Accessories For Maruti Suzuki Dzire Tour LDi

[jarpickle]

There is thread about building a DIY battery charger:
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/technical-zone/12653-charge-your-car-batteries-home.html

 

[SankarNarayanan]

Light and AC depends on usage.

The ECU/ECM and fuel injection, Ignition coil will always be working.

The battery is not generating power.The alternator is, the battery just stores it for starting the car and steps in when the alternator cannot provide enough power.

The alternator spins faster than the engine pulley since its smaller in size.Most alternators will spin to 10000rpm.If you can find an alternator that will spin to say 15000rpm and that generate power onwards from 1500-2000rpm(Engine idle)you can use that.

The alternator pulley is usually smaller than the engine pulley and for example if the engine pulley is 6 inches in diameter and the alternator is 3 inches in diameter then the alternator would turn at (6/2)3x the speed of the engine.At an idle speed of 800 engine rpm, the alternator turns 2400 rpm. At this speed most alternators output is very low if your alternator charges at idle then its different, I have been told Denso alternators charge at idle. At 2000 engine rpm, the alternator is turning at 6000, most alternators provide nearly full output at 6000-7000rpm. But if your engine goes to over 3500 rpm the alternator would be running at close to 11000 rpm which would burn out the alternator after a short while.No manufacturer wants the alternator to get burnt so they do not make a pulley in such a way that you can redline the alternator.Here is where the higher rpm alternators come in, if you have the specs for your alternator and it can run to 15000rpm then you can get a custom pulley made for the alternator by using this.Best way to get a high rpm alternator is a Honda.The Vtecs rev to 7000rpm if not higher.

If you think this is too much then you should get just a high power alternator with a pulley suitable for your car.

Coming to the batteries, even if your current alternator can handle 2 batteries it won't be able to charge them both, especially not in a short amount of time.You will have to keep an eye on the batteries and charge them externally every time they reach a certain limit.

Thanks Jarpickle for descriptive and informative post. In my case stock battery will power all electrical systems in my car while the secondary battery in boot will power the ICE. But both batteries will be connected parallel so that both act like a single battery. In such a case what ever the scenario, both batteries won't drain completely and alternator will basically have the same load as that of charging my current single battery. In my current setup the load on battery is a bit high. In dual battery setup, load on single battery will come down significantly and thus will enable higher and stable output to all electrical systems in my car. In short i will be able to provide constant 14.4v supply to all the systems which in turn will mean higher RMS ratings from my amps and a much more powerful ICE all at cost of half the price of a capacitor.

Regards,
Sankar

 

[SankarNarayanan]

jarpickle@

Sankar@
Why dont you check and reduce the usage?
Is it 130 W H/L is really required? why dont you try the Philips extreme vision/Osaram night breaker plus instead of current bulbs?
Is it fog lamp really giving a good output compared to the watts they use?
I think you read yesterday's newspaper, after sunfilm, our Kerala police and Rashiraj singh going to start penalise for music system & LCD screens.(I am not sure how it'll workout). So think again abut the ICE expense you spending.

Why dont you check and reduce the usage?

Will do so if i get a chance. But day by day my car's electrical load is increasing and not at all decreasing

Is it 130 W H/L is really required? why dont you try the Philips extreme vision/Osaram night breaker plus instead of current bulbs?

I tried Philips Extreme Vision and found them to have poor throw. Heck i even found 100/90 didn't suit my needs. I do a lot of night driving and 130w high beam is too good. Once you get familiar with them then you will find even hid to be short on throw(Had a chance to check out 520D)

Is it fog lamp really giving a good output compared to the watts they use?

Yes my fog lamps are not the crap MGA units. They are imported DLAA fog lamps and are very powerful. They light up near objects which may be too short for low beam.

I think you read yesterday's newspaper, after sunfilm, our Kerala police and Rashiraj singh going to start penalize for music system & LCD screens.(I am not sure how it'll workout). So think again abut the ICE expense you spending.

I had sun control film in my car but i removed them recently because SC had ruled against them. Strictly i don't think Dzire AC requires sun film as they are more than capable of cooling the car even in hot summer afternoon. Coming to ICE i am a hardcore ICE fan and won't give up my ICE. What ever rule he brings out regarding ICE i really don't care and i am plonking another 1L to my ICE. Also the rule states only public registered vehicles will be affected. So i don't think people should worry about this rule.

Regards,
Sankar

 

[jarpickle]

Sankar, you are just increasing the storage capacity of power and not the generation of that power which is what you need.

 

[SankarNarayanan]

Sankar, you are just increasing the storage capacity of power and not the generation of that power which is what you need.

Yes and power load to battery will decrease when additional battery is strapped right? Also charge will be distributed evenly between the battery so won't the alternator be able to charge both the batteries easily? A friend of mine has used add on batteries without any kind of modification to his alternator. He only went for an upgraded alternator after he decided to go for another 4000w RMS monoblock and 2 more SPL 15" subwoofers.

Regards,
Sankar

 

[jarpickle]

Have you calculated the total amperage of the setup?How much has it come up to?

Also calculate the load of the cars ECU/ECM, headligghts, AC and LED's etc as well.Do post the figure.

 

[SankarNarayanan]

Have you calculated the total amperage of the setup?How much has it come up to?

Also calculate the load of the cars ECU/ECM, headligghts, AC and LED's etc as well.Do post the figure.

Actually nope. I don't have any idea on power consumed by ECU and other electrical stuff. i know for sure the most power hungry devices are my ICE. But for rest i really don't know. Can you help me out with this?

Regards,
Sankar

 

[jarpickle]

Have had a word with Varun regarding this.Just drop him a message.

 

[SankarNarayanan]

Have had a word with Varun regarding this.Just drop him a message.

Yes i have done that.

Regards,
Sankar

 

[Varun560061]

Please confirm what's the capacity of the alternator, swift & dzire (petrol) comes with 70 amps. So there is no chance that it can charge the second battery.

If your Dzire has 90 amps too, it would not be able to charge two batteries.

 

[balarshnan]

You want add on like these?

Regards,
Sankar

No man :). Happy with my inbuilt Music Player As we talked yesterday I need those 3D mats. Catch you in the evening

 

[SankarNarayanan]

Please confirm what's the capacity of the alternator, swift & dzire (petrol) comes with 70 amps. So there is no chance that it can charge the second battery.

If your Dzire has 90 amps too, it would not be able to charge two batteries.

Capacity of stock battery is 65 amps. I am planning a second battery with same ratings? I have no clue on capacity of alternator.

A friend of mine was running two additional batteries with similar ratings for more than 1.5 years and he upgraded the alternator only when we went for Hertz MP 15K monoblock amplifier which needs 6 amaron batteries with 80 amphere ratings

He confidently told me to go for secondary battery instead of capacitor and my alternator will have no issues charging both.

Regards,
Sankar

 

[SankarNarayanan]

Hi Folks,

I am still stuck between the decision Capacitor vs Additional battery. Meanwhile i am still searching for Infinity - Kappa 120.9w 12" subwoofer. It costs 7690 in Snapdeal (But currently out of stock)

Infinity - Kappa 120.9w 12" subwoofer - http://www.snapdeal.com/product/infinity-kappa-1209w-12-high/659134?pos=66;85

Shall i go for Infinity - Kappa 100.9w 10'' High Performance Selectable Impedance Subwoofer which has same power rating as that of 12" subwoofer?

Infinity - Kappa 100.9w 10" subwoofer - http://www.snapdeal.com/product/infinity-kappa-1009w-10-high/659133?pos=21;85

Regards,
Sankar

 

[SankarNarayanan]

Hi Folks,

Found couple of unbelievable deals in internet for subwoofers. I think the website is fraud just going by their prices of premium SPL subwoofers

Rockford Fosgate T2 subwoofer only 23000. (Actual MRP is around 55000)

Rockford Fosgate T212D4 - Component Subwoofers - Car Subwoofers - Car Audio Avenue Sound

Kicker Kicker 11S12L72 - 19500 (Actual MRP is around 40000)

Kicker 11S12L72 Avenue Sound

Pioneer TS-W2502D2 10" SPL subwoofer just costs 9000rs

Pioneer TS-W2502D2 Avenue Sound

I am stunned by the prices. Is this genuine products?

Regards,
Sankar

 

[jarpickle]

Do they have cash on delivery service?

If yes then it would be an unbelievable deal.