Bought My First Car - Maruti 800 AC


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Here are the photos of my car after Polishing, I used waxpol (black bottle - 70Rs.)

Here below is the new issue, water leakage through the roof end (although I replaced the front windshield beeding)
Instead of Waxpol, A good Autowax will give more shine !!

The problem may not be with the windshield beeding, check the roof rail corner area for any kind of gaps( remove the windshield beeding to understand this)
 
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The body panels are shining in full glory, great job [thumbsup]& thanks for uploading the pics.

Regarding the water leakage after the rubber beading replacement, its a sure shot case of fitting the rubber beading directly without using the 3M sealant. The same thing is used to stick windshield glasses in new age cars nowadays.
As I have faced similar water leaking issue in my 800 & old Fiat too i would suggest you to use a Anabond 666T silicone gasket maker ( a tube costs Rs 50) , lift the rubber beading away from the body a few millimeters ( using a flat screw driver) and squeeze the sealant in between the gap. Once dry it will prevent water from entering the car.
Hope this helps.
 
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WOW car is looking as if it is new !!

Why not bend the bumper clamp down so that the bolts fit in properly, also remove the center pole and make it straight, its very easy job just 3 screws it will come out.

For the water leakage try as told by Samsang12, use silicon paste and seal it.
 
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Confirmed the location of the leak.

WOW car is looking as if it is new !!

Why not bend the bumper clamp down so that the bolts fit in properly, also remove the center pole and make it straight, its very easy job just 3 screws it will come out.

For the water leakage try as told by Samsang12, use silicon paste and seal it.
Thanks Varun & Samsag,
I will surely buy that Anabond 666T & fix that leak soon. The bumper will have to wait as this Oil leak is sort of disturbing me a lot.

The body panels are shining in full glory, great job [thumbsup]& thanks for uploading the pics.

Regarding the water leakage after the rubber beading replacement, its a sure shot case of fitting the rubber beading directly without using the 3M sealant. The same thing is used to stick windshield glasses in new age cars nowadays.
As I have faced similar water leaking issue in my 800 & old Fiat too i would suggest you to use a Anabond 666T silicone gasket maker ( a tube costs Rs 50) , lift the rubber beading away from the body a few millimeters ( using a flat screw driver) and squeeze the sealant in between the gap. Once dry it will prevent water from entering the car.
Hope this helps.
That is very helpful, thanks a lot.

Instead of Waxpol, A good Autowax will give more shine !!

The problem may not be with the windshield beeding, check the roof rail corner area for any kind of gaps( remove the windshield beeding to understand this)
I tried to remove the Windshield beeding, but fixing it again is a big head ache. I better try the silicon sealant tube first.

Yeah, you are right. Waxpol is good, but not good enough. Is "AutoWax" name of a polish? or is there any other brand that you would suggest.

Your car looks shiny after waxpol polish and interiors are lovely.

Great going SS80[thumbsup]
Thanks again.


Last night after the cleaning, I spread some newspapers below the car & kep stones on them in corners (so that they dont fly off [;)]). This morning I checked, I am 100% sure that this leak is not from any other source (like oil filter/steering parts etc) it is coming from the Mseal near the drain bolt. Here are a few pics.

NEWSPAPER LEAK-001.JPG

oIL LEAK CONFIRMED (1)-001.JPG

oIL LEAK CONFIRMED (2)-001.JPG .

I think to fix this issue (permanently) I need to
  1. Drain the engine oil & store it seperately away from dust etc.
  2. Disconnect the battery terminals (to avoid cranking when no oil is there)
  3. Keep stones on both sides of rear wheel
  4. jack the right side front wheel & get some wooden blocks to support the weight of car in case the Jack gives up
  5. Remove the Exhaust Pipe (not manifold, only the pipe)
  6. Remove heat shield above it
  7. then carefully remove all the bolts holding the oil sump
  8. look for replacement part either new(preferred choice) or used one
  9. Not sure if this part has some gasket also near the bolts

Here is a pic to understand what all sits between the oil sump & me
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Please let me know if I am missing something here.
Varun I dont think I need to do anything to the cross member, plz confirm.
 
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Re: Confirmed the location of the leak.

I tried to remove the Windshield beeding, but fixing it again is a big head ache. I better try the silicon sealant tube first.

Yeah, you are right. Waxpol is good, but not good enough. Is "AutoWax" name of a polish? or is there any other brand that you would suggest.
Reliance Auto zone sell some good Autowax brands, I bought one long time back and it is not there with me now. You can check once !!

I know it is a difficult task to remove the beeding, but I doubt this silicon sealant is not a permanent solution [confused]
 
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Re: Confirmed the location of the leak.

Am glad to be of some help to you [:)]. Just wanted to point out one thing, the engine oil sump does have a gasket to seal the joint. Please obtain a new one and use the Anabond sealant to stick it on the clean sump surface to prevent mismatch.

BTW you can purchase Turtle wax polish or can go for any other product, just be aware of the fake Formula one products. My 2 cents
 
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Thanks everybody for the inputs,

I will try to check the beeding fitting once again & then will try the silicon sealant.
I will also look for this Turtle wax polish. I will enquire the price of the Engine Oil sump & then will start working on it ASAP.

One more doubt: (Plz dont mind, this might sound silly)

Is this Oil sump available only as a MGP? or are there any reliable alternatives? Because I dont want to do anything temporary under the engine etc. It should last for quite a few years atleast. I will look for the Part number, picture & gasket name in my Parts catalogue & will update here shortly.

Samsag12: Yes, I have read on other forums about the fake formula one products being sold with identical sticker graphics & containers. I better stick to something from 3M or Turtle Wax. That was a very good reminder, sometimes I trust some products because their names are very attractive/ Auto related.
 
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Hi SS80, sorry for the late reply. Its better to get a new oil sump.

Here are the details -

Part no 16520M84000

AFAIK
you need to remove the middle supporting rod, connected from cross member to chassis to remove the oil sump..
 
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Hi SS80, sorry for the late reply. Its better to get a new oil sump.

Here are the details -

Part no 16520M84000

AFAIK
you need to remove the middle supporting rod, connected from cross member to chassis to remove the oil sump..
Thanks for the details Varun, yes you are right. To remove this Oil sump, we need to remove lots of things

  1. Exhaust pipe
  2. Supporting rod

This is a task for the Professional (our favorite Mechanic Mr.Ashok), anyways here are the pictures of the bolts we are referring to.

bolts on the cross member
behind bumper.JPG

bolts on the chassy
bottom pic.JPG

bolt on the firewall
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metal paste
metal paste.JPG

Right now, I have just applied metal paste & left it for today. Will soon get the Oil sump replaced at the garage.
 
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The oil sump costs you 450 - 500 rs MGP. Its better to get the engine down and fix it. Instead of removing so many parts. The member in the middle holds the engine, so you need to either hook or put a jack to support the engine, so its better to get the engine out !!

So any way you can clean the entire engine also if possible get the grooves !
Easy to change all the boots too.
 
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Thanks for the info Varun. I agree, its better to get the engine out. In the meantime, I felt the rear dampers need to be changed. Not sure, if I am correct. Here is a short video, guys need your help here. Is this ok?

Varun: Recently you changed your Damper, what was the cost? Do you have any pic of new and old ones?

Maruti 800 Car Damper - YouTube
 
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