Choosing The Right Engine Oil

[yoscenario2000]

Since you are too much worried about 0w-20 go ahead with 5w-30 with peace of mind, till the usage of 0w-20 gets much popular in our region. ;)

Advantage of 0w-20 is you will get better fuel economy and better performances. 30 or 40 grade oil will gives you even more better protection.

Regards.,

So, can we conclude now that it's 0w-20 is best possible choice or still its otherwise?

Can't reschedule/postpone 40k km service anymore, as I wanted this time to treat K10B engine with best possible engine oil.

Till date I've just gone with MASS offerings regarding engine oil.

Hope to get it done this weekend, for sure.

 

[Kichu]

So, can we conclude now that it's 0w-20 is best possible choice or still its otherwise?

Can't reschedule/postpone 40k km service anymore, as I wanted this time to treat K10B engine with best possible engine oil.

Till date I've just gone with MASS offerings regarding engine oil.

Hope to get it done this weekend, for sure.

Considering your fuel consumption, I believe your driving is really smooth and sedate. In such cases definitely you don't need to worry.
And if you drive mostly on or above 4k rpm then its better for you to go for 5w-30.

 

[Viru]

Hi Viru,

First of all really thanks for making your questions specific.

"I'll simply say that I believe written documentation, scientific knowledge and personal experience more than I believe verbal testimony." - From this statements I understood that you don't have any of these three things for validating the usage of 0w-20 engine oil in India.(Obviously not for all engines)

"Scientific Knowledge"- Presently your knowledge is, 0w-20grade is not suitable for INDIA(You have already mentioned this in your earlier posts). And you even don't care any verbal testimony. So no matter whatever information I share here about the same.
Hence the relevance of HONDA came into this. So I can show you, not just the Maruti but honda also using the same in India. And if you are a real science freak then here you get few more chances to know more about the usage of 0w-20 in India.


Oh my god. So what do you meant by lubrication???
Bro, purpose of lubrication itself is for protecting the engine from wear and tear.

Definitely..

Viru, At first I was happy to see specific questions from you, but later I realized none of the above questions are actually useful for the readers.

Since you keep on rejecting my share about 0w-20 in this forum, I want to know few things from you. Not just me, but also for the readers who are now confused with our contradictions. So I request you to cooperate for the readers by answering.

1. What is your point?
"Neither MARUTI nor HONDA use 0W-20" or "Both MARUTI and HONDA are using WRONG grade oil in k10 and amaze idtec engines" ?

2. Did you ever try to validate the usage of 0w-20 with the MARUTI?(Please forget the MASS, I'm asking about the DIRECT and FORMAL communication with MARUTI.) If yes, can you say what response did you get from maruti about the same?

Regards.,

I'm hardly a science freak, I just respect it. Till date, you are still the only person who I've known to use 0W20 in a K10B in India. Further, I haven't come across any other MASS or fellow engineer who thought it was a good idea.

Weren't you the same Kichu who once upon a time agreed with me that engine oil requirements can vary with the engine at hand? Why the change of heart?

Thanks again for trying to insult me, very professional of you.

As stated countless times, I have not found a single point of a Maruti car's life where someone was recommended 0W20 oil. They don't leave the factory like that, Service stations aren't recommended to use it, and the MUL representatives at MASS have heard nothing positive about it.

I still don't see how you can disqualify my conversation with an MUL representative who supervises multiple MASS' in Delhi, seems a bit unreasonable to me.
Do you want a press conference in your honor?

I have been reading good reviews on Petronas Uranium diesel oil. Has anybody tried it on Swift Diesel? I am planning to get my Swift D serviced and its done 24K.

As Petronas and Maruti have joined hands together, any info on Maruti dealers using this oil?

Sorry, I haven't heard much about that oil before! Could I please see the specs or reviews? I'm curious.

So, can we conclude now that it's 0w-20 is best possible choice or still its otherwise?

Can't reschedule/postpone 40k km service anymore, as I wanted this time to treat K10B engine with best possible engine oil.

Till date I've just gone with MASS offerings regarding engine oil.

Hope to get it done this weekend, for sure.

I wouldn't recommend 0W20 one bit. Although you may be able to live with it, you're going to have to be extremely careful about revving (especially when cold) to prevent damaging the engine.

5W30 is what I know to be good, and what has been tried-and-tested in K10B engines since they were released.

In the end, it's up to you.

 

[yoscenario2000]

Friends,

Following to our discussions regarding best possible engine oil, I got confused and couldn't decide between 0w-20 & 5w-30. (To be honest, I don't have any knowledge regarding the same).

So once again today,I have blindly gone with MASS offerings.

And the MASS, I regularly visit for my Tallboy used 5w30, and said that they use only 5w30.

Thanks a lot friends for your valuable guidance.

 

[Viru]

I apologize if our altercation was unproductive, let's hope it doesn't happen too often!

Any idea on the details of the 5W30 they are using?

 

[yoscenario2000]

Couldn't get more information from SA regarding 5W30. I am going to visit them tomorrow again and will try to get some information. Could you please let me know, exactly what information shall I ask for?

BTW, gone through the service history of my car since purchase in Maruti records, and found out tobe used 5W30 each time.

 

[yoscenario2000]

I've explained the details of the service in my ownership review, if you guys would like to have a look.

http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...ie-pre-owned-wagon-r-2011-a-8.html#post424206

 

[Kichu]

Since you keep on rejecting my share about 0w-20 in this forum, I want to know few things from you. Not just me, but also for the readers who are now confused with our contradictions. So I request you to cooperate for the readers by answering.

1. What is your point?
"Neither MARUTI nor HONDA use 0W-20" or "Both MARUTI and HONDA are using WRONG grade oil in k10 and amaze idtec engines" ?

2. Did you ever try to validate the usage of 0w-20 with the MARUTI?(Please forget the MASS, I'm asking about the DIRECT and FORMAL communication with MARUTI.) If yes, can you say what response did you get from maruti about the same?

Regards.,

Prior to these questions, already gave enough details showing the usage of 0w-20 in india and also now its not just the words from my side, because now there are two of our TAI members who are using 0w-20 in there k10 engine, who got it from their MASS during their periodic service. So nobody can blame me for discussing this grade in this forum.

I'm telling you, those questions where not meant to insult you, but to get specific point from you. Which will helps the readers to understand both of our points that we are debating about. (Anyways I didn't fail to answer to your questions, atleast there you must have see the respect that I gave to the TAI member who asked me the questions)

Thanks again for trying to insult me, very professional of you.

Viru, Its Okay if you cant answer to the above quoted questions. But please, don't need to be rude in a public forum with the usage of such sarcasms especially when you don't have any kind of wrong provokes from my side.(Report/quote the post if you find any).

 

[yoscenario2000]

Guys Guys, Hold On!

With due respect, can I express my views on this ?

In this discussion or for that matter in any discussion on TAI, we all try to help each other and share our experiences.

I really appriciate the efforts and time put in the discussion by both of you for help us out.

In the end, the motive is to guide/help fellow members and IMO its been achieved.

So, its only the heat of the moment, we try to convey our point strongly as per our experience and findings.

And that may sometimes create little conflicts of opinion, but there is no ILL feeling and most importantly its not personal at all IMO.

Therefore, friends lets move on and get ready for more such healthy discussions in the future.

What say ?

 

[Viru]

Viru, whats wrong with you?

THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO BEHAVE.

For god sake please understand that.

Hi Viru,
later I realized none of the above questions are actually useful for the readers.

Prior to these questions, already gave enough details showing the usage of 0w-20 in india and also now its not just the words from my side, because now there are two of our TAI members who are using 0w-20 in there k10 engine, who got it from their MASS during their periodic service. So nobody can blame me for discussing this grade in this forum.

I'm telling you, those questions where not meant to insult you, but to get specific point from you. Which will helps the readers to understand both of our points that we are debating about. (Anyways I didn't fail to answer to your questions, atleast there you must have see the respect that I gave to the TAI member who asked me the questions)



Viru, Its Okay if you cant answer to the above quoted questions. But please, don't need to be rude in a public forum with the usage of such sarcasms especially when you don't have any kind of wrong provokes from my side.(Report/quote the post if you find any).

You will find the deliberately offensive statements quoted above. Refresh your memory and include the statement made by you in your most recent post.

I typically refrain from reporting minor misspeaks like this, because I understand how agitated some people can get in a discussion and would prefer to sort it out amongst one another rather than disturbing moderators.

Anyways, this is very OT, if you wish to talk, feel free to PM or email me!

Couldn't get more information from SA regarding 5W30. I am going to visit them tomorrow again and will try to get some information. Could you please let me know, exactly what information shall I ask for?

BTW, gone through the service history of my car since purchase in Maruti records, and found out tobe used 5W30 each time.

Interesting to see your dedication! I would personally like the following information:

1. Brand
2. Viscosity
3. Friction rating
4. Synthetic/Mineral content
5. Recommended change interval

 

[Kichu]

You will find the deliberately offensive statements quoted above. Refresh your memory and include the statement made by you in your most recent post.

I typically refrain from reporting minor misspeaks like this, because I understand how agitated some people can get in a discussion and would prefer to sort it out amongst one another rather than disturbing moderators.

Dear Brother,

Everything as you said. No objection

 

[joni_rajpura]

last night i cheq the engine oil level of my vista tdi i shock to see that oil level is just above from second dot.i think that means engine oil is over filed or is it ok for tata tdi engine.car was not cranked from last 7 days

 

[joni_rajpura]

today i run the car 4km and after that car was off for 30 min.then i check the engine oil level and level of engine oil was in middle of tow dots

 

[Kichu]

today i run the car 4km and after that car was off for 30 min.then i check the engine oil level and level of engine oil was in middle of tow dots

AFAIK, if this is your observation then its fine, you dont need worry.

 

[joni_rajpura]

i just want to confirm that where is the normal level of engine oil in vista tdi between tow dots or up to second dot