The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [210+ BHP Remap]
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [11K Kms Crossed]
Sylvania sells Osram manufactured bulbs. So I think both are essentially same except for a little bit of lumen difference. My High beam ones are Sylvania and the Low beam ones are Osram producing a decent amount of lumen. However I have changed my Sylvania ones with Osram NBU and see an improvement of around 20-25% as opposed to 110% over standard halogens as claimed by the manufacturer. So I concluded that Sylvania ones were already a marked improvement of around 65% over the standard halogens.
Still 25% of more light counts![[:)]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Smile.gif "Smile [:)]")
. Will change the Low beam ones also.
Sylvania sells Osram manufactured bulbs. So I think both are essentially same except for a little bit of lumen difference. My High beam ones are Sylvania and the Low beam ones are Osram producing a decent amount of lumen. However I have changed my Sylvania ones with Osram NBU and see an improvement of around 20-25% as opposed to 110% over standard halogens as claimed by the manufacturer. So I concluded that Sylvania ones were already a marked improvement of around 65% over the standard halogens.
Still 25% of more light counts
. Will change the Low beam ones also.Attachments
Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [11K Kms Crossed]
My OE bulbs were Sylvania branded and marketed.
I have also changed my low beam to Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited but the low beam continues to be below average. I am planning to install HIDs.
My OE bulbs were Sylvania branded and marketed.
I have also changed my low beam to Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited but the low beam continues to be below average. I am planning to install HIDs.
Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [11K Kms Crossed]
Today changed my low beams to Osram NBU and there was more white and bright light. This one is I suppose satisfactory for now. I even noticed that my light was one of the brightest on the roads.
HIDs... I am sceptical about them. You need to be very careful while choosing the particular product/brand for your vehicle. Don't rely on vendor's claim alone. Am still not going into it unless I am 100% sure and know about its side-effects. They are still evolving...
Today changed my low beams to Osram NBU and there was more white and bright light. This one is I suppose satisfactory for now. I even noticed that my light was one of the brightest on the roads.
HIDs... I am sceptical about them. You need to be very careful while choosing the particular product/brand for your vehicle. Don't rely on vendor's claim alone. Am still not going into it unless I am 100% sure and know about its side-effects. They are still evolving...
Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [11K Kms Crossed]
First tankful-to-tankful FE report: 10.25 km/l with 100% A/C in city. Total km reading in ODO was 630kms. Top speed was 105 km/h. Was stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic 2 or 3 times for about total of 2 hrs. Other times its a mix of traffic jams, regular traffic signals and clear roads. A/C was always ON.
Will post in this thread until I start my ownership review thread
First tankful-to-tankful FE report: 10.25 km/l with 100% A/C in city. Total km reading in ODO was 630kms. Top speed was 105 km/h. Was stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic 2 or 3 times for about total of 2 hrs. Other times its a mix of traffic jams, regular traffic signals and clear roads. A/C was always ON.
Will post in this thread until I start my ownership review thread
Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [11K Kms Crossed]
Wow, looks like Iron Rock has some serious competition now. 10.25kmpl for the first tank of fuel.![[clap]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Clap.gif "Clap [clap]")
Waiting for your purchase decision, delivery & loan experience and the initial ownership report now.
Wow, looks like Iron Rock has some serious competition now. 10.25kmpl for the first tank of fuel.
Waiting for your purchase decision, delivery & loan experience and the initial ownership report now.
Thread Starter
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [11K Kms Crossed]
Right Mitsu comes with Osram but a base spec of the bulb, base spec, means better life however lesser lumen.
Sylvania hived off its units worldwide and their history of aquisitions and mergers/demergers can be the most confusing read ever.
They were in India as well in the 90s if you remember the Laxman Sylvania ads.
Both Osram and Sylvania while sound like indian names have nothing to do with India.
However Havells have the right in India and have bought Sylvania units in many countries.
Can you please share a pic of how white it is, the ones i bought were the highest lumen but not as white as i would want it. its whiter than the oem yellow ones, not white enough though if you know what i mean.
Wow that's not bad at all considering what you described as your usage. I can get the best FE on the sport in city driving only - in highways i find it impossible - driving in 60 in 5th gear forever is not something i can do, i stay in 90-100 range on highways and the sport isn't sweet enough on FE in that range.
Try being on 30-40kmph in 3rd gear in city runs - you'll be surprised how efficient it can be especially with the AC off.
My average of average over 12k kms on full tank basis hovers around 12.4kmpl.
Btw Chetak's master what US accessories are you referring - please share.
Right Mitsu comes with Osram but a base spec of the bulb, base spec, means better life however lesser lumen.
Sylvania sells Osram manufactured bulbs. So I think both are essentially same except for a little bit of lumen difference. My High beam ones are Sylvania and the Low beam ones are Osram producing a decent amount of lumen. However I have changed my Sylvania ones with Osram NBU and see an improvement of around 20-25% as opposed to 110% over standard halogens as claimed by the manufacturer. So I concluded that Sylvania ones were already a marked improvement of around 65% over the standard halogens.
Still 25% of more light counts. Will change the Low beam ones also.
Still 25% of more light counts
. Will change the Low beam ones also.
They were in India as well in the 90s if you remember the Laxman Sylvania ads.
Both Osram and Sylvania while sound like indian names have nothing to do with India.
However Havells have the right in India and have bought Sylvania units in many countries.
Can you please share a pic of how white it is, the ones i bought were the highest lumen but not as white as i would want it. its whiter than the oem yellow ones, not white enough though if you know what i mean.
Wow, looks like Iron Rock has some serious competition now. 10.25kmpl for the first tank of fuel.
Waiting for your purchase decision, delivery & loan experience and the initial ownership report now.
Waiting for your purchase decision, delivery & loan experience and the initial ownership report now.
Try being on 30-40kmph in 3rd gear in city runs - you'll be surprised how efficient it can be especially with the AC off.
My average of average over 12k kms on full tank basis hovers around 12.4kmpl.
Btw Chetak's master what US accessories are you referring - please share.
Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [11K Kms Crossed]
Sure. I have a short trip planned on the 2nd and will take photos of the light then.
A shopping spree in the US offers a plethora of good quality accessories applicable to all vehicles and quite useful too:
1. Exhaust jack.
2. Car Care and polish products.
3. Lubricheck.
4. Dash cameras.
5. HID kits.
6. TPMS units.
7. Camping gear and storage options.
While most of the above maybe available in India, the range, the price and the quality that you get there is difficult to find here.
Sure. I have a short trip planned on the 2nd and will take photos of the light then.
A shopping spree in the US offers a plethora of good quality accessories applicable to all vehicles and quite useful too:
1. Exhaust jack.
2. Car Care and polish products.
3. Lubricheck.
4. Dash cameras.
5. HID kits.
6. TPMS units.
7. Camping gear and storage options.
While most of the above maybe available in India, the range, the price and the quality that you get there is difficult to find here.
Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [11K Kms Crossed]
I find my PS most comfortable at 80kmph (seems it is just starting to accelerate) and I maintained speeds of 80-100 in clear roads. 30-40kmph in 3rd gear seems difficult (I change to 3rd at 30kmph and to 4th at 50kmph) during the initial running-in. Have planned a highway trip of 1000kms in Nov end. Will report the FE then.
I find my PS most comfortable at 80kmph (seems it is just starting to accelerate) and I maintained speeds of 80-100 in clear roads. 30-40kmph in 3rd gear seems difficult (I change to 3rd at 30kmph and to 4th at 50kmph) during the initial running-in. Have planned a highway trip of 1000kms in Nov end. Will report the FE then.
Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [11K Kms Crossed]
Same here. 30-40kmph in 3rd gear indeed seems like lugging the truck. However, I change gears based on the engine feel and rpm. Anything above 1400rpm makes it feel comfortable though acceleration needs a downshift.
My highway speeds are generally 90-110 on two laners and 115-120 on 4/6 laners.
Same here. 30-40kmph in 3rd gear indeed seems like lugging the truck. However, I change gears based on the engine feel and rpm. Anything above 1400rpm makes it feel comfortable though acceleration needs a downshift.
My highway speeds are generally 90-110 on two laners and 115-120 on 4/6 laners.
Thread Starter
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [11K Kms Crossed]
Guys i mean shifting over 30 to third, say 32kmph on a flat tarmac(not inclines or bad roads) - the paj is most efficient and doesn't lug one bit, off course i only use Coco fuel pumps or shell diesel and i am sure you guys are aware how sensitive the Paj is to bad fuel. In inclines, with loads are off-course altogether different ball game and you need to go by engine feel. I am talking about ideal conditions from a FE sweet spot perspective.
There is no lug whatsoever on a flat tarmac when you shift to third gear over 30kmph - i will do some obd based research as well later and share. Off-course during running in period keep some head room but what i said was the from fe sweet spot perspective. I need to do this observation coupled with OBD readings too, will do when i get the next chance.
All said and done if there was one thing i feel the sport needs the most its a 6 speed gearbox!
BTW from the US list you mentioned i did check out quite a few, havent made the move yet, assessing it, somehow i still prefer a high lift jack over a exhaust jack - i think for indian conditions a high lift jack is more appropriate.
Guys i mean shifting over 30 to third, say 32kmph on a flat tarmac(not inclines or bad roads) - the paj is most efficient and doesn't lug one bit, off course i only use Coco fuel pumps or shell diesel and i am sure you guys are aware how sensitive the Paj is to bad fuel. In inclines, with loads are off-course altogether different ball game and you need to go by engine feel. I am talking about ideal conditions from a FE sweet spot perspective.
There is no lug whatsoever on a flat tarmac when you shift to third gear over 30kmph - i will do some obd based research as well later and share. Off-course during running in period keep some head room but what i said was the from fe sweet spot perspective. I need to do this observation coupled with OBD readings too, will do when i get the next chance.
All said and done if there was one thing i feel the sport needs the most its a 6 speed gearbox!
BTW from the US list you mentioned i did check out quite a few, havent made the move yet, assessing it, somehow i still prefer a high lift jack over a exhaust jack - i think for indian conditions a high lift jack is more appropriate.
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [11K Kms Crossed]
It actually isn't as sensitive as it is made out to be. During my trips across the country, I have filled fuel at all kinds of pumps, after doing a basic analysis of the pump, and Chetak hasn't skipped a beat.
In fact, at J&K, I had to fill a tankful of diesel at a pump I knew had very bad fuel. Heck, the diesel looked more like kerosene too.
The fact that I add Sys-D at every alternate tank could be the saviour though.
All said and done if there was one thing i feel the sport needs the most its a 6 speed gearbox!
I am not a deliberate offroader and hence, do not feel the need for a Hi Lift jack at all. A robust exhaust jack will serve my requirements to a "T".
Let me know if you are traveling to the US and have some luggage space. I will order a few things from you.
It actually isn't as sensitive as it is made out to be. During my trips across the country, I have filled fuel at all kinds of pumps, after doing a basic analysis of the pump, and Chetak hasn't skipped a beat.
In fact, at J&K, I had to fill a tankful of diesel at a pump I knew had very bad fuel. Heck, the diesel looked more like kerosene too.
The fact that I add Sys-D at every alternate tank could be the saviour though.
All said and done if there was one thing i feel the sport needs the most its a 6 speed gearbox!
I am not a deliberate offroader and hence, do not feel the need for a Hi Lift jack at all. A robust exhaust jack will serve my requirements to a "T".
Let me know if you are traveling to the US and have some luggage space. I will order a few things from you.
Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [12K Kms Crossed]
Dear IR and others,
I briefly trespassed this thread earlier (post 226). May I do that again please. Pardon me if I am breaking any flow here.
So I had gallantly announced in the mentioned post that I have decided to go in for the Pajero Sport based on the TD, a lot of internet study and so very excellent inputs available here. But as fate would have it, for some reasons I could not buy it that time. When the time came now, I stand confronted with another situation. I just described in on another forum which I am replicating as it is below -
Nooooooo!
Have not bought the Pajero Sport as yet.
Sorry guys. Was away for a few days. A'm back now!
So, I am still to buy the car. When I was last here, I had made the decision, chosen the color (subject to last stage approval by the ladies of the house), was about to write the check for the booking amount when i was caught into something important. So the car buying process went into a short pause.
As I came back and was into clearing the backlog, just 3 days back I got a sudden call from a friend. He asked me if I had finalized the vehicle. I said no. He said he is TDing a ISUZU MU7. I asked him what is that? He said its a SUV in the Fortuner and Pajero Sport bracket. At that point I recalled that someone had in fact mentioned it on this thread. So?
Uninterested, I asked him how is the car. What I heard completely shook me. He said its one of the best he has driven. He went all ga-ga about the car and I was shell shocked. He was saying all this while he was still TDing. Normally you don't say all that in front of the sales person. This guy owns apart from a many inconsequential vehicles, a Scorpio, a Corolla, a Safari 2.2, a fully loaded Fortuner, a Merc M Class and another Merc GL class. So hearing that much praise was absolutely surprising. Anyhow, by the time he hung the phone, he had developed enough curiosity within me.
So, I went to Google Baba for gyan. Surprisingly I did not find enough stuff. But I got to know that the company is doing very slow in terms of creating dealers network and had been selling this rather unknown car only down south. There were no detailed TDs or reviews. Some were there but not very authentic or satisfying.
So I decided to TD it myself and yesterday I went with a lady friend to the newly opened ISUZU showroom in sector 63 in Noida. Wow that's bang next to my office.
When we first looked at the vehicle, my reaction was confused. I could not decide if the vehicle looked good or not so good. And even now I am not sure. The vehicle looked butch for sure. Looked wider and longer than its counterparts.
The interiors were quite laid back. The dash was very disappointing. The plastic was same as in Indica. The wooden finished panel was cheapo. Steering did not even have the now standard buttons to control music. Yeah since this was a top end version, it had the Kenwood 2 din system with bluetooth connectivity and reverse camera. No navigation. Overall it seemed that vehicle had push me back by 10 years.
I decided to drive.
First surprise, this was the first vehicle in which with driver seat fully pushed backwards, i could not reach the pedals well. So much was the leg space there. I had to pull the seat forward. Remind you, I am 6' tall. I felt good. At that point i noticed that the seat adjustments were quite limited. No up down. no tilt. only forward- backwards and back rest tilt. That too manual. Despite that, for me, the sitting was very comfy in all respects.
As soon as i started driving, I was very pleasantly surprised. The car had a VERY powerful and well refined engine. I am no expert in this matters guys, but it just felt VERY GOOD! Car drove like a beauty. Cabin noise was minimum and so were the vibrations. Hardly any! I could drive from 40 upwards in the 5th gear. I could drive at quite low speed and turn 90 degrees in the 3rd gear. I felt power at all points and at all speeds. Body roll was quite low for me. Braking was EXCELLENT. And so was the overall ride. I off- roaded a bit and had no complaints. The suspensions felt terrific. I crossed all kind of landscape with minimum botheration to the passengers inside. My impression - if I may - without having any technical expertise in this field - that this car drove better than both the PS and the Fortuner. It was actually VERY satisfying, to say the least.
In terms of the second row seats - it enjoys just mind boggling leg space. It was like siting on a recliner. With movable second row seating and adjustable back rests, I experienced amazing comfort. It was like this is what I wanted in a car all this while. The drive guys - was sheer comfort here. Also seemed that the third row seats are also better placed and tad more comfortable than counterparts. Its just an impression - i never sat in that seat in any of the cars and that's why cant say for sure. In nutshell - This is apart from the drive itself, this is the another best USP of this vehicle.
So I got confused. This car seemed to have much better comfort and a better drive and ride quality that its counterparts. It looked a Butch. Still not great in looks. The interiors are poor. Does not come in 4x4. Does not have great style and flair. PS? or MU7? Phew...not again!
One thing I wish to submit here. I know my impressions of such things can often get exaggerated by overflowing emotions if I like or dislike something. If I like something - I start liking it a bit too much and tend to overlook the negatives and vice versa. Often unless i TD 2 vehicles at the same instance, I tend to forget which felt better. Meaning, my impressions can be all together incorrect also.
Now here I need help. I could not find any direct comparison of a MU7 with a Fortuner or a Pajero Sport. I even could not find any detailed pragmatic TD. Help me with some links if you may please.
Any and all inputs are requested and welcome.
Also, I want to ask if our PS folks - Anshuman and others have TDed this vehicle? What is their take? If not, may I urge you to kindly do so. I think it very helpful for the forum as well as interesting for yourselves.
Anyhow, I am not buying unless I get enough inputs from you folks what is your knowledge and experience on this.
Its all yours at this point. Looking forward eagerly.
Needless to say - I need your so very valuable inputs please.
Thanks.
Dear IR and others,
I briefly trespassed this thread earlier (post 226). May I do that again please. Pardon me if I am breaking any flow here.
So I had gallantly announced in the mentioned post that I have decided to go in for the Pajero Sport based on the TD, a lot of internet study and so very excellent inputs available here. But as fate would have it, for some reasons I could not buy it that time. When the time came now, I stand confronted with another situation. I just described in on another forum which I am replicating as it is below -
Nooooooo!
Have not bought the Pajero Sport as yet.
Sorry guys. Was away for a few days. A'm back now!
So, I am still to buy the car. When I was last here, I had made the decision, chosen the color (subject to last stage approval by the ladies of the house), was about to write the check for the booking amount when i was caught into something important. So the car buying process went into a short pause.
As I came back and was into clearing the backlog, just 3 days back I got a sudden call from a friend. He asked me if I had finalized the vehicle. I said no. He said he is TDing a ISUZU MU7. I asked him what is that? He said its a SUV in the Fortuner and Pajero Sport bracket. At that point I recalled that someone had in fact mentioned it on this thread. So?
Uninterested, I asked him how is the car. What I heard completely shook me. He said its one of the best he has driven. He went all ga-ga about the car and I was shell shocked. He was saying all this while he was still TDing. Normally you don't say all that in front of the sales person. This guy owns apart from a many inconsequential vehicles, a Scorpio, a Corolla, a Safari 2.2, a fully loaded Fortuner, a Merc M Class and another Merc GL class. So hearing that much praise was absolutely surprising. Anyhow, by the time he hung the phone, he had developed enough curiosity within me.
So, I went to Google Baba for gyan. Surprisingly I did not find enough stuff. But I got to know that the company is doing very slow in terms of creating dealers network and had been selling this rather unknown car only down south. There were no detailed TDs or reviews. Some were there but not very authentic or satisfying.
So I decided to TD it myself and yesterday I went with a lady friend to the newly opened ISUZU showroom in sector 63 in Noida. Wow that's bang next to my office.
When we first looked at the vehicle, my reaction was confused. I could not decide if the vehicle looked good or not so good. And even now I am not sure. The vehicle looked butch for sure. Looked wider and longer than its counterparts.
The interiors were quite laid back. The dash was very disappointing. The plastic was same as in Indica. The wooden finished panel was cheapo. Steering did not even have the now standard buttons to control music. Yeah since this was a top end version, it had the Kenwood 2 din system with bluetooth connectivity and reverse camera. No navigation. Overall it seemed that vehicle had push me back by 10 years.
I decided to drive.
First surprise, this was the first vehicle in which with driver seat fully pushed backwards, i could not reach the pedals well. So much was the leg space there. I had to pull the seat forward. Remind you, I am 6' tall. I felt good. At that point i noticed that the seat adjustments were quite limited. No up down. no tilt. only forward- backwards and back rest tilt. That too manual. Despite that, for me, the sitting was very comfy in all respects.
As soon as i started driving, I was very pleasantly surprised. The car had a VERY powerful and well refined engine. I am no expert in this matters guys, but it just felt VERY GOOD! Car drove like a beauty. Cabin noise was minimum and so were the vibrations. Hardly any! I could drive from 40 upwards in the 5th gear. I could drive at quite low speed and turn 90 degrees in the 3rd gear. I felt power at all points and at all speeds. Body roll was quite low for me. Braking was EXCELLENT. And so was the overall ride. I off- roaded a bit and had no complaints. The suspensions felt terrific. I crossed all kind of landscape with minimum botheration to the passengers inside. My impression - if I may - without having any technical expertise in this field - that this car drove better than both the PS and the Fortuner. It was actually VERY satisfying, to say the least.
In terms of the second row seats - it enjoys just mind boggling leg space. It was like siting on a recliner. With movable second row seating and adjustable back rests, I experienced amazing comfort. It was like this is what I wanted in a car all this while. The drive guys - was sheer comfort here. Also seemed that the third row seats are also better placed and tad more comfortable than counterparts. Its just an impression - i never sat in that seat in any of the cars and that's why cant say for sure. In nutshell - This is apart from the drive itself, this is the another best USP of this vehicle.
So I got confused. This car seemed to have much better comfort and a better drive and ride quality that its counterparts. It looked a Butch. Still not great in looks. The interiors are poor. Does not come in 4x4. Does not have great style and flair. PS? or MU7? Phew...not again!
One thing I wish to submit here. I know my impressions of such things can often get exaggerated by overflowing emotions if I like or dislike something. If I like something - I start liking it a bit too much and tend to overlook the negatives and vice versa. Often unless i TD 2 vehicles at the same instance, I tend to forget which felt better. Meaning, my impressions can be all together incorrect also.
Now here I need help. I could not find any direct comparison of a MU7 with a Fortuner or a Pajero Sport. I even could not find any detailed pragmatic TD. Help me with some links if you may please.
Any and all inputs are requested and welcome.
Also, I want to ask if our PS folks - Anshuman and others have TDed this vehicle? What is their take? If not, may I urge you to kindly do so. I think it very helpful for the forum as well as interesting for yourselves.
Anyhow, I am not buying unless I get enough inputs from you folks what is your knowledge and experience on this.
Its all yours at this point. Looking forward eagerly.
Needless to say - I need your so very valuable inputs please.
Thanks.
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Re: The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [12K Kms Crossed]
Searched through the web and found (as per reviews) that MU7 comes close to the Fortuner (no comparison with PS) in two areas: Ride quality/handling and Engine response and that too at par (and not better). But its a huge 1 foot longer and with a turning radius of 6.2m will make it difficult to drive in the city. MU7 does not come in 4x4 version too. This can be another downside to it.
You better get a TD of PS again. Both TDs back to back will help. If still not convinced take longer TDs again. Finalize on one only when your heart is convinced. I took a TD of PS for 30km, then Fortuner for 30km and then again PS for 30km to finally decide on the PS.
Searched through the web and found (as per reviews) that MU7 comes close to the Fortuner (no comparison with PS) in two areas: Ride quality/handling and Engine response and that too at par (and not better). But its a huge 1 foot longer and with a turning radius of 6.2m will make it difficult to drive in the city. MU7 does not come in 4x4 version too. This can be another downside to it.
You better get a TD of PS again. Both TDs back to back will help. If still not convinced take longer TDs again. Finalize on one only when your heart is convinced. I took a TD of PS for 30km, then Fortuner for 30km and then again PS for 30km to finally decide on the PS.
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