The Crusader: New Member in the Family, the 4th Gen Honda City!

[Rollerdude]

Hello,

You can go for Muc-off Übershine Luxury Car Shampoo. I'm using it past one year and its excellent and only 50% I have used. Not that others are bad but I found this pretty good and efficient.
Only 10ml of shampoo is required to dilate with 6-7 liters of water. It is eco-friendly, safe on any materials and leaves spot free finish.

One of member in Gear heads forum has made a nice review of the product but I'm not allowed to share links to that site. You can search for it though.

btw; I bought the product from IAS (Link) and it is also available in local stores in my city.

This is for weekly washes only and for middle of week washing, Prokear's products are very efficient, time saving and eco-friendly again.

You can either go for Proklear's RAW Rinseless for mild cleaning or Proklear's RAW Xtreme Rinseless for better cleaning. Dilation ratio is 5ml RAW into 500 ltr of water, in a spray bottle. Spray into the body, wait few sec and wipe with a dump micro fiber cloth. Its Rinseless so you don't need liters of water. Just a spray bottle and few micro fiber cloths. Seller gives those for free with the product!

They also have products for windshield cleaning and treatment. The seller is a member in gear heads forum so you can find more info there and he sells products in ebay, shopclues and etc.

Hope I have helped to some degrees to clean and maintain your glorious car.

Thanks...
Best Regards

I was also thinking of going for the Muc-off. But now I am thinking to go for the Proklear one. Will Pro-klear one remove the mud spots and dirt and other stains due to driving in rains? In the video, the man cleaned the dirt that can be easily cleaned using a Jopasu Duster. Will Proclear able to clean the tough mud and road grime stains and sport just by spraying and letting it stay on it. Also, on shopclues there is no mention of free micro-fibre towels along with the product. Are you sure the seller gives it free? Please reply fast.

 

[harry10]

I am getting muc-off 1lt from okloot.com at0 Rs.650, Sonax is costing something about 350 at snapdeal for 1lt, 3M car wash shampoo for rs.445 and meguiar's is costing Rs 570 for 500ml. Which one should I go for? Also, leaving the car to dry results in water marks. Will using these shampoos and then leaving to dry won't cause water marks? If no, then what should I use to dry the car?

Get the muc off and follow the points Cracing mentioned. I use only 5ml in a bucket of water every time its washed. You need to get both Muc off and Proklear as proklear is a rinseless and waterless wash which you need to do on regular basis and a proper 2 bucket wash with muc off once in 10 days.

In fact my duration for 2 bucket wash has increased to once in 2 weeks as Jopasu duster and Proklear xtreme spray cleaning maintains the car well.

For drying the car get a Dc basics dry towel. Its large and can dry two cars at one time.

P.S- Proklear is only for maintaining. For a car dirty in mud and rainy conditions a proper wash is required.

 

[CRACING]

I was also thinking of going for the Muc-off. But now I am thinking to go for the Proklear one. Will Pro-klear one remove the mud spots and dirt and other stains due to driving in rains? In the video, the man cleaned the dirt that can be easily cleaned using a Jopasu Duster. Will Proclear able to clean the tough mud and road grime stains and sport just by spraying and letting it stay on it. Also, on shopclues there is no mention of free micro-fibre towels along with the product. Are you sure the seller gives it free? Please reply fast.

Sorry for late reply bro, its weekend and I had gone outside.

As name says, both are different and one cannot be replacement to other. Proklear RAW is a rinseless product which is only used for light to medium dust and can also be used to clean stain spots with high dilation as well as clay lube.

But in case of heavy dust, using of shampoo is better. Thats why I said, shampoo wash for weekends for perfect cleaning and rinseless is when you need quick cleaning.

I have recently bought RAW Xtream from shopclues and the seller has given two MF cloths and one spray bottle. May be seller has stopped the offer for RAW only but you ask for the seller on Gear Heads forum.

p.s Before my car to used get very dusty after a day of cleaning but after using RAW, the car attracts less dust for 2 - 3 days. I think RAW and RAW Xtream forms a layer over the body which doesn't attract dust and Jopasu Duster can be used with no worries about swirls.

 

[Rollerdude]

Get the muc off and follow the points Cracing mentioned. I use only 5ml in a bucket of water every time its washed. You need to get both Muc off and Proklear as proklear is a rinseless and waterless wash which you need to do on regular basis and a proper 2 bucket wash with muc off once in 10 days.

In fact my duration for 2 bucket wash has increased to once in 2 weeks as Jopasu duster and Proklear xtreme spray cleaning maintains the car well.

For drying the car get a Dc basics dry towel. Its large and can dry two cars at one time.

P.S- Proklear is only for maintaining. For a car dirty in mud and rainy conditions a proper wash is required.

Thanks a lot. For now, I am only going for Proklear RAW rinseless wash as none of my family members are agreeing to buy muc-off as well. Their reason - I am too lazy for washing the car and muc-off will be only allowed to buy if I am consistent in washing it with ProKlear. I am still confused whether to buy the mild one or the Xtreme one. Our car goes out of the garage not very often and it is usually the bottom panels that get dirty.

 

[CRACING]

Thanks a lot. For now, I am only going for Proklear RAW rinseless wash as none of my family members are agreeing to buy muc-off as well. Their reason - I am too lazy for washing the car and muc-off will be only allowed to buy if I am consistent in washing it with ProKlear. I am still confused whether to buy the mild one or the Xtreme one. Our car goes out of the garage not very often and it is usually the bottom panels that get dirty.

If your car exposes to bird drops, strong stains or you do clay cleaning before polishing/waxing then Xtreme is good choice but for mild dust and frequent cleaning, RAW is effective and efficient.

But you wanna use only one doesn't look good to me. I suggest you to for go for 500ml of Muc-off shampoo + RAW (Not Xtream). One of seller in ebay has listed 500ml Muc-off shampoo for cheap price here + RAW for Rs. 300, Total Rs. 735. Find some discount coupons and you can save near 100 Rs!

 

[Rollerdude]

If your car exposes to bird drops, strong stains or you do clay cleaning before polishing/waxing then Xtreme is good choice but for mild dust and frequent cleaning, RAW is effective and efficient.

But you wanna use only one doesn't look good to me. I suggest you to for go for 500ml of Muc-off shampoo + RAW (Not Xtream). One of seller in ebay has listed 500ml Muc-off shampoo for cheap price here + RAW for Rs. 300, Total Rs. 735. Find some discount coupons and you can save near 100 Rs!

Thanks a lot for finding the links and helping me out! I Think I will go by your advise get the both of them still I think that the Xtreme should be enough for me as we live in a colony that as quite dirt free and whenever we take the car out to any nearby city it gets dirty with road tar and some dust! Now, one major problem is that the seller is not delivering Proklear at my location so I need to get it delivered at some other place(at any friend's or relatives) and I am not a member of gear head. Today I registered and posted in the Xtreme thread but it first requires moderation and I don't know how much tiem they will take for the moderation since I had posted in the evening itself!

 

[CRACING]

Thanks a lot for finding the links and helping me out! I Think I will go by your advise get the both of them still I think that the Xtreme should be enough for me as we live in a colony that as quite dirt free and whenever we take the car out to any nearby city it gets dirty with road tar and some dust!

Well, if you believe only rinseless is enough then you can buy only that product for now and see how it helps. After all both sellers are different and you won't save anything on shipping if ordered both.

Now, one major problem is that the seller is not delivering Proklear at my location so I need to get it delivered at some other place(at any friend's or relatives)

Do you mean the online shopping sites or the seller itself?

I am not a member of gear head. Today I registered and posted in the Xtreme thread but it first requires moderation and I don't know how much time they will take for the moderation since I had posted in the evening itself!

Don't know but I hope they will do fast. Are new members allowed to send PM atleast?

 

[Rollerdude]

Do you mean the online shopping sites or the seller itself?
Don't know but I hope they will do fast. Are new members allowed to send PM atleast?

I meant the seller itself. I was ordering from Shopclues.com and the seller was not shipping no my address. However, I am now ordering at an alternative address. Btw, no idea about PM on gear heads. I am going for both RAW Xtreme Rinseless (not RAW only as free MF cloth and sprayer was written only on RAW Xtreme and not on RAW) as well as the muc-off shampoo from the link that you had given me.
Can you do me a favour? I will give you the order number, can you please write to the seller at gear heads to not forget sending the MF cloth and sprayer since my account has not been moderated yet?

 

[Rollerdude]

Here is the order number - #20783407. I will be very grateful of you!

 

[CRACING]

I meant the seller itself. I was ordering from Shopclues.com and the seller was not shipping no my address.

I think its not the seller but the shopclues, it doesn't have record of your pincode or blacklist.

I am going for both RAW Xtreme Rinseless (not RAW only as free MF cloth and sprayer was written only on RAW Xtreme and not on RAW) as well as the muc-off shampoo from the link that you had given me.
Can you do me a favour? I will give you the order number, can you please write to the seller at gear heads to not forget sending the MF cloth and sprayer since my account has not been moderated yet?

Here is the order number - #20783407. I will be very grateful of you!

Ok, glad to hear and don't forgot to post your experience with those products.

Also don't worry about free gifts. Seller will send them for sure. I have also reminded to the seller on Gear Heads forum thread, as you requested.

Thanks...
Best Regards

 

[Rollerdude]

Finally got Proklear RAW Xtreme Rinseless/Waterless Wash go delivered a couple of days back. Yesterday, Crusader returned from a 300kms trip and the lower front bumper was quite dirty apart from dust on glasses. Used the Jopasu Duster to clear the dust from the car first and used 5ml/500ml water Dilution ratio of RAW Xtreme thereafter. I won't describe the results to be very extraordinary sort of but it was just about okay! Though the car did shine like it was when it came from the showroom but then my car is quite new and still has the showroom shine. Also tried on my Matiz (windshield and the bonnet) which has always received just a water wash (without any wax, shampoo etc.) and since the coming home of the crusader, has been washed only by rains. The bonnet did shine like anything but the bird droppings and the yellow spots left behind by smaller flying insects was quite hard to remove. RAW Xtreme is quite effective nevertheless. Will try a higher dilution ratio next time. Sorry no photos for you folks now as i forgot to clikc any, will definitely post some the next time.

 

[CRACING]

@Rollerdude

Strange to hear the result was upto okay only but may be your car was almost clean And of course its not a wax or polish to make more shine instead it makes dull if not buffed correctly. It also protects from attracting dust but rain or water will ease the protection.

For stronger stains, you will indeed need more dilution ratio and also let the stain dissolve.

btw; Don't use RAW for windshield, it makes it dull and buffing won't clean 100%. Spraying some water didn't helped much either. Colin helps to some degrees but I hear its harmful for paint and plastic if used frequently. Now I have bought Proklear's WWC and I'm happy with it. It cleans very well and no hazes glass nor harmful chemicals.

 

[Rollerdude]

lol!!! I too think my car was almost clean!! That Jopasu works quite efficiently! The remaining stains were from bird droppings or from insects due to travelling at night and so I think a higher dilution may be required. Will also leave it for sometime the next time to let 'em dissolve. Yeah, my Matiz's bonnet did shine. Well, on the bottle RAW, it was written that we can use it anywhere. I also have a bottle of Waxpol Glass cleaner, will use it to clean the windshield and glasses the next time.

 

[CRACING]

lol!!! I too think my car was almost clean!! That Jopasu works quite efficiently! The remaining stains were from bird droppings or from insects due to travelling at night and so I think a higher dilution may be required. Will also leave it for sometime the next time to let 'em dissolve. Yeah, my Matiz's bonnet did shine.

I never used the RAW for heavy dust accumulated car surface, I feel it will scratch the car so I use car shampoo (i.e muc off) instead and it doesn't require much effort to clean stains as it gets soaked usually.

Well, on the bottle RAW, it was written that we can use it anywhere. I also have a bottle of Waxpol Glass cleaner, will use it to clean the windshield and glasses the next time.

For me it wasn't good for windshield. It cleans but doesn't leave spot free finish instead it makes little haze.

Yep most of glass cleaners work great but I always like eco friendly stuff.

btw; do you polish and wax your car? if so which products do you use?

 

[Rollerdude]

Yep most of glass cleaners work great but I always like eco friendly stuff.

btw; do you polish and wax your car? if so which products do you use?

No, no waxing and polishing. I have heard that polishing decreases the paint layer each time you polish so it goes right out of the window. As for waxing, I am too lazy a creature to wax the entire car! As of now, I use only Jopasu Duster to clean dirt whenever I take him out and if the car is very dirty(which is rarely a case - mostly the Jopasu does the job for me as my car rarely even dirty enough to require a proper wash) I just simply wash the car with water and have thought to follow up with RAW Xtreme.