What Went Wrong with Ford Figo!

[amit1km]

The problem is not happening to each every figo car. This problem also not with FORD only.

It is we can unfortunate one to have that defective car. Tell me,which company dose not have defective piece in their lot.
If somebody get unlucky, that defective piece will come to possession.

 

[VivekRj.Dieselhead]

The problem is not happening to each every figo car. This problem also not with FORD only.

It is we can unfortunate one to have that defective car. Tell me,which company dose not have defective piece in their lot.
If somebody get unlucky, that defective piece will come to possession.

But most of the brands do take responsibility, a couple of years ago came to know that a dealer in our area replaced a SX4 for some issues, and i am sure they were minor in front of these occurring in this Figo.

 

[alexddas]

The problem is not happening to each every figo car. This problem also not with FORD only.

It is we can unfortunate one to have that defective car. Tell me,which company dose not have defective piece in their lot.
If somebody get unlucky, that defective piece will come to possession.

So what do you suggest?
Do you want that unlucky fellow who is unfortunate to get a defective car to just sit and cry on his fate?
Our brother here is taking a great effort on which we all must be proud of.
Every company have a defective piece which has to be replaced by the company,
our bro here is fighting for that on which he needs our support.

 

[chayan]

Hi Frod Figo, last update was 24 Nov. Any update after that? What happened?

 

[MSN1]

So what do you suggest?
Do you want that unlucky fellow who is unfortunate to get a defective car to just sit and cry on his fate?
Our brother here is taking a great effort on which we all must be proud of.
Every company have a defective piece which has to be replaced by the company,
our bro here is fighting for that on which he needs our support.

if it is US the story wont occur at all, with immediate effect company replace the car, but we cant expect the same thing to happen easier/faster in this corrupted nation

with full adamant attitude and effort from customer we can made it happen here
lets join hands and help him if we can do anything on this matter.

Mods ::: TAI was been invited for the ecosport review which means they recognized us and valued our review / input, so with your sources / contacts at ford is it possible to pass on this info to ford and make them do needy for the frod figo

 

[amit1km]

So what do you suggest?
Do you want that unlucky fellow who is unfortunate to get a defective car to just sit and cry on his fate?
Our brother here is taking a great effort on which we all must be proud of.
Every company have a defective piece which has to be replaced by the company,
our bro here is fighting for that on which he needs our support.

I think you have taken me wrong here.i not saying he will carry on with the defective piece rather it is company's responsibility to address the issue effectively. What I want to tell is that due to this we can not conclude that figo is a bad car,ford is useless company etc.

 

[alexddas]

I think you have taken me wrong here.i not saying he will carry on with the defective piece rather it is company's responsibility to address the issue effectively. What I want to tell is that due to this we can not conclude that figo is a bad car,ford is useless company etc.

Agree,but these are the incidents from which a car or a company can be rated.
A car/company become useless with similar repeated incidents.
The Tcdi engine from ford has found consuming more oil than any engine on many of the posts in the forum,which we must be seriously aware of.
From these incidents and bad experience of our fellow members we can definitely rate an engine or a company USELESS.

 

[manish09]

I agree too.. i have also heard many bad stories about figo and ford A.S.S. from friends and relatives. That is the reason not even considered for any inquiry for my new car purchase.

Agree,but these are the incidents from which a car or a company can be rated.
A car/company become useless with similar repeated incidents.
The Tcdi engine from ford has found consuming more oil than any engine on many of the posts in the forum,which we must be seriously aware of.
From these incidents and bad experience of our fellow members we can definitely rate an engine or a company USELESS.

 

[chayan]

Agree,but these are the incidents from which a car or a company can be rated.
A car/company become useless with similar repeated incidents.
The Tcdi engine from ford has found consuming more oil than any engine on many of the posts in the forum,which we must be seriously aware of.
From these incidents and bad experience of our fellow members we can definitely rate an engine or a company USELESS.

Just to put things in perspective before we start bashing the Ford TDCI engine in general. All diesel engines consume oil and how much depends more on the driver and the way/kms the engine is driven. Just to give a comparison; the following excepts are from the Toyota Innova handbook:
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Engine oil consumption - Page 135 Innova owner's manual

It is normal that an engine should consume some engine oil during
normal engine operations.

The amount of engine oil consumed depends on the viscocity of the oil,
the quality of the oil and the conditions the vehicle is driven under.

More oil is consumed by high speed driving and frequent acceleration
and decelartion.

A new engine consumes more oil, since its pistons, piston rings and
cylinder walls have not become conditioned.

Oil consumption: Max. 1.0 L per 1000 kms.

When judging the amount of oil consumption, note that the oil may
become diluted and make it difficult to judge the true level accurately.

As an example, if a vehicle is used for repeated short trips, and
consumes a normal amount of oil, the dipstick may not show any drop in
the oil level at all, even after 1000 kms or more. This is because the
oil is gradually becoming diluted with fuel or moisture, making it
appear that the oil level has not changed.

The diluting ingredients evaporate out when the vehicle is then driven
at high speeds, as on an expressway, making it appear that the oil is
excessively consumed after driving at high speeds.
=========================

I am sure similar would be the case with other engines too.
With respect to FASS; yes I agree that the general opinion in the Ikon era was that Ford service was terrible. However now this has improved a lot.
However again much depends on the particular ASS or even the SA who is servicing the car.

I am not saying that in this particular case Ford is doing enough, however lemons do occur for all manufacturers and its safe to say that no company has 100% satisfied customers.

Lets try to solve this author's problem by providing advice rather than discussing if Figo is a good car or not. The author in question has not updated the thread after 24 Nov 2012 (nearly 6 months), hence either the problem has been solved or he has sold the car. Unless and until he comes back; I am afraid the objectivity of this thread is being missed.

 

[alexddas]

Max oil consumption 1.0 liter/1000kms in diesel engines?
Swift,Punto have a capacity of 3.1liters,innova 6.50liters,so as per your calculation what will happen to swift's engine after 3000kms and to innova after 6000kms?
I never found in the fiat engines and in an innova engine a noticeable decease on oil, on oil changes which had even done ODO 100000 above kms.
If ford tcdi consumes oil as per the posts on the forum it have to be noticed.
And one more thing i do not understand how fuel get diluted with oil , as per my knowledge the fuel is compressed in a different chamber which has no access to the engine oil.
And how come moisture come mix with engine oil?
The evaporation takes place but it won;t decrease the oil level to the maximum value you have posted on a healthy engine.
If it does then the engine is unhealthy.

 

[chayan]

Hi Alex, it all depends where and with what mindset we are looking at a specific issue. As I said all diesel engines consume oil and the reason according to me has to do more with how its being driven rather than the engine itself. No contradictions - Ford and Toyota engines consume oil and so do Fiat (multijets) if this review is to be believed:
FIAT LINEA - Review | Price | Specifications | Mileage | Rating - MouthShut.com - MouthShut.com

Excerpts from the review:
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Engine oil consumption more and no indication of it and engine get seezed. Serious engine problems for all cars and those who are keeping the cars in their home garage only not having problems. All thos who are using their cars ar facing the problems and majority of the 2009 and 2010 buyers got fed up and sold the car on high loss. Good bye to Fiat..............................
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Possibly the reviewer had a very bad experience which came out in the review, but the point is multijets do consume engine oil like the others (considering the review to be extreme but not 100% inaccurate).
With respect to oil dilution, I guess its a common problem to both diesel and petrol engines and specifically if the engine is new (within break-in period). The following links might help.
TheDieselStop.Com - www.thedieselstop.com

 

[VivekRj.Dieselhead]

Hi Alex, it all depends where and with what mindset we are looking at a specific issue. As I said all diesel engines consume oil and the reason according to me has to do more with how its being driven rather than the engine itself. No contradictions - Ford and Toyota engines consume oil and so do Fiat (multijets) if this review is to be believed:
FIAT LINEA - Review | Price | Specifications | Mileage | Rating - MouthShut.com - MouthShut.com

Excerpts from the review:
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Engine oil consumption more and no indication of it and engine get seezed. Serious engine problems for all cars and those who are keeping the cars in their home garage only not having problems. All thos who are using their cars ar facing the problems and majority of the 2009 and 2010 buyers got fed up and sold the car on high loss. Good bye to Fiat..............................
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Possibly the reviewer had a very bad experience which came out in the review, but the point is multijets do consume engine oil like the others (considering the review to be extreme but not 100% inaccurate).
With respect to oil dilution, I guess its a common problem to both diesel and petrol engines and specifically if the engine is new (within break-in period). The following links might help.
TheDieselStop.Com - www.thedieselstop.com

Can't comment on this review, but i am a fiat MJD user and i don't agree with it. This is not at all happening with me, and i think there are too much fiat MJD users on TAI, and i am sure they are also not having this issue. If their rides are in good condition.

 

[chayan]

Vivek,

The following have been taken from the Owners manual of the Punto (under section ENGINE OIL CONSUMPTION) - refer screenshot.

That you or other members have not faced this issue is may be because of your driving styles (well I generally consider Punto owners to be better drivers in general :-) ).

Anyway that multijets too consume engine oil is proved beyond doubt.

 

[VivekRj.Dieselhead]

Vivek,

The following have been taken from the Owners manual of the Punto (under section ENGINE OIL CONSUMPTION) - refer screenshot.

That you or other members have not faced this issue is may be because of your driving styles (well I generally consider Punto owners to be better drivers in general :-) ).

Anyway that multijets too consume engine oil is proved beyond doubt.

See buddy i agree with those points but it doesn't implies that it would always consume oil and BTW its written MAX which means it would do this in worst case.

If you really want proof then simply start a new thread related to this specific topic of MJD, i hope i would clear all doubts.

 

[alexddas]

Guys check out the attachment, it is from the innova users manual,
Chayan said is right, engine may consume more oil but not to the max as he indicated.
The 2nd point in the attachment.