Two Enthusiasts Go Storm Hunting - Tata Safari Storme Test Drive Review
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Dear who told you this that in US SUV's are bought for grocery shopping only![[surprise]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Surprise.gif "Surprise [surprise]")
let me clear some misconception that many people have on this very topic. Even a lot of my friends used to think so. Let me state some reasons why people in America buy SUV's:
1. Safety: Serious accidents usually result in fatalities. The speeds on US roads are comparatively higher than our Indian roads and when there is an accident, sedans involved in those accidents take a lot of fatalities comparing to SUV's. This is a survey done by ABC news, AAA story, Recent US Gov. studies.
2. Seating: SUV's have more seating space as compared to sedans. Now let's say i am in India and planning a short trip in a sedan and at the last moment one more person joins us, we can accommodate 4 people in the back seat, but in US you can't. So SUV comes into picture.
3. Freight Carrying Capacity: Most sedans have little room for carrying the things a family carries. And when people back here in US go for a trip or vacation they carry a lot of stuff, ex: A full load of camping gear.
Also many people take their dogs with them as well. So in a SUV they can easily put their dog at the back with 5 people in front 2 seats.
4.Towing Capabilites: People here take their boat trailers, caravans with them when they go for a vacation and they are big and heavy which a sedan can't tow. Sedans do not have powerful/strong enough components to do such stuff.
5. Long Distance Driving: People prefer SUV because they have more space, can sit comfortably, can carry lot of stuff, can go on any terrain they want, and point no. 6 comes handy when you travel in a SUV.
6. Poor Driving Conditions: Sedans can do very well on a well laid highway but when it comes to uneven roads, unpaved roads, icy conditions, driving in snow, high winds etc sedans can't perform the way a SUV can.
Trust me buddy i have seen some really bad snow storms where expensive sedans with AWD options get stuck and only SUV's are seen on the roads. And forget about roads, highways you can't even take your car out of the driveway in such conditions.
PLUS: What you have said for getting grocery.
I am not 100% sure about this but yes we may see a hike in car prices in the new year. My dad was telling me the same thing when i talked to him 2 days ago. One of our bank manager (where we have our business account) told him that car prices will increase in JAN.
But i am not 100 percent sure about this as we not heard anything like this from a legit source.
let me clear some misconception that many people have on this very topic. Even a lot of my friends used to think so. Let me state some reasons why people in America buy SUV's:
1. Safety: Serious accidents usually result in fatalities. The speeds on US roads are comparatively higher than our Indian roads and when there is an accident, sedans involved in those accidents take a lot of fatalities comparing to SUV's. This is a survey done by ABC news, AAA story, Recent US Gov. studies.
2. Seating: SUV's have more seating space as compared to sedans. Now let's say i am in India and planning a short trip in a sedan and at the last moment one more person joins us, we can accommodate 4 people in the back seat, but in US you can't. So SUV comes into picture.
3. Freight Carrying Capacity: Most sedans have little room for carrying the things a family carries. And when people back here in US go for a trip or vacation they carry a lot of stuff, ex: A full load of camping gear.
Also many people take their dogs with them as well. So in a SUV they can easily put their dog at the back with 5 people in front 2 seats.
4.Towing Capabilites: People here take their boat trailers, caravans with them when they go for a vacation and they are big and heavy which a sedan can't tow. Sedans do not have powerful/strong enough components to do such stuff.
5. Long Distance Driving: People prefer SUV because they have more space, can sit comfortably, can carry lot of stuff, can go on any terrain they want, and point no. 6 comes handy when you travel in a SUV.
6. Poor Driving Conditions: Sedans can do very well on a well laid highway but when it comes to uneven roads, unpaved roads, icy conditions, driving in snow, high winds etc sedans can't perform the way a SUV can.
Trust me buddy i have seen some really bad snow storms where expensive sedans with AWD options get stuck and only SUV's are seen on the roads. And forget about roads, highways you can't even take your car out of the driveway in such conditions.
PLUS: What you have said for getting grocery.
Otherwise I do agree with you, when I said Im considering STORME after jan 2013 they were tried to scare me by saying 40k hike would be there after dec on STORME model. ![[frustration]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Frustration.gif "Frustration [frustration]")
can any one confirm me this price hike
help me since im new here i joined long ago but today i posted...
can any one help me here to pic good color for ex model
i was thinking silver but not sure
can any one confirm me this price hike
help me since im new here i joined long ago but today i posted...
can any one help me here to pic good color for ex model
i was thinking silver but not sure
But i am not 100 percent sure about this as we not heard anything like this from a legit source.
Originally Posted by Superbad
this aint america where people buy SUVs for grocery shopping and a sedan for their city driving.
this aint america where people buy SUVs for grocery shopping and a sedan for their city driving.
The best part of owning a good SUV.
I work abroad and here nobody owns or buys an suv trucks for show off or to demand respect unlike in India as what I hear everywhere.
I have many time encountered in TAI that SUV's scare people and that is the sole reason of owning an SUV, which is too insane.
SUV's are not for sprint rides but for heavy performance and I think storme does tick that box well.
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Hmm, actually buddy all you need to do is REREAD THE XOVER'S post. And in the post I was asked "WHICH ONE LOOKS MORE OF A PAKKA SUV?" not "WHICH ONE IS A BETTER CAR?" But I guess you took it another way, thinking that I said "Storme is BETTER than ENDY"!! So I guess you have taken me wrong, please read the post again and then decide if the SUBJECTIVE opinion was about whole vehicle or only PAKKA (modern too) SUVish looks.
More browny points in which field? Looks and only looks..especially in that particular post. And looks are SUBJECTIVE..
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XUV offers a fine balance of both, oaded with gizmos and offers good comfort too. That's the reason it's ruling. I don't know why Tata hasn't given a dual din and an auto A/C in Storme. Though these things are more show then go...but then show is also important.
Agree.
Okay buddy, what special you find in that PAINT QUALITY THING?? Every car in the segment offers the same of it, only the color makes the difference, metallic painted vehicles when polished look same way.
NOW LOOK AT THIS..open the boot door and you will find this fit there in the D pillar..WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS? I have checked EVEN Scorpio too up and down but it is also not having even a single bit like this:
Before that you need to sit in one and yes, by seeing your those so called (non)sexy legs pics in 'pics of you' thread I am sure you will easily fit into it.
Jo dikhta hai, woh bikta hai.
A better vehicle sells even if so much marketing is not done.
And what about stop-move traffic or what we call B to B traffic? There you will turn the car around?
And what to do of in-gear acceleration? What about those lazy revs when you need sudden power for a quick overtake on a dual carriageway?
How many owners will take their XUV or Storme off the road? And on the road....hahahaha..
BTW, in side-to-side pics it's impossible to recognize which one is W6 and which one is W8!!
So you mean that 'sluggish' SUVs like Safari are not for kids..they are for oldies!!
Correction: Pajero SPORT
Rest you rated them as SUVs or for looks?
BTW, for pure butch looks, Pajero(not Pajero sport) is number one for me too.
You mean a Storme is better than a Fortuner off the road..Eh, though I have heard it for the first time but since you have a LOT of knowledge
so I agree..
Agree on many points of you.
Especially the paint bit.
The metallic paints though may look upmarket when coming out of the showroom, for day to day use those colours would be a pain to maintain (shine,gloss,finish)
same goes during patching up for those colours.
With crazy driving around the cities there would be possibility of brush up and mending those paint jobs will be a costly affair.
Personal experience.
Even though i have cared enough to avoid scratches, crazy scooter drivers in our parking vicinity have brushed up the paint of my car.
Especially the paint bit.
The metallic paints though may look upmarket when coming out of the showroom, for day to day use those colours would be a pain to maintain (shine,gloss,finish)
same goes during patching up for those colours.
With crazy driving around the cities there would be possibility of brush up and mending those paint jobs will be a costly affair.
Personal experience.
Even though i have cared enough to avoid scratches, crazy scooter drivers in our parking vicinity have brushed up the paint of my car.
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Well that's your problem, you need to read them and try to feel the vehicle(though it's impossible), what I know is that I wrote what I thought irrespective of if anyone will like it or not.
Which rating you find doubtful kindly bring it up and I can explain it very well why I gave that number of stars to the car.
+100..
BTW, do you believe that Safari is a better off-roader than Fortuner??
IF yes, then HOW??
@vipul ,
Maybe you have see many paint qualities better then on storme I have not . And it's not just me everybody on the forum are reporting it that they liked it and found it amazing ( here I suppose all benchmark it with current safari and Scorpio ) .
So overall which is a better car in your subjective opinion Scorpio or storme or xuv ? Don't go in this is good in that and this is better in that like you have been doing just answer point zero .
I read your review manytimes yet iam not able to figure out what is your verdict on storme because your review and later your post seem at times quite contradictory I agree here with jaydev and Gurralla .
It's better I wait for ownership reports to finally draw a conclusion how is the car to use and how it performs in a time span of 6-12 months .
But anyway your effort was mindblowing and you did entertain us with your review and controversies a lot
Thanx a lot vipul .
Maybe you have see many paint qualities better then on storme I have not . And it's not just me everybody on the forum are reporting it that they liked it and found it amazing ( here I suppose all benchmark it with current safari and Scorpio ) .
So overall which is a better car in your subjective opinion Scorpio or storme or xuv ? Don't go in this is good in that and this is better in that like you have been doing just answer point zero .
I read your review manytimes yet iam not able to figure out what is your verdict on storme because your review and later your post seem at times quite contradictory I agree here with jaydev and Gurralla .
It's better I wait for ownership reports to finally draw a conclusion how is the car to use and how it performs in a time span of 6-12 months .
But anyway your effort was mindblowing and you did entertain us with your review and controversies a lot
Thanx a lot vipul .
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Superbad ,What kind of logic was that?
Are you trying to deter people from buying good quality colors fearing maintenance?
then our cities would be filled with cars looking like best buses and cab taxis. come one, where are we now !
Are you trying to deter people from buying good quality colors fearing maintenance?
then our cities would be filled with cars looking like best buses and cab taxis. come one, where are we now !
Thanks for your opinion.
I too do feel a lot the same way.
I do hope that members here start talking about the storme in the light it deserves. comparing a 12 lac vehicle to a 25 lac vehicle, imho is waay too out.
BTW: I have posted that i'm not buying the storme for very specific issues. But other than that, if you get blown away by gizmos, than the XUV is any day better than the Fortunner.
Coming to the storme, my opinion is based on what i feel. I don't get carried away with gizmos. I don't look for 0-100 any day. I look for a solid vehicle that's very comfortable to be in, easy to drive, gives a very commanding driving position, and has a very open view. For me the storme ticks all these boxes, as does the X-Trail. In case someone disagrees with me, hey I gotta own it. I gotta take care of it. and its my vehicle at the end of the day.
if I don't like it, whats the point of buying it in the first place Auto-experts view notwithstanding.
My advice to everyone here whose been watching this thread and the previous one:
Pls Visit the showroom in your city if its been launched, if it hasn't been launched in your city and you're travelling to one where it has been, do check it out.
If neither is possible, wait it out. see whats coming your way. Then decide.
And do remember, everyone's view is subjective, auto-expert or otherwise. Its based on what they feel, may be different for you.
my 2 cents
Cheers
Arvi
I too do feel a lot the same way.
I do hope that members here start talking about the storme in the light it deserves. comparing a 12 lac vehicle to a 25 lac vehicle, imho is waay too out.
BTW: I have posted that i'm not buying the storme for very specific issues. But other than that, if you get blown away by gizmos, than the XUV is any day better than the Fortunner.
Coming to the storme, my opinion is based on what i feel. I don't get carried away with gizmos. I don't look for 0-100 any day. I look for a solid vehicle that's very comfortable to be in, easy to drive, gives a very commanding driving position, and has a very open view. For me the storme ticks all these boxes, as does the X-Trail. In case someone disagrees with me, hey I gotta own it. I gotta take care of it. and its my vehicle at the end of the day.
if I don't like it, whats the point of buying it in the first place Auto-experts view notwithstanding.
My advice to everyone here whose been watching this thread and the previous one:
Pls Visit the showroom in your city if its been launched, if it hasn't been launched in your city and you're travelling to one where it has been, do check it out.
If neither is possible, wait it out. see whats coming your way. Then decide.
And do remember, everyone's view is subjective, auto-expert or otherwise. Its based on what they feel, may be different for you.
my 2 cents
Cheers
Arvi
+100 Arvi,
You are right here , best way judge is to go in the showroom , see the car in real , drive the car see if the car serves the purpose for which you want to buy it and then decide .
Test drive reports must be just taken as point of reference and must never be taken as a sole factor in your desicion to buy or not buy the car .
@ jaydev
You said you made your initial impression of the car from my review , I have listed the good and bad parts equally in my review and so has Gurralla , Arvi , mr ranger and others have done . On my part I stand firm on my opinion about the " Subjective " initial impressions I had about the car .
and I agree the reliability of storme as a car has to he judged not by one initial review but long term review from owners if it fails in that account then the car is flop and if its stable and no major show stopper niggles are reported then the car is really worth .
Kindly read my review and ask me any questions if you still have in your mind , readers are very well aware I have not made any tall claims of the car or my testing abilities and whatever I have written , many guys who have seen and driven the car in real have agreed to it .
for your easy reference here is the link of the review kindly read again .
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...reaks-cover-launch-coverage-pg-322-a-122.html
Post number -4874.
You are right here , best way judge is to go in the showroom , see the car in real , drive the car see if the car serves the purpose for which you want to buy it and then decide .
Test drive reports must be just taken as point of reference and must never be taken as a sole factor in your desicion to buy or not buy the car .
@ jaydev
You said you made your initial impression of the car from my review , I have listed the good and bad parts equally in my review and so has Gurralla , Arvi , mr ranger and others have done . On my part I stand firm on my opinion about the " Subjective " initial impressions I had about the car .
and I agree the reliability of storme as a car has to he judged not by one initial review but long term review from owners if it fails in that account then the car is flop and if its stable and no major show stopper niggles are reported then the car is really worth .
Kindly read my review and ask me any questions if you still have in your mind , readers are very well aware I have not made any tall claims of the car or my testing abilities and whatever I have written , many guys who have seen and driven the car in real have agreed to it .
for your easy reference here is the link of the review kindly read again .
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...reaks-cover-launch-coverage-pg-322-a-122.html
Post number -4874.
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So you mean that 'sluggish' SUVs like Safari are not for kids..they are for oldies!!
So you mean that 'sluggish' SUVs like Safari are not for kids..they are for oldies!!
Please understand vehicles Built purpose and then do any reviews, I already appreciated you for your review but I can never appreciate immature thoughts of teenage people who are pretending as AUTO Masters especially in open forums like this.
mods dont get me wrong im not refering any one person here it is a fact of immaturity in AUTO world.
sorry your correction has been declined since PAJERO means PAJERO, Pajero SPORT never added reputation to our cult PAJERO. 2.8 Cc looks under power on papers but it can get down most of the fuel hungry SUVs.
please go through my post again fellow, I mentioned my rate criteria. I hope I never considered aggressive looks are the penultimate factor to be a #1 SUV.
Its your opinion I have nothing to do with that. And I still petty on you that you still stinking with your subjective views and not valued the product as A PRODUCT, Dont you ever try to consider their true blood natures!!!!
You mean a Storme is better than a Fortuner off the road..Eh, though I have heard it for the first time but since you have a LOT of knowledge so I agree..
so I agree..
FORTUNER looks like SUV but its characteristics are still mixed bang of INNOVA and Helix pick-up, hope you experience this one day.
I never considered myself as knowledgeable, I still consider taking opinion from experienced people like many In the forum and My DAD especially
first I dont believe any thing before I actually test it, I strongly believe that it Impossible to make you believe even if I show you in real.
Many time we drove Fortuner, Safari and jeepsy king in our paddy fields of our village before planting crops, Fortuner is the first to get tiered between these three, here im not refering STORME it is Dicor.
Wet or Dry Fortuner let you down first than other two.
I appreciate this, Your post is very much in line with STORME,
Excellent thought.
I was wondering how did this new gen Pajero had even chance to be a million mile chance to be in SUV segment. it SUX,it is a piece of metal plastic trash can.
the previous one was heavy,rugged,masculine and ever lovable .
people are being bieng carried away by what media throws at them and they eat it.
Toyota is hell bent trying to prove that they are selling Prado for 26 lakhs actually it is hilux truck with additional seat.
I was wondering how did this new gen Pajero had even chance to be a million mile chance to be in SUV segment. it SUX,it is a piece of metal plastic trash can.
the previous one was heavy,rugged,masculine and ever lovable .
people are being bieng carried away by what media throws at them and they eat it.
Toyota is hell bent trying to prove that they are selling Prado for 26 lakhs actually it is hilux truck with additional seat.
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