Tata Zest vs Honda Amaze vs Maruti Dzire vs Hyundai Xcent vs Ford Figo Sedan

[DJ bro]

I guess something is going wrong with the reviewers recently.
Atleast most of us here would definitely agree that the Zest is the overall better car than the Dzire.
Coming to the Comparison between the Zest F-tronic and Dzire diesel AMT, I find the Zest to be the better here as well. (Because it is the better quality, looking and spacious VFM car here already)
But Overdrive and CarDekho seem to be crowning the Dzire, despite they themselves saying that the Zest has issues only in the CUP-HOLDERS department.
Is it only me who can't understand the logic behind these reviewers? or are the reviews actually biased?

 

[ksdr]

I guess something is going wrong with the reviewers recently.
Atleast most of us here would definitely agree that the Zest is the overall better car than the Dzire.
Coming to the Comparison between the Zest F-tronic and Dzire diesel AMT, I find the Zest to be the better here as well. (Because it is the better quality, looking and spacious VFM car here already)
But Overdrive and CarDekho seem to be crowning the Dzire, despite they themselves saying that the Zest has issues only in the CUP-HOLDERS department.
Is it only me who can't understand the logic behind these reviewers? or are the reviews actually biased?

I am with you on this have already commented on the Car Dekho you tube channel questioning them exactly what you mentioned. If they want to demote Tata to second position in all the comparisons just on the basis of no of after sales service centers then no other manufacturer can beat Maruti on that aspect. So in any compros involving Maruti cars it will be a forgone conclusion that they will be the winner on the basis of no service centres so there is need for comparisons if a Maruti product is involved, its a foregone conclusion. They will win irrespective of having poorer NVH, cramped seats and less boot space too.
My argument is if the TATA product is better then declare it the winner without fear that the big M or H PR bosses will be unhappy.
If people here are not convinced how auto journalists are manipulated see the following video.

https://youtu.be/wT_PR2LQ79k

 

[swadesh]

Wow, that's quite a detailed / heated discussion on Zest Vs Dzire/Amaze. Good to read all this information and Reviews ! But why am i missing the Xcent here? Xcent doesn't seems to be talked about in any of the reviews here for a while now ? Any specific reason to leave it out ? As when ever Dzire/Amaze/Zest are talked about, Xcent usually features there.

 

[swadesh]

Where are the Compares ? Have been waiting for them, let's see how's the market position these days.

 

[Carma]

The TATA zest gets many awards and wins many polls. But the Dzire simply walks away with the numbers month after month.
What does this mean?
Indians do not want good cars?
Or they are willing to live with ordinary cars if they are from Maruti Suzuki?
Or they wont buy excellent cars if they are made by TATA?

 

[swadesh]

The TATA zest gets many awards and wins many polls. But the Dzire simply walks away with the numbers month after month.
What does this mean?
Indians do not want good cars?
Or they are willing to live with ordinary cars if they are from Maruti Suzuki?
Or they wont buy excellent cars if they are made by TATA?

People take Maruti as a very stable brand, with more than required Service centers, and ease of getting spares ! . Once i heard from my relative in remote village - " any problem with maruti, even my Pan wala can open and repair " . Though it was just a Joke, but that's the Irony. Honda/Hyundai/Tata are gaining pace, but not fast enough to catch Maruti.
We usually don't hear problems/faults with Maruti Cars, they are easy on maintenance & repairs, and give good resale value.
I don't think that there is any straight answer to your Question/doubt. It's a valid one, but not easy to answer.

 

[Carma]

People take Maruti as a very stable brand, with more than required Service centers, and ease of getting spares ! .

This was relevant in the era of old ambassador, premier padminis etc.
Today's cars are more reliable and do not need weekly engine service like ambassadors.
I have an eight year old Chevy spark and do not regret buying it instead of a Maruti.
In urban areas, there are a lot of multi brand car garages which are able to do normal service of most cars.
With the present generation of car owners changing cars more frequently, reliability issues are no longer a problem.
With many car companies now offering spare parts over the counter, one can get any car serviced at any garage in town.
But even then, Indian car buyers are not willing to buy a car which they like.
Instead they have to buy what everyone else likes.

 

[dr_vm]

The TATA zest gets many awards and wins many polls. But the Dzire simply walks away with the numbers month after month.
What does this mean?
Indians do not want good cars?
Or they are willing to live with ordinary cars if they are from Maruti Suzuki?
Or they wont buy excellent cars if they are made by TATA?

Well ;its a bit complicated you see.Many first time buyers bought the 1st generation indica with a lot of pride.They had their fingers burnt and swore to themselves that they will never touch a TATA again. Truth told the equivalant maruti 800 was far more robust and mechanically stronger.Now the word of mouth spread ;even to the second generation of buyers.Now thats a difficult thing to erase.In India ;buying a car is to many of us a big thing; some people would have had to put their lifes savings to buy their pride of joy.Thats where it hurts.What we didn't realise was that here was a nascent company trying something that many thought just could not be done. Being an Aria owner myself;what i would suggest them is to have a technical center in Japan as well in addition to TURIN and UK.

There is something to Japanese engineering that makes their cars so reliable.If you doubt me;check out how a second hand car has to be spotlessly repaired for it to be saleable in Japan.Our chalta hai attitude simply doesn't cut ice there. I still remember just after the indica was released ; as a college kid ;i heard someone ask the owner ,Are there any issues with the car? To which the disgruntled owner;his face turning red retorted back; ..Ask me what issues it doesnt have?But Tata motors have come a long way from then;but hear me out TATA motors;you cant learn reliability from jaguar land rover.

 

[surya3103]

Can I wait for Ameo or take zest...

 

[ajay kumar]

Re: Feedback and Suggestions For NGTAI

I am intending to buy a sedan. Which is better honda amaze or maruti desire. Which one is fuel efficient?

 

[Akash1886]

I am intending to buy a sedan. Which is better honda amaze or maruti desire. Which one is fuel efficient?

Hi Ajay. If you are looking to buy a Diesel Dzire or Amaze then would suggest you to opt for Dzire. Reason is, the 1.3 DDIS is better in refinement than 1.5 I-dtec. In terms of service network, Maruti Suzuki wins and in near future the facelift of Maruti Dzire is also coming. Other than that there are cars like Aspire and Ameo too which are good in terms of performance and safety but lack rear seat comfort. The rear seat of Amaze still feels better than Aspire and AMEO. In case you want a petrol one then I would say consider Aspire and Tigor.

Regards

Akash

 

[kkn13]

Also 1.3 MJD gives pretty good mileage
We had multiple cars in my family with the same engine and even with a heavy foot(more accelerator) and car full of people, the least its ever given me is 17kmpl
Max is easily 22-25kmpl+ with AC etc
Unfortunately I could never calculate the exact top end mileage since the MID on our cars never had FE counter
17kmpl was calculated after I filled the tank up to full in my Ritz and went a bit overboard showing off to someone about torque of the car etc and the car was full of people during a road trip on the highway and alot of city traffic in between too in Mumbai and Pune
By the end of the trip, I calculated using odometer and the fuel low light had just come on. Came up to 17-18kmpl worst case which was a surprise given the kind of driving and driving conditions it went through

Just keep in mind , this engine has very different gear ratios in every car and doesnt like to be revved beyond turbo band (not a bad thing at all, its just very different for those used to petrol cars and certain other diesel engines).
The sweet spot of this car is between 1700-4000rpm mark for best performance in 2nd and 3rd gear.
1st gear is merely for moving from standstill, upshift early in 1st gear and then continue revving in 2nd gear till 3500rpm and then shift, repeat for 3rd and 4th gear. This way you get best balance.
People make the mistake of revving it in 1st gear and to higher rpm etc instead of the method I posted above. So try this out in your TD of any 1.3 MJD car

1.3 MJD has oodles of low end torque and in traffic, no need to rev the engine at all, just use clutch and brake to control, it has that much torque to continue in traffic. Something I find annoying in the 1.5 IVTEC in my City.

Engine is fairly robust and the only issues Ive ever faced with my Ritz are AC compressor, Suspension and starter