon R VXI 2011 is due to engine oil change.

Please suggest the best suited engine oil for Maruti Suzuki Wagon R.

 

[shrid]

Friends,

My new Gen Wagon R VXI 2011 is due to engine oil change.

Please suggest the best suited engine oil for Maruti Suzuki Wagon R.

• Oil quantity - 2.9 liters
• Oil grade - SAE 5W30
• Oil specification - API GRADE SG+
• Change interval - 10,000 km

 

[Kichu]

Friends,

Hi friend,

My new Gen Wagon R VXI 2011 is due to engine oil change.

Please suggest the best suited engine oil for Maruti Suzuki Wagon R.

K10 engines are recommended 0W-20 grade engine oil for the better performances. Formerly it was 5w-30 as Mr.Shrid said
I got to know about this from my MASS an year back. I confirmed about the same by contacting maruti suzuki through email, and via voice call to the Maruti Suzuki Calicut Area Service Manager.(The nearest Maruti Suzuki ASM to my locality)

Quoting two of our TAI members posts who got 0w-20 engine oil on their regular services from their MASS.

Third free service done :
Oil change
Filter change
Cabin air filter
0w 20 castrol oil
General check up
Tyre rotation

HI all,
Details
20,000 KM service
KMs : 19845

Bill details (major items only)
Coolant : 206
Brake fluid : 136
MGO (0w20) : 1124
MGGO (17w90) : 791

Labour paid service 20k : 850
Coil spring pad change : 400

Total bill amount : 5260/-

Regards.,

 

[Viru]

My swoft is a month old & has 740km on the odo. Dont know much about oil grades though

In the service on Saturday they said oil chamge was not required at 1st service for thr k10 engines. They did try to coax me for engine waxing but i refused.
Ameyam

Yes, you shouldn't need an oil change for a while.

Engine waxing? Never heard of it before, what do you mean?

Coming on semi synthetic oils, my Indigo is due for an oil change. I am planning to put in semi synthetic oil, as in half pure synthetic + half pure mineral oil.
I've been using Valvoline mineral oil all along. So I checked with Valvoline first, and they have 5w40 (SynPower) fully synthetic oil.
I think mixing fully synthetic with fully mineral will not harm the engine, but I am not so sure about mixing different grades, i.e. 5w40 with 15w40. Will it be right?

I wouldn't recommend that at all, mixing oils is precarious business.

My suggestion would be simply going for a Synthetic blend oil that matches the recommended viscosity grade for your vehicle.

Friends,

My new Gen Wagon R VXI 2011 is due to engine oil change.

Please suggest the best suited engine oil for Maruti Suzuki Wagon R.

Is your engine a K10B? If so, 5W30 is the ideal grade.

Personally, I've become a huge fan of Castrol Magnatec 5W30. It's definitely worth the price!

K10 engines are recommended 0W-20 grade engine oil for the better performances. Formerly it was 5w-30 as Mr.Shrid said
I got to know about this from my MASS an year back. I confirmed about the same by contacting maruti suzuki through email, and via voice call to the Maruti Suzuki Calicut Area Service Manager.(The nearest Maruti Suzuki ASM to my locality)

Quoting two of our TAI members posts who got 0w-20 engine oil on their regular services from their MASS.


Regards.,

Hi Kichu,

We've been over this discussion more times than I am bothered to count now, nor am I going to repeat myself.

I'll simply say that I believe written documentation, scientific knowledge and personal experience more than I believe verbal testimony.

 

[ameyam]

Yes, you shouldn't need an oil change for a while.

Engine waxing? Never heard of it before, what do you mean?

I had gotten it done in the old Wagon-R. Guess they simply paint the engine.
The do apply mastic sealer onto mating faces in the silencer which reduces any raspy exhaust notes. Otherwise, its simply beautification AFAIK.

Ameyam

 

[yoscenario2000]

Is your engine a K10B? If so, 5W30 is the ideal grade.

Personally, I've become a huge fan of Castrol Magnatec 5W30. It's definitely worth the price!

Yes Virusir,

mine is K10B.

Still confusion is there, which one to go for 0w-20 or 5W30

 

[Kichu]

Hi Kichu,

We've been over this discussion more times than I am bothered to count now, nor am I going to repeat myself.

Viru, whats wrong with you?
In my post(that you quoted and replied for), NOWHERE I addressed you and its very evident that it is not for you but for the member yoscenario2000.
So Viru, THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO BEHAVE.
Even though its not for you and if you feel my stated information is wrong, then definitely you can question me by quoting them or you can say your belief about that topic, or just neglect it. Other than that , you can't be rude for my post which is not posted for you.

I'll simply say that I believe written documentation, scientific knowledge and personal experience more than I believe verbal testimony.

Obviously, that should be the prefect way to believe something.

"Written Documentation"
I think, When you came to hear from me about MARUTI SUZUKI and HONDA uses 0w-20 for maruti k10 engines and Amaze respectively, you must have tried to get written documentation directly from Maruti Suzuki or Honda by dropping a mail or by making a call am I right? and you must have got it as a Wrong Information. Isn't it? Or else how can you blindly say 0w-20 cant be used for k10b, when a member says he confirmed it with the manufacturer???

Before, I was in search whether the information I got to know from my MASS is true or not. But now I'm confident since I confirmed it with the MANUFACTURER(Not the MASS).


"scientific knowledge and personal experience"
Good to find a person with above qualities, can you please tell us:- Why first version of Maruti's 800cc engines (Mostly 80s nd 90s) used 20w50 grade engine oil and now why the manufacturer started recommending lower grade like 5w-30 grade engine oil in their new 800cc engines?
What is your scientific reason other than the difference in engine and or engine oil technology?
Don't say atmospheric temperature has reduced too much.


NOTE: What I said about 0w-20 is NOT MY recommendations for k10 engines or honda amaze. For god sake please understand that.

Still confusion is there, which one to go for 0w-20 or 5W30

Since you are too much worried about 0w-20 go ahead with 5w-30 with peace of mind, till the usage of 0w-20 gets much popular in our region. ;)

Advantage of 0w-20 is you will get better fuel economy and better performances. 30 or 40 grade oil will gives you even more better protection.

Regards.,

 

[shrid]

@ everyone: Just for the record, I got the information off here : LubeMatch | Cartoq - Honest Car Advice
@yoscenario2000: about what I said in my earlier post. It was a misunderstanding from my end.

 

[yoscenario2000]

@yoscenario2000: about what I said in my earlier post. It was a misunderstanding from my end.

No Problem Friend.

At the end of the day, we all are TAIger's by heart & that says it all.

 

[Viru]

Viru, whats wrong with you?
In my post(that you quoted and replied for), NOWHERE I addressed you and its very evident that it is not for you but for the member yoscenario2000.
So Viru, THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO BEHAVE.
Even though its not for you and if you feel my stated information is wrong, then definitely you can question me by quoting them or you can say your belief about that topic, or just neglect it. Other than that , you can't be rude for my post which is not posted for you.


Obviously, that should be the prefect way to believe something.

"Written Documentation"
I think, When you came to hear from me about MARUTI SUZUKI and HONDA uses 0w-20 for maruti k10 engines and Amaze respectively, you must have tried to get written documentation directly from Maruti Suzuki or Honda by dropping a mail or by making a call am I right? and you must have got it as a Wrong Information. Isn't it? Or else how can you blindly say 0w-20 cant be used for k10b, when a member says he confirmed it with the manufacturer???

Before, I was in search whether the information I got to know from my MASS is true or not. But now I'm confident since I confirmed it with the MANUFACTURER(Not the MASS).


"scientific knowledge and personal experience"
Good to find a person with above qualities, can you please tell us:- Why first version of Maruti's 800cc engines (Mostly 80s nd 90s) used 20w50 grade engine oil and now why the manufacturer started recommending lower grade like 5w-30 grade engine oil in their new 800cc engines?
What is your scientific reason other than the difference in engine and or engine oil technology?
Don't say atmospheric temperature has reduced too much.


NOTE: What I said about 0w-20 is NOT MY recommendations for k10 engines or honda amaze. For god sake please understand that.



Since you are too much worried about 0w-20 go ahead with 5w-30 with peace of mind, till the usage of 0w-20 gets much popular in our region. ;)

Advantage of 0w-20 is you will get better fuel economy and better performances. 30 or 40 grade oil will gives you even more better protection.

Regards.,

Hi again!

I apologize if you interpreted my comment as rude, because that was not my intention in any way, shape or form. I was simply utilizing the purpose of these forums, which is to have open discussions amongst members.

However, if you're going to expect nobody to question your claims and attempt to give me lessons on etiquette, I feel unsure as to whether I can continue the conversation.

If (and only if) you wish to return to a civil manner of conversation, I would like to ask three questions pertaining to your latest post:

1. How is Honda relevant in this discussion?
2. Do you agree that engine oil should not only lubricate, but also protect the engine?
3. Do you admit that too much of a good thing can be a bad thing?

 

[Kichu]

Hi Viru,

First of all really thanks for making your questions specific.

1. How is Honda relevant in this discussion?

"I'll simply say that I believe written documentation, scientific knowledge and personal experience more than I believe verbal testimony." - From this statements I understood that you don't have any of these three things for validating the usage of 0w-20 engine oil in India.(Obviously not for all engines)

"Scientific Knowledge"- Presently your knowledge is, 0w-20grade is not suitable for INDIA(You have already mentioned this in your earlier posts). And you even don't care any verbal testimony. So no matter whatever information I share here about the same.
Hence the relevance of HONDA came into this. So I can show you, not just the Maruti but honda also using the same in India. And if you are a real science freak then here you get few more chances to know more about the usage of 0w-20 in India.

2. Do you agree that engine oil should not only lubricate, but also protect the engine?

Oh my god. So what do you meant by lubrication???
Bro, purpose of lubrication itself is for protecting the engine from wear and tear.

3. Do you admit that too much of a good thing can be a bad thing?

Definitely..



Viru, At first I was happy to see specific questions from you, but later I realized none of the above questions are actually useful for the readers.

Since you keep on rejecting my share about 0w-20 in this forum, I want to know few things from you. Not just me, but also for the readers who are now confused with our contradictions. So I request you to cooperate for the readers by answering.

1. What is your point?
"Neither MARUTI nor HONDA use 0W-20" or "Both MARUTI and HONDA are using WRONG grade oil in k10 and amaze idtec engines" ?

2. Did you ever try to validate the usage of 0w-20 with the MARUTI?(Please forget the MASS, I'm asking about the DIRECT and FORMAL communication with MARUTI.) If yes, can you say what response did you get from maruti about the same?

Regards.,

 

[Mahantesh]

I have been reading good reviews on Petronas Uranium diesel oil. Has anybody tried it on Swift Diesel? I am planning to get my Swift D serviced and its done 24K.

As Petronas and Maruti have joined hands together, any info on Maruti dealers using this oil?